Animals Are Not Ours To Wear

KingOfDreams said:
I don't really have a problem with using animals for sustinance...the whole Native American way. In nature there are herbivores and there are carnivores and each has to survive. But as we have it now, it's kind of wasteful, only using certain parts of the animal and discarding all the rest, and then I'm sure tons of the meat that does get used for food is discarded as well. And as far as fur clothing goes, it seems to me that only people who live far North would still need to wear it for a non-fashion reason. Killing something for a fickle concept like fashion is kind of sick.

what are you talking about.
 
Holly Goodhead said:
That anything like the "hump" on a camel's back...cause that stuff makes good bar-b-que.
 
This makes me happy that Fall is right around the corners so I can start wearing my leather again. :up:

jag
 
I know you guys are joking but it's sad how desensitized most Americans have become to animal cruelty.
 
I blame it on FOX news.
 
We are cruel to plants all the time. They are a form of life. Should we be prejudice to RNA and not DNA? Are things with faces the only thing we should respect? How about microscopic lifeforms? We kill more lifeforms by eating cheese or washing our bedsheets.

Where does it end? Or should we just accept our place in the scheme of Natural Selection?


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Holly Goodhead said:
I'd like to wear your wifes hide.

People such as yourself that advocate killing of people in grotesque fashion yet decry it as a vile crime when done to animals deserve to wallow in the anguish of their own hypocrisy.

jag
 
Franklin Richards said:
We are cruel to plants all the time. They are a form of life. Should we be prejudice to RNA and not DNA? Are things with faces the only thing we should respect? How about microscopic lifeforms? We kill more lifeforms by eating cheese or washing our bedsheets.

Where does it end? Or should we just accept our place in the scheme of Natural Selection?


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There's a difference between eating something that used to have a heartbeat and eating something that doesn't have a nervous system.
 
jaguarr said:
People such as yourself that advocate killing of people in grotesque fashion yet decry it as a vile crime when done to animals deserve to wallow in the anguish of their own hypocrisy.

jag

Fight violence with violence.
 
Holly Goodhead said:
There's a difference between eating something that used to have a heartbeat and eating something that doesn't have a nervous system.

What makes you think plants DON'T have nervous systems or can't feel pain?

jag
 
What? What is the difference? That we have placed our own personal emotions into it? We anthropomorphize animals but we have no scientific evidence that plants and bacteria don't feel the same things. Some science suggests that plantlife is very much a feeling, living lifeform.

So where does it end? I'll tell you where. It ends with the ego of the human race. We place emotional ties with some animals but not all lifeforms. It makes us feel better to protect a puppy. But the fact of the matter is that puppies are just as much creatures of instinct as a venus flytrap is.


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Franklin Richards said:
What? What is the difference? That we have placed our own personal emotions into it? We anthropomorphize animals but we have no scientific evidence that plants and bacteria don't feel the same things. Some science suggests that plantlife is very much a feeling, living lifeform.

So where does it end? I'll tell you where. It ends with the ego of the human race. We place emotional ties with some animals but not all lifeforms. It makes us feel better to protect a puppy. But the fact of the matter is that puppies are just as much creatures of instinct as a venus flytrap is.


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Ingrid Newkirk..is that you?
 
Holly Goodhead said:
Fight violence with violence.
Kinda like fornicate for celibacy.
 
Holly Goodhead said:
Apparently you failed Biology class.

Apparently you never studied any botany. While plants may not have as complex a nervous system as motile organisms like humans, animals and fish, they do possess sensory structures and nerve fibers. What it may come down to, really, though, is the question of sentiency. No one really knows how sentient plants may or may not be because they function at a level that man hasn't been able to fully understand.

jag
 
Anyone remember the Killer Carrot from Lost In Space?
 
Yeah. I ground him into pulp and made a zig zag out of him. I then proceeded to smoke him and his pot brother. It was sweet.


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jaguarr said:
Apparently you never studied any botany. While plants may not have as complex a nervous system as motile organisms like humans, animals and fish, they do possess sensory structures and nerve fibers. What it may come down to, really, though, is the question of sentiency. No one really knows how sentient plants may or may not be because they function at a level that man hasn't been able to fully understand.

jag

You sound so silly right now.

Plants have no form of a nervous system or a cerebral cortex. Obviously they can react to things like temperature, pH, and light but thats due to chemicals in their stems and leaves.
Plants can't feel pain. Nor can they think, nor could they ever evolve to be able to think. If a plant like thing was capable of movement and thought, then it wouldnt be classified as a plant.

Comprehend?
 

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