BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 270

[TDKR1977]

When movie apps and sites such as Flixter and others use it to show the quality of the movie.

When a movie comes out, if I want to promote it to convince my family and friends to go see it, the RT score comes in handy.

RT CAN be useful. But that's tons of movies with **** scores that I love.

 

[Dninx64]

High Rt score = Ammo for fanboy dick measuring contests.

if thats the case if Bvs does higher % than MCU 2nd movie, then what?
celebrate?

Once Avengers came out everyone loved MCU(Iron Man did well to start it, but Avengers is when MCU exploded)
Force Awakens was a New Hope remix which played into notsalgia(Like TFA by the way)

As somebody already said If I like the move and make a lot of money where WB says we're making more, than to me BvS is a success.

A lot of discussing and planning has gone into BvS and DCEU and everyone involved are going to do their absolute best to make sure it succeeds.

Removing Zack means to start over(Ben is only on board because of Zack)
Everyone a part of Zack's crew would leave if Zack left.

 

[BH/HHH]

yeah man i got my driving test on the 17th if i pass im going to drive down to London for the premier

Best of luck mate

I'm currently learning to drive myself

 

[vantheman77]

I think Superman will start off rag dolling Batman. Then Batman will start to get the upper hand, to the point that he almost kills Superman. But then ultimately superman realizes he has to try and gets the win.

I just don't think kryptonite will be that powerful. If it is like the comics, it would be pretty dangerous in this supposedly realistic world. Like I said, when the rest of the world finds out about it, Superman would be dead, guaranteed.

I can see this being how the fight between Superman and Batman will most likely played out.

Also don't forget that both Lois Lane and Lex Luthor are also there at the fight between Superman and Batman.

 

[RF20Lennon]

When movie apps and sites such as Flixter and others use it to show the quality of the movie.

When a movie comes out, if I want to promote it to convince my family and friends to go see it, the RT score comes in handy.

This and the fact that it's a good assessment of quality as well. Speaking from personal experience, I usually follow the tomato meter and I'm talking about films I've attended in advanced screenings before the meter starts ticking. There have been only a handful of "rotten" films I have actually liked. So, this sort of gauges how much I and the audiences will respond to it. They're not always right of course and any individual can maintain their opinion. But it does affect the audience going into the theaters and also a good way to convince people into going as well as battling haters. GA often looks at the score. Hell their slogan is literally --"protecting you from bad movies since 199-something".

I don't want the DCEU to become like the Transformers franchise. Where they keep making them, everyone keeps hating them but they make buttloads.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

RT CAN be useful. But that's tons of movies with **** scores that I love.

Movies can be entertaining and still not highly critically reviewed. Most movies that I enjoyed in my younger days got panned by critics.

 

[jokesonm3]

Main reason RT scores keep getting brought up is because of the fact that most websites out there promote the living hell out of a film's RT score way more than any other reviewing tools, which is a suckish thing to do.

 

[brucebatman]

Best of luck mate

I'm currently learning to drive myself

thanks dude iv already took it once its not that bad i failed on 4 repetitive minors which is very annoying.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

The problem I have with RT is it, along with sites like Metacritic, have made moviegoers lazy about looking at reviews to help them decide whether or not to see a film, people look at the number made from a small pool of critics and quite often don't even bother to read the actual reviews and at least do something that moderately resembles thinking for themselves. And even then, if you're interested in a film, you should see it regardless of RT, think for yourself. RT is popular because it's the easy and lazy reference point to use.

 

[False Prophet]

The dissenting reviews are usually the best ones to read on RT. A lot of the other ones seem to be going with the trend of prior reviews.

The reviews I really can't stand are the lukewarm ones that still end up fresh, and the generally positive ones with a caveat that end up rotten.

 

[RF20Lennon]

The problem I have with RT is it, along with sites like Metacritic, have made moviegoers lazy about looking at reviews to help them decide whether or not to see a film, people look at the number made from a small pool of critics and quite often don't even bother to read the actual reviews and at least do something that moderately resembles thinking for themselves. And even then, if you're interested in a film, you should see it regardless of RT, think for yourself. RT is popular because it's the easy and lazy reference point to use.

But isn't the whole point of reviews to advise GA on whether to see a film or not apart from furthering discussion and debate?

I have a select few critics I put stock in because of their experience and knowledge of film as well as personal tastes. That's how I go about it as well as checking the RT score frequently. But that's just because from personal experience I also tend to have similar issues with films that don't do well on the meter. Not all the time but most of the time.

 

[Bane Cook]

I hate how much power RT has. If we give RT that much power and use it as the end all be all of deciding how good a movie is, then that's taking us down a dangerous path.

If RT has that much power to effect $$$ then there's incentive for it to be abused.

 

[False Prophet]

I miss Ebert so damn much.

 

[Legendver2]

I might be in the minority, but I kind of like the fact that MoS is divisive and sparks conversation in interpretation, perception, and a whole bunch of other things. I mean sure, some other movies get like 90+ RT scores or whatever, but honestly who talks about them anymore. We're 3 years after the release of MoS, and we're STILL debating it. That to me says a lot about the timelessness of MoS, and maybe even BvS.

Don't get me wrong, I love MCU, with TWS being one of my all time favorite cbm's, but let's be real, nobody talks about the Avengers or even AoU, the most recent MCU big release, anymore or even with the same intensity as people talk about MoS. And a majority of the times they are brought up, it's to use as a comparison to how *crap* some people think MoS is. Yea sure, you don't like the film, you hated MoS, but guess what, you're STILL talking about it. I consider that a fan

 

[KillerMcQueen]

But isn't the whole point of reviews to advise GA on whether to see a film or not apart from furthering discussion and debate?

I have a select few critics I put stock in because of their experience and knowledge of film as well as personal tastes. That's how I go about it as well as checking the RT score frequently. But that's just because from personal experience I also tend to have similar issues with films that don't do well on the meter. Not all the time but most of the time.

Yes, advise, they should not straight up make your decision for you, and the critic pool isn't full of critics you always agree with, which is why people should read the reviews to actually understand what people are liking and disliking and if they'd be likely to enjoy it based on that, understanding the content of reviews is important, and people that place any kind of value on the actual RT score don't understand that, if they want help with the decision, read, and understand the reviews, and throw the stupid f***ing RT number in the trash where it belongs.

 

[RF20Lennon]

I miss Ebert so damn much.

Still watch him and Gene go at it on youtube from time to time

 

[teardrop]

I hate how much power RT has. If we give RT that much power and use it as the end all be all of deciding how good a movie is, then that's taking us down a dangerous path.

If RT has that much power to effect $$$ then there's incentive for it to be abused.

I think it's not just RT, it goes for all the self-appointed "representatives of fans." Internet makes publishing and broadcasting so easy and anyone can claim to be a journalist and critic.

there's serious entering barrier for managing a traditional newspaper or broadcasting stations, but virtually none for websites. Clicks are the only thing they need.

 

[RF20Lennon]

Yes, advise, they should not straight up make your decision for you, and the critic pool isn't full of critics you always agree with, which is why people should read the reviews to actually understand what people are liking and disliking and if they'd be likely to enjoy it based on that, understanding the content of reviews is important, and people that place any kind of value on the actual RT score don't understand that, if they want help with the decision, read, and understand the reviews, and throw the stupid f***ing RT number in the trash where it belongs.

Well to be fair the number is not how much they liked something but how many. So if the majority of critics liked something about it then it's worth it. That's how the GA sees it.

 

[Legendver2]

But isn't the whole point of reviews to advise GA on whether to see a film or not apart from furthering discussion and debate?

I have a select few critics I put stock in because of their experience and knowledge of film as well as personal tastes. That's how I go about it as well as checking the RT score frequently. But that's just because from personal experience I also tend to have similar issues with films that don't do well on the meter. Not all the time but most of the time.

I'd imagine RT scores are actually put to use by the GA on smaller films, like romcoms or indies. Films like Avengers, BvS, Transformers, are usually big enough, and enough of an event, to get by regardless of RT, at least during opening weekend, or even the second week if there's not much competition. After that is when RT starts to kick in with the people who haven't seen it will use that and WOM. RT, therefore, doesn't really affect the front loaded box office of OW, but can and will become a factor in terms of determining a films legs after OW.

 

[Enlil]

Hey guys, look what I found in my mailbox !

 

[Dninx64]

Hey guys, look what I found in my mailbox !

nice

 

[Broseph44]

Movies can be entertaining and still not highly critically reviewed. Most movies that I enjoyed in my younger days got panned by critics.

Exactly. This is why to me it is pointless and a waste of time to worry about what critics reviews are, or what they or these sites like RT grade the film. Because there's films praised or rated highly that I dislike. And then there's films that are hated and rated lowly that I love. End of the day I know what I like and love. And I have a pretty good gauge beforehand on what I am going to enjoy.

So that's what matters to me. If this movie scores high on RT or critics love it that's cool. If it scores low and they hate it that's fine too. I'm worried about myself. I think I'm gonna love it, I know what I like. That's all I want

 

[RF20Lennon]

I'd imagine RT scores are actually put to use by the GA on smaller films, like romcoms or indies. Films like Avengers, BvS, Transformers, are usually big enough, and enough of an event, to get by regardless of RT, at least during opening weekend, or even the second week if there's not much competition. After that is when RT starts to kick in with the people who haven't seen it will use that and WOM. RT, therefore, doesn't really affect the front loaded box office of OW, but can and will become a factor in terms of determining a films legs after OW.

You have a point! But word of mouth is very important and today RT is that. Look at Green Lantern. Had a pretty good opening weekend but then had a huge drop off and RT scores were being posted everywhere. Same thing with Fantastic 4. RT killed that movie. MOS could've gotten $750 mill if it wasn't for RT.

It does have a solid impact on the audience.

 

[Jaxon]

RT CAN be useful. But that's tons of movies with **** scores that I love.

RT scores reflect wide appeal because you just need a reviewer to give it 3 out of 5 to be fresh.

It biases to inoffensive movies like Pixar stuff because they're not controversial, don't try to push boundaries across audiences, and are just simply wide appeal movies.

 

[brucebatman]

Hey guys, look what I found in my mailbox !

is that the complete soundtrack?