Animals Are Not Ours To Wear

jaguarr said:
You didn't come here for intelligent conversation and debate about this topic. You came here to ignite flame wars, start arguments and behave in a childish manner. Someone who truly wanted to present their cause in a meaningful manner that might have gotten some folks to at least think about what was being presented would have taken an infinitely more tactful approach. Your posts smack of being nothing more than a overzealous attention ****e's desperate cry for someone to notice them. You've been noticed. Are you happy, now?

jag
If you can't beat them, join them.
 
jaguarr said:
You didn't come here for intelligent conversation and debate about this topic. You came here to ignite flame wars, start arguments and behave in a childish manner. Someone who truly wanted to present their cause in a meaningful manner that might have gotten some folks to at least think about what was being presented would have taken an infinitely more tactful approach. Your posts smack of being nothing more than a overzealous attention ****e's desperate cry for someone to notice them. You've been noticed. Are you happy, now?

jag


BEAR.jpg
 
Ok, if i'm not allowed to post pics of animal cruelty then no one else should be allowed to. :o
 
Venice said:
If you can't beat them, join them.

Your second post in this thread:

Venice said:
How would you feel if someone cut your cat's or dog's skin off and made a pair of gloves?

The above statement is inflammatory and designed to generate nothing more than an emotional response from those you were targeting with it. Your very first post was designed to bait the target, the second was designed to agitate them. From there, you continued to escalate the situation with reply after reply that served the only purpose of worsening the arguments and insults. A classic troll tactic.

If you were truly serious and halfway intelligent about your cause, this approach never would have been used. Most people who support a particular special interest group realize that to offend and irritate the people you would like to bring around to your way of thinking is the least likely way to do so. If that point is lost on you and you are truly serious about your cause, then you are an idiot who is a discredit to all people who wish to further the cause you purport to represent. If you are aware of that point and still continue this approach, then you are still an idiot for all the same reasons.

There are only three logical reasons for your behavior on these boards that I can think of.

1. You're an overzealous idiot who doesn't realize how their own behavior works against them and pushes people from their cause.

2. You're really someone who hates PETA and any other groups like them and wishes to push people to resent them for being overzealous idiots. If that's the case, then you are a genius.

3. You a troll who baited folks and then agitated them once they were on the hook.

So, which are you?

Regards,
jag
 
Venice said:
Ok, if i'm not allowed to post pics of animal cruelty then no one else should be allowed to. :o

it's ok, those bears were homosexuals
 
jaguarr said:
Your second post in this thread:



The above statement is inflammatory and designed to generate nothing more than an emotional response from those you were targeting with it. Your very first post was designed to bait the target, the second was designed to agitate them. From there, you continued to escalate the situation with reply after reply that served the only purpose of worsening the arguments and insults. A classic troll tactic.

If you were truly serious and halfway intelligent about your cause, this approach never would have been used. Most people who support a particular special interest group realize that to offend and irritate the people you would like to bring around to your way of thinking is the least likely way to do so. If that point is lost on you and you are truly serious about your cause, then you are an idiot who is a discredit to all people who wish to further the cause you purport to represent. If you are aware of that point and still continue this approach, then you are still an idiot for all the same reasons.

There are only three logical reasons for your behavior on these boards that I can think of.

1. You're an overzealous idiot who doesn't realize how their own behavior works against them and pushes people from their cause.

2. You're really someone who hates PETA and any other groups like them and wishes to push people to resent them for being overzealous idiots. If that's the case, then you are a genius.

3. You a troll who baited folks and then agitated them once they were on the hook.

So, which are you?

Regards,
jag
Thank you for that novel. :up: However, you must be a really slow learner because you should see by now I don't care what your useless opinions are. You've already proved to me you don't have the social skills to communicate ideas with other human beings. :)
 
Bruce rocks. :)

"If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then of course we're going to be blowing things up and smashing windows. … I think it's a great way to bring animal liberation, considering the level of suffering, the atrocities. I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories, and banks that fund them, exploded tomorrow."
 
Venice said:
Thank you for that novel. :up: However, you must be a really slow learner because you should see by now I don't care what your useless opinions are. You've already proved to me you don't have the social skills to communicate ideas with other human beings. :)

Wait, what?

He has proven it time and time again, your ignorance just prevents you from understanding it.
 
Venice said:
Thank you for that novel. :up: However, you must be a really slow learner because you should see by now I don't care what your useless opinions are. You've already proved to me you don't have the social skills to communicate ideas with other human beings. :)

Yep.Its a troll.
 
Venice said:
Bruce rocks. :)

"If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then of course we're going to be blowing things up and smashing windows. … I think it's a great way to bring animal liberation, considering the level of suffering, the atrocities. I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories, and banks that fund them, exploded tomorrow."

Bruce is a homosexual name:)
 
Venice said:
"With so many wonderful alternatives to wool, fur, and leather, there's simply no need to use animal skins to cover your own skin. For every wool sweater, leather belt or jacket, or bit of fur trim, animals are tortured and mutilated in ways that would make any compassionate person's skin crawl. Sheep, cows, foxes, rabbits, minks, and other animals used for their fleece, fur, or skins feel pain and suffer just like the dogs and cats in our own homes, yet chunks of their flesh are hacked off, they are electrocuted, their necks are snapped, and their throats are slit open, often without any painkillers. Join kind people everywhere and shed your skins-wear only compassionate, animal-free clothing." - PETA

Wearing animal fur is disgusting. :( Here's some more gross information: http://www.furisdead.com/animals.html

I didn't want to post any pictures because they're nauseating.


:)


Yeah, 'cause when we run out of animals for our fur and leather, we're gonna start wearing HUMAN fur and leather!

"People! Fur coats are made of PEOPLE!" ;)
 
kritic said:
Wait, what?

He has proven it time and time again, your ignorance just prevents you from understanding it.
I don't see a point in trying to be nice to you people when all you've showed me is that you're immature and malicious.

The whole reason for this thread was to educate people on the alternatives of wearing fur, yet everyone felt compelled to irritate me by gloating about killing animals. Yet in the end, what are they doing besides sitting on their asses and complaining? Absolutely nothing.
 
dmcnx said:
Yep.Its a troll.
Right, keep hiding behind your post count. Maybe one day people in the real world will respect you. ;)
 
Venice said:
Right, keep hiding behind your post count. Maybe one day people in the real world will respect you. ;)

When the hell did I try to hide behind my post count?When the hell did I ask for respect?When the hell are you going to die?
 
Venice said:
I don't see a point in trying to be nice to you people when all you've showed me is that you're immature and malicious.

The whole reason for this thread was to educate people on the alternatives of wearing fur, yet everyone felt compelled to irritate me by gloating about killing animals. Yet in the end, what are they doing besides sitting on their asses and complaining? Absolutely nothing.
Why would they do anything? They like to eat and wear animals. Like most people.

"The whole reason for this thread was to educate people on the alternatives of wearing fur..."

And it's comments like this that make me want to go out and kill something endangered. You should just worry about educating yourself, and leave us to educate ourselves. We didn't get dropped on our head, or molested or whatever it is that happened to you when you were young that makes you weep for fish.
 
Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

Well, there you have it. God says we rule animals.
 
dmcnx said:
When the hell did I try to hide behind my post count?When the hell did I ask for respect?When the hell are you going to die?
Whatever, i'm done with you. Your inability to think with an open mind is draining me. Have fun on ignore.:rolleyes:
 
Venice said:
Thank you for that novel. :up: However, you must be a really slow learner because you should see by now I don't care what your useless opinions are. You've already proved to me you don't have the social skills to communicate ideas with other human beings. :)


So, instead of taking my points as a hint that perhaps your approach serves more to alienate you from the very audience you wish to reach, you resort to poorly conceived, childish insults. An assessment of your own social skills notwithstanding, I was initially leaning towards your being a troll but you're starting to convince me that you're just an overzealous idiot. At any rate, you've completely undermined your own goals in this thread. How does it feel to be completely defeated by yourself?

jag
 

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