The Amazing Spider-Man Amazing Spidey Video Game Thread. - - - - - Part 14

[spidermanJLA!~]

Hang them from a light pole, a flag pole, more than one pole at once
Annihilator after multi-subdue

Statue of Liberty has no role in story missions, I suppose that's why
Spider-Man games from Treyarch have the stamp of allowing you to free roam in most areas you have a story mission in, Ellis island in SM2 is a station between Liberty and Manhattan

Good Point.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

Arsenic Candy and their stupid hammers....

I hated the guys with the street signs.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I hated the guys with the street signs.

These are the easiest of the big thugs, any attack can reach them so long as they don't block
If you unlocked the finisher make sure the 6th quick attack is the only one to touch, then a strong attack and it's KO time
Or shoot them up in the air and do the piddle paddle for a fast finish
Blue indicator to step on their signs and hit them with their attacks. I love the blue indicator, that stuff needs to be used again

Yes, and that is what we call having a different opinion. We've discussed that before.
It's what gets this board going.

Ah, no
Saying Mass Effect 2 is boring and not for you is a difference in opinion
What you complain about in Spider-Man 3 is some decent points, and a lot of complaints that do not apply on the game, like most complaints a lot spit on it, that is not different opinion, that's not sticking to true criticism, and with that you ignored it improved a lot over your favorite Spider-Man 2
One of my least favorite complaints you gave it got worse, here's the complaint:
"Broken Continuity" When there is none, I still try to get your point, but it's unfortunately untrue
Now lets talk about the cesspool of broken continuity that is the story of Tobi that you like, or actually seem to find awesome:

Spoiler

Tobi is Obito and he's the weakling to pop out suddenly one year after his death as a deadly member of a deadly organization?
Changing from Zetsu's slave after Deidra's death to being Zetsu's master?

And there's a lot more to that
But of course, knowing my luck you will come to defend your point on both stuff, when from what I see after seeing every review of SM3 and playing the game to completion 37 times to see how embarrassingly most of the complaints that game received are crappier than what they describe the game to be, I recommend you try to relate to where I stand on the game

 

[UltimateWebhead]

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[Jick]

Ah, no
Saying Mass Effect 2 is boring and not for you is a difference in opinion
What you complain about in Spider-Man 3 is some decent points, and a lot of complaints that do not apply on the game, like most complaints a lot spit on it, that is not different opinion, that's not sticking to true criticism, and with that you ignored it improved a lot over your favorite Spider-Man 2.

All of my complaints are opinions. That's what opinion is.
Go to the thread where I'm talking with Spider-Who about it for reference.

One of my least favorite complaints you gave it got worse, here's the complaint:
"Broken Continuity" When there is none, I still try to get your point, but it's unfortunately untrue

Is Scorpion the same from SM1?
No. Broken continuity.

Now lets talk about the cesspool of broken continuity that is the story of Tobi that you like, or actually seem to find awesome:

Spoiler

Tobi is Obito and he's the weakling to pop out suddenly one year after his death as a deadly member of a deadly organization?
Changing from Zetsu's slave after Deidra's death to being Zetsu's master?

Spoiler

Is this post still directed at me? You completely lost me there.

And there's a lot more to that
But of course, knowing my luck you will come to defend your point on both stuff

We already discussed this subject, you know my opinion and I know yours. You're the one bringing this up again. I don't have anything new to say that I already didn't with past posts, so no need to defend it anymore.

What other stuff are you talking about? Tobi? I'm still confused with this 180° change on the subject all of a sudden.

when from what I see after seeing every review of SM3 and playing the game to completion 37 times to see how embarrassingly most of the complaints that game received are crappier than what they describe the game to be, I recommend you try to relate to where I stand on the game

And I recommend you to try to relate to where everyone else stands on the game, even the people who agree with you and like the game. We have different opinions on the game, just that, but you're being disrespectfull with ours, calling it ''crappier than what they describe''.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

@Ultimate: It's beyond personal opinion, it's about fair reviewing

@Jick: You're still missing the big picture, he's the same, only difference is in design
I used Naruto cause it's full of broken continuity, yet you don't have a problem with that, it's comparing what really has broken continuity in a huge dose and you miss and still like, and what does NOT have any and you complain for having
I tried to relate, points that don't apply I can't agree with or take as personal opinion, just cause more people agree on a wrong point doesn't make it a right

Back to TASM game; it's great to see Spider-Man pull a train cart with ease

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

What?

 

[UltimateWebhead]

What?

He's referring to the Iguana mission when you use webbing to pull the train cars.

 

[Jick]

I'd like to see Spidey show some more feats of strenght in the next movie.
Lizard was really powerful, but I felt like Raimi's Spidey could take him down. He was quite strong.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

He's referring to the Iguana mission when you use webbing to pull the train cars.

CO-RR-ECT. GIVE THAT MAN A PRIZE

Couldn't help using a phrase from Spider-Friends

 

[lixdexia]

CO-RR-ECT. GIVE THAT MAN A PRICE

Couldn't help using a phrase from Spider-Friends

$7.50...?

did you mean give that man a prize?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

$7.50...?

did you mean give that man a prize?

DRAGONIT
Yes I did, I meant a prize

 

[Jick]

@Jick: You're still missing the big picture, he's the same, only difference is in design

No, he's a different character than before. He was created again. From someone who played it 37 times, you should've known better.

I used Naruto cause it's full of broken continuity, yet you don't have a problem with that, it's comparing what really has broken continuity in a huge dose and you miss and still like, and what does NOT have any and you complain for having

When did I say I have no problems with Naruto's continuity? I actually wanna know if I did, because I don't remember.
If you go to the Naruto boards, you'll see my discontentment with Tobi's reveal on the penultimate page.
Even so, it's early to judge. We can't compare. SM3 has a story that's already told, so it's easier to point at its mistakes. Naruto's story is still going on, so a lot has yet to be explained. I'll complain about plotholes when I know all of the plot, but that will only happen when the story ends.
Three another questions were answered on the last chapter ([BLACKOUT]Madara knowing Tobi, sharing the same plan and saving him from death[/BLACKOUT].) More are to come.
It's like complaining about the end when we even haven't gotten one, yet.

I tried to relate, points that don't apply I can't agree with or take as personal opinion, just cause more people agree on a wrong point doesn't make it a right

Pointing someone else's opinion on quality as wrong, when such thing is impossible, isn't really trying to relate. I'm not saying that what you think of the game is wrong, but you're doing that to us.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Spoiler

No, he's a different character than before. He was created again. From someone who played it 37 times, you should've known better.

From someone who finished it 37 times, only the design is different
He's still the "you won't take me back"
He's still "I want to be human"
He's still neurotic
The smog laugh stayed
Still jumps from pole to pole to shoot laser from his tail
He had nothing to say his story changed in Spider-Man 1, look at it carefully, only his costume and figure changed
For someone who adores the first movie game you should know he has was left for the taking in that game

When did I say I have no problems with Naruto's continuity? I actually wanna know if I did, because I don't remember.
If you go to the Naruto boards, you'll see my discontentment with Tobi's reveal on the penultimate page.

You still care for it, and Tobi's revelation is one of loads of easy to see mistakes in that story

Even so, it's early to judge. We can't compare. SM3 has a story that's already told, so it's easier to point at its mistakes.

And there's a difference between its mistakes and what is exaggeration of a complaint and doesn't really apply
And you once mentioned SM2 nodding back at Vulture feathers on ESB as an easter egg to show SM2 cared when SM3 ignored everything, but you didn't see easter eggs in SM3 although you said you finished the game once:
Two nods to Mysterio in SM2
Inflated heads in timed arena 9, a throwback to the cheat in the first movie game

Naruto's story is still going on, so a lot has yet to be explained. I'll complain about plotholes when I know all of the plot, but that will only happen when the story ends.
Three another questions were answered on the last chapter ([BLACKOUT]Madara knowing Tobi, sharing the same plan and saving him from death[/BLACKOUT].) More are to come.

Maybe it one tiny thing trying to save face, but it did it wrong, and even before that [blackout]Madar doesn't make sense, he warns his people to kill them eventually to not trust Itachi and mustual mistrust to...[/blackout]

It's like complaining about the end when we even haven't gotten one, yet.

Story is an extravagant mess before reaching the end

Pointing someone else's opinion on quality as wrong, when such thing is impossible, isn't really trying to relate.

First, I did try to relate, face cringing complaint that does not stick as worthy is a mistake in review

I'm not saying that what you think of the game is wrong, but you're doing that to us.

I'm sorry, I don't mean to do it that way, but it received loads of complaints, a lot of the complaints that game received are stuff that apply in the same dose to most games out there, here are a couple of examples, not sticking it to you alone, but other reviews as well

Spoiler

1. Repetitive: No $#%^, that's like 100% of the games out there, and this is one of the most versatile games, one can make its repetition of value and feel it less repetitive. And you know what's even worse in this point of criticism? Many who say this say "Shattered Dimensions is good", or "Web of Shadows is good" or stuff even more repetitive deemed as good
2. Same formula as the open Spider-Man games before it, no change: Come again? There are plenty of good changes, and this game brought stealth and taking photos back, it wasn't there in open world games before it, and SM2 has photo missions, but not you grabbing the camera. And what makes this complaint even worse is this. "GTA IV is an awesome upgrade to Vice City", for some odd reason the things that happen in both games happens in every other GTA game, it's not like long wait changed things to do that much, so what is this?
3. Symbiote has no power: (Oh yeah, this is one of yours.) Rage mode, it's not just for super moves, use it to make attacks stronger, and people in cars fall with half the attacks, it also opens the door to pull bosses up fast
4. Boss fights are you hitting and dodging: If there is any complaint worse than this...almost 100% f the games fights are like that, even fighting games, what sort of complaints is that? You want something special to do? Use the environment, some fights allow that. Harry's fight can be taken everywhere, people who complained about boss fights remember that? No, they remember something like it from inFAMOUS, but this is forgotten from this game
5. Watered Down version of Spider-Man 2: What? You see the upgrades this game did to Spider-Man 2? Or did you just focus on the swing kick and not being able to carry thugs and swing with them? And what's worse is when something says that and ignores a lot of upgrades SM3 did to SM2 then recommend the Wii version of SM3. How the F*** am I supposed to not this?
6. Photo gang ladies doing a beauty show: Take one silly mission and say it's how every mission in the game is? And only this part of that mission is silly, the rest of the missions is you doing whatever Spider-Man & Peter Parker do, but this one is noted and taking as a benchmark and description of the game?
7. Spider-Man is weak: Weak like what? Charged attacks finish fights faster, and this complaint comes from people who like the first movie game, that F***ING $#%^ with thugs much faster than Spider-Man, the hardest boss fight is the guy who murdered Ben Parker, not only is it the hardest boss fight, it is hard even with cheats, and webbing has even worse limit than Peter Parker and quick change Spidey from the PS1 games, less amount of webbing, and finishes really fast even with web refill thrown here and there

And that's just a sample of the amount of wrong complaints Spider-Man 3 the Game received, what am I supposed to agree with? I'm supposed to say that what I played is what people said and what I focused on this much and see exists so obviously doesn't exist just cause people say it doesn't?

What I can agree with is graphics not being next gen, that is one thing of a few that actually stick

Spider-Man 3 the game is the most underrated video game ever, for every decent point of criticism it received 3 or 4 over the top complaints come out, and I'm supposed to agree with reviews like yours?
What's even worse is you say this GOOD game is one of the worst, and yet you like garbage like the one based on the 90s cartoon, and then you said that garbage Web of Shadows is ok, that garbage is OK? That grabage has broken continuity with itself, it starts with Spider-Man looking for MJ then promises her something and she's angry, later you see he made her a promise before he needs to find her and that was directly before the prologue, why is she and Luke angry when they shouldn't be? He didn't break the promise he made right after cutting Wolverine in halves, why need to make another promise and MJ is "You're way over that" in anger? This kind of garbage receives more compliments by more people and SM3 receives some of the worst untrue backlash, complaints that don't apply are so easy to find for some reason, like making a complaint about the sound effect that all it did was sound different, but somehow it made you feel no weight. HOW ON EARTH DID YOU FINISH FIGHTS IF ATTACKS HAVE NO WEIGHT? THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE

 

[Jick]

From someone who finished it 37 times, only the design is different
He's still the "you won't take me back"
He's still "I want to be human"
He's still neurotic
The smog laugh stayed
Still jumps from pole to pole to shoot laser from his tail
He had nothing to say his story changed in Spider-Man 1, look at it carefully, only his costume and figure changed

Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man, compared to Tobey's:
Still shoot webs
Still wore a red and blue suit
Still fought a villain
Still lived with his uncle and aunt
Still regreted not being able to save Ben
Still fought bad guys, and so on.

Are they the same Spider-Man? No. They're different takes on the same character. Like Scorpion was in SM3 when compared to his version in SM1, except that TASM is a new continuty. The games were in their own universe, but the third game broke the segment.

For someone who adores the first movie game you should know he has was left for the taking in that game

No, he wasn't. He ran away and wasn't caught.
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You still care for it, and Tobi's revelation is one of loads of easy to see mistakes in that story

I always cared for it, like I always did for Spidey. I don't know how that adds to your point.
If that's a mistake, that's up to you and what you consider a mistake. I prefer to wait for the explanations to properly judge.

And there's a difference between its mistakes and what is exaggeration of a complaint and doesn't really apply

You're the one exaggerating, because you love to bring this subject up. You love to say that the opinions of the others towards this game is crap, or garbage. I tried to avoid discussing about it, but you keep pressing, you keep poking with a stick. You keep insisting on the same thing over and over again. Look at how my first post in this discussion was talking about my view on the importance of a proper FX as in a response to spidermanJLA!~ feeling that the combat felt muffled. I'm not saying the game is lousy, or lame, and telling him it is unplayable, just stating that particular thing about the sound. But I can't comment anything without having you complaining.

If you don't want to see it, put me on your ignore list. Heck, I like you, you're cool guy, just too annoying regarding some subjects.

Maybe it one tiny thing trying to save face, but it did it wrong, and even before that [blackout]Madar doesn't make sense, he warns his people to kill them eventually to not trust Itachi and mustual mistrust to...[/blackout]

Please, restructure this whole sentence so I can read. It doesn't make any sense.

Story is an extravagant mess before reaching the end

I disagree. If you wanna talk about it, then take it to the Naruto thread and we'll talk there.

First, I did try to relate, face cringing complaint that does not stick as worthy is a mistake in review

You didn't, because when the matter is about SM3, you take it personally. I can say Mass Effect 2 is boring but, when I say the same about SM3, I can't because, according to you, I'm wrong.

I'm sorry, I don't mean to do it that way, but it received loads of complaints, a lot of the complaints that game received are stuff that apply in the same dose to most games out there, here are a couple of examples, not sticking it to you alone, but other reviews as well[/spoiler]

Spoiler

1. Repetitive: No $#%^, that's like 100% of the games out there, and this is one of the most versatile games, one can make its repetition of value and feel it less repetitive. And you know what's even worse in this point of criticism? Many who say this say "Shattered Dimensions is good", or "Web of Shadows is good" or stuff even more repetitive deemed as good
2. Same formula as the open Spider-Man games before it, no change: Come again? There are plenty of good changes, and this game brought stealth and taking photos back, it wasn't there in open world games before it, and SM2 has photo missions, but not you grabbing the camera. And what makes this complaint even worse is this. "GTA IV is an awesome upgrade to Vice City", for some odd reason the things that happen in both games happens in every other GTA game, it's not like long wait changed things to do that much, so what is this?
3. Symbiote has no power: (Oh yeah, this is one of yours.) Rage mode, it's not just for super moves, use it to make attacks stronger, and people in cars fall with half the attacks, it also opens the door to pull bosses up fast
4. Boss fights are you hitting and dodging: If there is any complaint worse than this...almost 100% f the games fights are like that, even fighting games, what sort of complaints is that? You want something special to do? Use the environment, some fights allow that. Harry's fight can be taken everywhere, people who complained about boss fights remember that? No, they remember something like it from inFAMOUS, but this is forgotten from this game
5. Watered Down version of Spider-Man 2: What? You see the upgrades this game did to Spider-Man 2? Or did you just focus on the swing kick and not being able to carry thugs and swing with them? And what's worse is when something says that and ignores a lot of upgrades SM3 did to SM2 then recommend the Wii version of SM3. How the F*** am I supposed to not this?
6. Photo gang ladies doing a beauty show: Take one silly mission and say it's how every mission in the game is? And only this part of that mission is silly, the rest of the missions is you doing whatever Spider-Man & Peter Parker do, but this one is noted and taking as a benchmark and description of the game?
7. Spider-Man is weak: Weak like what? Charged attacks finish fights faster, and this complaint comes from people who like the first movie game, that F***ING $#%^ with thugs much faster than Spider-Man, the hardest boss fight is the guy who murdered Ben Parker, not only is it the hardest boss fight, it is hard even with cheats, and webbing has even worse limit than Peter Parker and quick change Spidey from the PS1 games, less amount of webbing, and finishes really fast even with web refill thrown here and there

And that's just a sample of the amount of wrong complaints Spider-Man 3 the Game received, what am I supposed to agree with? I'm supposed to say that what I played is what people said and what I focused on this much and see exists so obviously doesn't exist just cause people say it doesn't?

What I can agree with is graphics not being next gen, that is one thing of a few that actually stick

Spider-Man 3 the game is the most underrated video game ever, for every decent point of criticism it received 3 or 4 over the top complaints come out, and I'm supposed to agree with reviews like yours?
What's even worse is you say this GOOD game is one of the worst, and yet you like garbage like the one based on the 90s cartoon, and then you said that garbage Web of Shadows is ok, that garbage is OK? That grabage has broken continuity with itself, it starts with Spider-Man looking for MJ then promises her something and she's angry, later you see he made her a promise before he needs to find her and that was directly before the prologue, why is she and Luke angry when they shouldn't be? He didn't break the promise he made right after cutting Wolverine in halves, why need to make another promise and MJ is "You're way over that" in anger? This kind of garbage receives more compliments by more people and SM3 receives some of the worst untrue backlash, complaints that don't apply are so easy to find for some reason, like making a complaint about the sound effect that all it did was sound different, but somehow it made you feel no weight. HOW ON EARTH DID YOU FINISH FIGHTS IF ATTACKS HAVE NO WEIGHT? THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE

This is how much you bring the same thing up over and over again, taking it personally, saying that the other games we like are garbage. This is how much you don't respect what the others like, but you want to be respected.
''...and yet you like garbage like the one based on the 90s cartoon...''; ''That grabage has broken continuity''; ''...then you said that garbage Web of Shadows is ok''; ''This kind of garbage receives more compliments...''.

Putting words on my mouth. Saying things I didn't. Interpreting stuff wrong...
Dude, as I already said, I don't want to talk about all of this stuff all over again. I'm not forced to like what you do and see as you see.
I. DON'T. LIKE. THIS. GAME. Period.
Case closed.

If you want to talk about Naruto, then we'll do it in its own thread, but the subject of SM3, between me and you, is over. It was over before you began insisting on this once again and continued after I said I didn't want to talk about it. Don't push it.
Move on.

 

[spidermanJLA!~]

Longest. Posts. Ever.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Jick, debate is over only when you admit I'm right, which I am
Scorpion is the same, don't compare him to Garfield and Maguire, those have two different personalities, Scorpion from SM1 and SM3 have the same personality, you reject seeing it doesn't make it truth
Instead of telling me to try to relate and I tried and already countered several complaints in a way you should say I make a point, say I make a fair point, admit it
I did not put words in your mouth out of nowhere, I brought words you said before, remember them
You dislike the game? You're wrong, it's better than Spider-Man 2 in some aspects, heck, more aspects than it's not, and that's an observation
If you don't want the debate, quit debating, but know that when I'm right I stick aggressively to what I say, and if I try to relate and see garbage complaints are still garbage complaints, your turn to revise them

Should Spider-Man be allowed to go to a canteen in the next game? Not to replenish his health, that will be annoying, just for a blast
I do understand the programming effort that will be put into it, and the larger animation effort

 

[spidermanJLA!~]

To bring this thread back, I must say while Eot is just a traditional beat em up, the content makes up for it. Arenas, costumes, movies, the works. Amazing Spider-man+EoT= a great combination. Am I right?

 

[Supa]

To bring this thread back, I must say while Eot is just a traditional beat em up, the content makes up for it. Arenas, costumes, movies, the works. Amazing Spider-man+EoT= a great combination. Am I right?

EoT has one of the best selections of costumes, up there with the PS1 games. I think it has the best looking black suit, it's not purple, it's goopy. The preorder costumes were great, and I don't think Masked Marvel has ever been seen outside of Amazing Fantasy. Plus some of the VIP costumes were cool

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I'll put EoT as an equal to Enter Electro when it comes to costumes, EE has all the costumes from the earlier game and a few more
An arena addition would have been nice, at least replaying levels gives me a chance to use combat as I please

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Speaking of arenas, I would have greatly enjoyed having some combat challenge maps or an arena for ASM.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

I guess we can give up on DLC.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

I guess we can give up on DLC.

More than likely, yes. It's a shame really. Not sure what went wrong.

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Talking about arenas, and other challenges we wish to have in this game, or another one

*Two things out of place with the story:
1. How did Smythe know Peter uses artificial web shooters?
2. Like Spider-Island, everyone is cured, and the virus just flies away full blown, or dies. What happened?

I read Amazing Spider-Man Annual 19 cause I remember it being fun read, and was it worth the go again? It's highly entertaining