Another Pixar sequel... Finding Dory

[Drizzle]

Nah, that would be the Incredibles 2.

I agree, but we say that because we're fanboys. Overall, the general audience liked Finding Nemo a lot more than The Incredibles. According to Rotten Tomatoes, 82% of audiences liked Finding Nemo as opposed to the 67% that liked The Incredibles (the critic meters for both of them were in the upper 90s). Not to mention Finding Nemo made almost $1 billion worldwide. Disney was probably itching to pull the trigger on a sequel for almost a decade.

The Incredibles 2 depends a lot on Brad Bird, and he's willing to do it, but only if the story is good. I think that's the right way to go. I'd rather have no Incredibles 2 at all than have one that sucks.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

ok i bring this up again

CARS GETS a SEQUEL AND A SPIN OFF
MONSTERS INC GETS A PREQUEL
AND NOW FINDING NEMO GETS A SEQUEL

all 3 were stories that were contained and did not need it, but the one film that is ripe for sequels the incredibles gets **** all

 

[jmc]

ok i bring this up again

CARS GETS a SEQUEL AND A SPIN OFF
MONSTERS INC GETS A PREQUEL
AND NOW FINDING NEMO GETS A SEQUEL

all 3 were stories that were contained and did not need it, but the one film that is ripe for sequels the incredibles gets **** all

Incredibles is Brad Bird's baby so there's zero chance of them doing a sequel to that without him involved.

 

[Octoberist]

Yeah, people are making it as if they don't want to do it but Bird isn't ready and right now, he's busy with Tommorowland.

 

[Octoberist]

What's curious is Disney's slate for 2015.

With Finding Dory officially coming out on Thanksgiving 2015, we're still waiting on Disney's release for JJ's 'Star Wars Episode VII'. Until he's done with 'Star Trek', it seems like he's still buying time till he can commit to the 2015 release date.

Still, I think Star Wars will be a December 2015 release, competing against the all mighty 'Avatar 2' if need be. Well, if Avatar 2 is coming out that year (not confirmed..yet.)

The other question mark would be Disney/Marvel's 'Ant-Man', which is speculatively being released in November 2015 too, though I wouldn't be surprised if it got moved to 2016.

 

[SuperT]

I agree, but we say that because we're fanboys. Overall, the general audience liked Finding Nemo a lot more than The Incredibles. According to Rotten Tomatoes, 82% of audiences liked Finding Nemo as opposed to the 67% that liked The Incredibles (the critic meters for both of them were in the upper 90s). Not to mention Finding Nemo made almost $1 billion worldwide. Disney was probably itching to pull the trigger on a sequel for almost a decade.

The Incredibles 2 depends a lot on Brad Bird, and he's willing to do it, but only if the story is good. I think that's the right way to go. I'd rather have no Incredibles 2 at all than have one that sucks.

Exactly. Fanboys may be clamoring for a sequel to The Incredibles, but the general movie going audience says otherwise.

Also, I don't get the disdain from people about Pixar doing sequels. Are they just not ever allowed to do sequels for their movies ever? People act like they are ditching new material in favor of sequels. The only two sequels we know for sure are coming are Monsters U this summer and Finding Dory in 2015.

People seem to forget we just got Brave last year, we're getting The Good Dinosaur next year, Inside Out the year after that and the Day of the Dead movie possibly in 2016. So it really confuses me when people say Pixar is abandoning their original idea?

 

[ThePhantasm]

Bird won't make an Incredibles sequel unless he is sure that it will be as good as or better than the first. He's not a sell-out. I respect him for that.

 

[jmc]

The reason for disdain is that for 10 years Pixar was at the forefront of great storytelling and taking us to worlds we'd never seen. The problem is their work in their original material is starting to wane and I think bringing back some of their successful franchises frankly shows that the company is slowly running out of ideas, they're using safety cushions to compensate for weaker stories. Creatively some new blood is required in the company to move it forward.

 

[Octoberist]

Exactly. Fanboys may be clamoring for a sequel to The Incredibles, but the general movie going audience says otherwise.

Also, I don't get the disdain from people about Pixar doing sequels. Are they just not ever allowed to do sequels for their movies ever? People act like they are ditching new material in favor of sequels. The only two sequels we know for sure are coming are Monsters U this summer and Finding Dory in 2015.

People seem to forget we just got Brave last year, we're getting The Good Dinosaur next year, Inside Out the year after that and the Day of the Dead movie possibly in 2016. So it really confuses me when people say Pixar is abandoning their original idea?

Here's the thing, and I think it's a matter of perspective: I think fanboys can have great points that gets drowned in hyperbole and absolutism.

So that being said, when Pixar released 'Cars 2' right after their great 'Toy Story 3' it was strange not because they were releasing sequels but doing it back to back. Then they announced that Monsters Uni was going to get released (though after Brave.) I think there was some weight in the concerns in Pixar's slate. It's as if they're buying time til they can get more original stuff in, which was inevitable.

But when 'Cars 2' got released to a farily lurk warm response (well, for Pixar's standards.) and an okay box office, I think the concern grew even more.

That's why people are concerned: People are afriad something that may or may not happen, which would be a 'Dreamworks/Blue Sky' style reliance on sequels. The problem is that, once fanboys get stuck on an idea or a movement, they'll beat it till turns into glue.

Me being a Pixar fan, saw it too. And guess what? It's normal. Look at James Bond; there were times of greatness and times of stagnant creativity. It happens to the best. Also, animatin has gotten even more competitive than before, now with Universal and Sony releasing cartoons. The world has changed, and perhaps Pixar got TOO comfortable at one point. Again nobody's perfect.

 

[Drizzle]

The reason for disdain is that for 10 years Pixar was at the forefront of great storytelling and taking us to worlds we'd never seen. The problem is their work in their original material is starting to wane and I think bringing back some of their successful franchises frankly shows that the company is slowly running out of ideas, they're using safety cushions to compensate for weaker stories. Creatively some new blood is required in the company to move it forward.

10? Try 15 years. Cars 2 was their first failure. The first one wasn't great, but it didn't suck.

 

[jmc]

The world has changed, and perhaps Pixar got TOO comfortable at one point. Again nobody's perfect.

This is a very good point, they may still be synonymous with CG animation but other studios have well and truly caught up to them, even Disney's own CG animation department is producing good stuff. Perhaps complacency did seep into studio.

 

[Octoberist]

This is a very good point, they may still be synonymous with CG animation but other studios have well and truly caught up to them, even Disney's own CG animation department is producing good stuff. Perhaps complacency did seep into studio.

And it happens to the best of us, including Pixar.

But I'll admit, even with Pixar's slight stumble with 'Cars 2', fanboys and the online community like trainwrecks. They like it when successful things fall. Maybe that's human nature.

It's like laughing at the smartest kid in the class for getting a B when you got an A.

 

[Lord]

Exactly. Fanboys may be clamoring for a sequel to The Incredibles, but the general movie going audience says otherwise.

Also, I don't get the disdain from people about Pixar doing sequels. Are they just not ever allowed to do sequels for their movies ever? People act like they are ditching new material in favor of sequels. The only two sequels we know for sure are coming are Monsters U this summer and Finding Dory in 2015.

People seem to forget we just got Brave last year, we're getting The Good Dinosaur next year, Inside Out the year after that and the Day of the Dead movie possibly in 2016. So it really confuses me when people say Pixar is abandoning their original idea?

Most people i know aren't even fanboys and show only mild interest in Pixar movies, and all of them think The Incredible is the one that should get a sequel. It's actually fanboys the ones that know better and understand that Brad Bird's too busy to do it right now.

 

[redhawk23]

Speaking of Pixar and their quality standards:

While I was quick to defend Brave when it came to people trying to build some "Fall of Pixar" narrative last summer, in no way did it deserve the Oscar over the animated films last year.

And then there's the matter of Brave's director and his vision for Pixar, essentially antithetical to their process and the standards they are known for. It sucks to see him possibly gain some form of legitimization through award recognition.

 

[sueb1863]

Brave was OK, but the non-Pixar Disney films have been better lately, to me. The stories of Wreck-It Ralph and Tangled were both better than Brave. Brave LOOKED amazing but the story wasn't nearly as strong as the visuals.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The movie is going to be huge but I'm more interested Disney's next animated film after loving Tangled and Wreck it Ralph.

I'm one of five people who doesn't like Finding Nemo but I hope the fans of it like it.

 

[mclay18]

The movie is going to be huge but I'm more interested Disney's next animated film after loving Tangled and Wreck it Ralph.

I'm one of five people who doesn't like Finding Nemo but I hope the fans of it like it.

Count me in as one of the other four folks. It's just... I've seen the film several times, and its popularity eludes me. Stanton's other films like Monsters Inc. and Wall-E are terrific, but FN doesn't do anything for me.

That said, DeGeneres was a consistent highlight of the film. It'd be nice to see Dory front and center this time.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Count me in as one of the other four folks. It's just... I've seen the film several times, and its popularity eludes me. Stanton's other films like Monsters Inc. and Wall-E are terrific, but FN doesn't do anything for me.

That said, DeGeneres was a consistent highlight of the film. It'd be nice to see Dory front and center this time.

One of my sisters is also one of us.

I thought that Brave was only okay. I don't know, I'm starting to lose interest in Pixar's films.

 

[Drizzle]

It'd be nice to see Dory front and center this time.

She was practically front and center last time.

 

[Project862006]

well ellen is happy

 

[mclay18]

She was practically front and center last time.

She shared screentime with Marlin, and frankly I didn't like him. It was his fault for Nemo being lost in the first place.

 

[redhawk23]

She shared screentime with Marlin, and frankly I didn't like him. It was his fault for Nemo being lost in the first place.

Well yeah, that's kind of the point. The experience teaches him to learn from his mistake and relax a bit.

That's basically the whole story.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Oh yeah, he only had to LOSE HIS SON to learn how to be a good parent lol. Still like the movie, but I'm just sayin'

 

[chaseter]

Finding Money - 2015

 

[terry78]

Oh yeah, he only had to LOSE HIS SON to learn how to be a good parent lol. Still like the movie, but I'm just sayin'

Just like in real life.