Comics anybody else dissapointed with Ultimate Spider-Man #100?

[MrEdtheFed]

i was kind of hoping for an original arc instead of rehashed versions of things that happened in the original marvel universe, but i can live with that, what bugged me was that it was a giant sized issue with a 22 page comic story and a bunch of filler.

 

[Ultimate Jay]

That did bug me a bit, but the issue itself was about what I expected.

 

[Crowforge]

You do realize that the whole point of the Ultimates line is to rape your childhood?

 

[CConn]

And here I thought the Clone Saga raped your childhoods the first time around.

i was kind of hoping for an original arc instead of rehashed versions of things that happened in the original marvel universe

They've been doing that since issue #1, fyi.

 

[Kraven]

I thought this arc has been pretty original so far...

 

[Citizen_Kaine]

And here I thought the Clone Saga raped your childhoods the first time around.

Ben Reilly was my childhood bro. This arc has been great, but I agree, USM 100 should not have been a recap issue

 

[Donald Thomas]

And here I thought the Clone Saga raped your childhoods the first time around.
They've been doing that since issue #1, fyi.

Aloha,
Hopefully all people realize that The Ultimate line was designed to be a REHASH of the ofriginal 616 Spider-Man.Always love Bages art. Do we know who's coming onboeard after him?
Spidey rules

 

[Donald Thomas]

And here I thought the Clone Saga raped your childhoods the first time around.
They've been doing that since issue #1, fyi.

Aloha,
Hopefully all readers realize that The Ultimate line was designed to be a REHASH of the of the original 616 Spider-Man.Always love Bages art. Do we know who's coming onboard after him?
Spidey rules

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

I wish there'd been a bit more Spidey action, but otherwise it was okay IMO.

 

[Hyper Venom]

I was kind of disappointed. I hate that Bendis has this habit of putting important issues in the middle of storyarcs, and in the centennial issue that should not have been. Just like how Issue 75 was in the middle of the Hobgoblin arc. That was wasted potential for a great issue. But anything to make space for a Graphic Novel, I suppose.

As far as the story goes, it all seems pretty generic to me. I guess we'll see what happens. This book just doesn't have the charm it once had, in my opinion.

 

[gliderpilotgirl]

I was very disappointed. They hyped it up for months, about how it's been double sized, then we get a normal issue, ( a sub standard one btw ) with an entire second half full of ads,sketches and a summary. All this dragging the story out, and talk of a new status quo, and the lack of progress in the storyline, all it is doing, at least for me, is turning me off to the book. Most of what I loved about the book, Peter and MJ's relationship, Aunt May, Gwen, and Kong and school crew, is long gone. I am really worried about the direction of the book, and am considering not reading it anymore. It's not worth the frustration.

 

[Joker]

I've loved this arc so far, and I could really care less about the 2nd half of 100 being extra things. I love extra things. And I love the darker direction USM has been heading since the Carnage arc.

 

[freemadison]

I love the arc so far but issue 100 felt more like an issue 99 to me....

 

[Hyper Venom]

I was very disappointed. They hyped it up for months, about how it's been double sized, then we get a normal issue, ( a sub standard one btw ) with an entire second half full of ads,sketches and a summary. All this dragging the story out, and talk of a new status quo, and the lack of progress in the storyline, all it is doing, at least for me, is turning me off to the book. Most of what I loved about the book, Peter and MJ's relationship, Aunt May, Gwen, and Kong and school crew, is long gone. I am really worried about the direction of the book, and am considering not reading it anymore. It's not worth the frustration.

I couldn't agree more. I'm actually a bit surprised you lasted this long. I stopped caring around the time of the first Carnage story. I honestly feel that the last really good USM story was the Hollywood arc (though the Hobgoblin story wasn't bad). Bendis has this incredibly annoying habit of of stretching out stories much longer than they need to be, and I would rather spend the money I put aside for comics on more quality books such as The Ultimates. Now with Mark Bagley leaving the book, I don't think I'm going to care anymore.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

It's Bendis, it's Ultimate, so no I wasn't disappointed 'cause I pretty much expected what we got. Bendis sucks.

 

[MaxCarnage]

Since I am not buying Marvel right now, I would be greatly appreciative if someone could explain why it was so dissapointing? So far I'd heard nothing but good things about this arc.

 

[gliderpilotgirl]

I couldn't agree more. I'm actually a bit surprised you lasted this long. I stopped caring around the time of the first Carnage story. I honestly feel that the last really good USM story was the Hollywood arc (though the Hobgoblin story wasn't bad). Bendis has this incredibly annoying habit of of stretching out stories much longer than they need to be, and I would rather spend the money I put aside for comics on more quality books such as The Ultimates. Now with Mark Bagley leaving the book, I don't think I'm going to care anymore.

I thought the last strong arc was Superstars..not necessarily an awesome arc, but at least enjoyable. Since then, all we've seen is Peter being "Peter Parker no more", too much X-men, and MJ getting her heart broken repeatedly. It's not enjoyable anymore. And now, with Gwen seeming to be Carnage, it looks like Bendis is going to spit in the Gwen's fans' faces, after teasing them about her being back. And likely will spit in the MJ's fans' faces too, by teasing about reconciliation, than having MJ die, or get messed with badly. I love USM, but the earlier arcs are making this stuff look bad. If 101 and the rest are good, I may change my tune, but 98-100 have been disappointments.

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Since I am not buying Marvel right now, I would be greatly appreciative if someone could explain why it was so dissapointing? So far I'd heard nothing but good things about this arc.

Quickie version, someone else can explain it to you more in-depth I imagine:

Pete gets into an argument with Kitty, and later encounters the Scorpion at the mall. During the battle the mask is damaged, and the face underneath is none other than Peter Parker. Meanwhile, someone kidnaps Mary Jane from her room. (USM #97)

Peter takes the Scorpion-clone to the Baxter Building to the Fantastic Four to analyze. Peter Parker reveals his identity to the group and then runs home so as not to be late. When he returns he discovers MJ's disappearance. Panicked, he runs to "the spot" where he encounters a girl with spider-powers (Spider-Woman). They tussle briefly, and she leaves. For some reason Pete return to his old house in Queens, where he finds a very confused Gwen Stacy. Meanwhile, Mary Jane awakens, captive in the old OsCorp facility. (USM #98)

The Fantastic Four attempt to communicate with the Scorpion. He mentions the zoo, wondering if he's returned there and mentions that there are others at the zoo. Scorpion tries to escape, and Reed decides that this situation is too big not to bring in Nick Fury, despite protests from Peter in the previous issue. Mary Jane's captor - who turns out to be a deformed Peter Parker clone - tells MJ that he's going to give her super-powers so that he won't have to worry about protecting her anymore. A dumbfounded Peter tries to figure out what to make of Gwen when Aunt May arrives. Aunt May freaks out and Peter reveals that he's Spider-Man to her. Richard Parker enters and asks her to calm down, and May speaks to him as if she knew he was alive already. Meanwhile, after being informed of the clone situation, Nick Fury assembles a team to go and take down Peter. (USM #99)

It's revealed that Richard Parker never actually died because at the last second, Richard chose not to get on the plane that later crashed, killing Mary Parker and the Brocks. After that he was recruited by a government splinter cell hoping to monitor Nick Fury's actions and take him down if necessary. He is unable to resume his old life or inform any of his relatives that he's still alive. At one point he goes rogue and approaches May, who flips out on him and tells him to stay away from Peter. This is around the time when Nick Fury shows up, and things go nuts. Gwen transforms into Carnage and leaps out to battle the soldiers, and May's heart gives out. Meanwhile, at OsCorp, the Deformed Clone is confronted by a Six-Armed Clone. The two fight, and the Deformed Clone is victorious. He then resumes his experimentation on Mary Jane. (USM #100)

That ended up being more in-depth than I wanted it to be. But there you go.

 

[gliderpilotgirl]

check out wikipedia under "Ultimate Spider-man story arcs", for a similar thing to what he just said. Though I personally have had to edit it, b/c some dumb-butt was screwing with it.

 

[Feature]

I'm really surprised to hear these things from you, glider. From what you post on the other thread, I had no idea you were considering dropping the book. You are always actively speculating and promoting conversation... not to mention defending and praising Bendis and Bagley... I thought you loved the book and its current arc.

 

[Bullseye]

I had some what mixed feelings about USM #100. Although, I am awaiting the Clone Saga arc to come to a close. Then I will give a final verdict of my opinion on the story.

 

[gliderpilotgirl]

I'm really surprised to hear these things from you, glider. From what you post on the other thread, I had no idea you were considering dropping the book. You are always actively speculating and promoting conversation... not to mention defending and praising Bendis and Bagley... I thought you loved the book and its current arc.

don't get me wrong..I still love USM and stuff ( and Bendis and Bagley )..I'm just wearying of the screwing with the fans heads..as well as the protracted storylines. Alot of people were so happy to see Gwen back, and now it looks like it was all a tease. I don't like it when writers mess with their fans' heads.
( It's also disgust at some other comics spilling over..like ASM etc, I find USM and Spider-man loves MJ have been my lifeboat.)
It's also, you realize how much time you spend thinking of this, and reading etc, and wonder if there isn't a better use for your time and energy.

 

[TheFlyinRussian]

Is it just me, or did USM #100 feel more like an issue that's supposed to happen directly after a milestone issue? One of the "mind boggling endings" was when the degenerated clone told MJ she's transformed. That's really not a huge ending since that was his intent from issue #98, and if he didn't change her, it would've been anti-climactic. A bigger issue #100 surprise would've been showing who her captor was for the first time or revealing what he's changed MJ into. Another ending was Gwen turning into Carnage, but that's not a huge surprise since everybody suspected she was a clone of some sort anyway. Somebody even asked if Gwen was Carnage in the letters page. Peter revealing his identity to Aunt May and getting kicked out would have been a bigger shock than May having heart problems .Peter in the regular Marvel universe feared that since day one. Have Peter's dad walk in instead of having him explain how he's alive. Now that I think about, USM #99 was probably meant to be the 100th issue, but somewhere along the line Bendis couldn't milk one more issue out of an arc so they did this.

 

[coryplayspiano]

I won't discount anyone's opinion of the story in issue #100, but is it really this hard to count the pages? My copy of USM #100 had 31 pages of artwork and story, not including the opening page summary. I can't believe how many people have posted on different forums that the story was of regular length. Anyone expecting a genuine double-sized issue has 2 things to blame: inexperience and misleading comic book marketing.

Comics usually have 22 pages of story in a 32-page book. "Double-sized" issues usually contain 35 paqes of story in a 48-page book, though in the last 5 years they seem to have gotten stingier. How they can legally advertise these as double-sized issues is beyond me, but this is the way comic books have worked for over a decade. The typical issue of USM has 21-22 pages of story. Issue 97 actually had 23, #98 had 22, and #99 had 21.

I agree on points about the issue suffering from coming in the middle of an arc, and your points about the issue not being as long as you expected are valid. But please stop saying that this was just a normal sized story with extra sketches and such. It was a 64-page book (not including the X-Men: First Class insert in the middle) with 31 pages of story. Some of the rest was indeed filler, but it was still a special issue to me. Do I wish Marvel had put more story in? Definitely.

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[MrEdtheFed]

dude , half of it was Peter's dad telling a bloated story.