Iron Man Anyone one else getting a weird vibe about the tone of this movie?

[Vaportrail]

I don't get what the issue is here. It seems fine.

There is no way this movie won't be cool.

 

[explode7]

^Yeah I don't get the wierd vibe people are talking about. It' almost like if certain people like to ***** about anything.

 

[The Major]

But there is absolutely no need for Iron Man to have that kind of depth.

Iron Man can be a very complex character.

Iron Man is light entertainment, always has been.

I disagree.

He's dealt with alcoholism, intrigue, the business world, government policy and has had serious trust issues with his allies (The Armor Wars, Civil War, The Crossing). Which certainly isn't light hearted entertainment.

 

[Gamma Ra]

Tony Stark, like all other Marvel Universe characters are as emotionally human and conflicted as people living in the real world. They have their ups and downs. I think the trailer portrayed the serious tones in the movie as well as the light heartedness. The fact that Tony is filled with shrapnel, kidnapped along with the conviction you hear in Downey Jr. when he makes the statement that he wants to protect the people he put in harms way proves that. I say we shouldn't jump the gun.

 

[Victarion]

Not that, it almost literally seems like a cheesy 80's movie at points.

I am getting a similar vibe, but in no way cheesy 80's flick vibe. It lacks two key points:

1. Mullets
2. Toilet death scenes.

That said, I'm not quite sure what to call the vibe. Maybe Ghost Rider-ish?

 

[FaT_tONle]

The only vibe I am getting is that the movie maybe be a little too formulaic... I mean cmon... Stark learns that being a weapons contractor means "with great power comes great responsibility"... he wants to "use this monster to help other people" (I wonder)... I mean then he tests his suit and it crash lands like it always does when he gets too cocky... I might fall asleep in the middle of the film to be honest... it is what it is... Favreau can't get wrapped up in dragging this thing a mile long... spend at least 45 minutes on Stark alone... the "cocky son of a b****", his time as a prisoner, his escape... then show the Stark life style which they obviously do in the trailer... but don't spend 20 minutes on soliloquies like "I want to protect the people... I put in harms way".... don't drag it out like Nolan did with BB... just get to the point but be creative with it at the same time if possible...

 

[SPider-T0rch]

but..the movie's called "iron man" not "tony stark". was BB really just "bruce wayne starts"?

 

[FaT_tONle]

Instead of following the same formula... I'd try to spin it in its own unique way... lets see the maverick superhero... doing things not only because its the right thing to do... but doing things for the sake of "hell I just want to impress the media"... from the trailer they might do this from the looks of it... I say go for it... give me a hero embracing the fame... not running from it... or using the alter ego to hide or escape from Tony Stark... instead of using the alter ego only to serve justice and do what's right... that's what I want to see...

 

[Prefix]

Iron Man can be a very complex character.



I disagree.

He's dealt with alcoholism, intrigue, the business world, government policy and has had serious trust issues with his allies (The Armor Wars, Civil War, The Crossing). Which certainly isn't light hearted entertainment.

I am not knocking the character when I say light entertainment, but it is true that overall Iron Man comics aren't high art. Doesn't mean they are trash, as I firmly believe that light entertainment is pretty much the best form of entertainment.

Iron Man isn't Watchmen. Nobody should expect it to be.

 

[explode7]

Please stop *****ing guys. Iron Man is going to be the surprise hit of the summer and there's nothing wierd about that.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

To be fun and exciting. Jeez people this is Comic Book 101 stuff here.

Are you kidding?
Fun and excitement is inherent to the genre, not the "point" of a comic book, of any comic book to be exact.

But there is absolutely no need for Iron Man to have that kind of depth. Iron Man is light entertainment, always has been.

Every comic book movie is more than just light entertainment....way more.

 

[Vaportrail]

You can take any movie seriously or not. They're light entertainment with potential for getting emotionally hooked.

I still can't help but smiling when I'm watching Spider-Man in action. I'd just waited so long.
I'm sure IM will have his moments too.

 

[Prefix]

Every comic book movie is more than just light entertainment....way more.

How so?

 

[Rac]

But lately, everything I've seen from IRON MAN almost makes it look like a cheesefest. They're really playing up the humor angle a lot more than they did before in earlier showings of the trailer, etc. Anyone else getting that vibe a little?

You know, I've been having the same feeling since the first teaser. I hope that they really aren't making a comedy.

 

[thegameq]

Whats the deal with this thread? I don't get a wierd vibe from this movie at all. This movie is going to be a fun, entertaining and funny movie with a simple story (what have been shown so far) rather than some serious, dark and complex story. I've had enough of those movies already. I guess people are forgetting the point of comic books huh?

Isn't it obvious?

Thank Chris Nolan for taking the J out of joy when it comes to comicbook films. Don't be surprised if the next Spider-man film has Spidey wearing some kind of rubber body armor and he uses a grappling hook instead of shooting webs along with climbing claws.

 

[thegameq]

I think a key to remember is that this film will be an amalgam of the 80s-90s (red and gold avenger, "ole shell head") Iron Man and of course the Ultimate Universe.

Expect the fantastic elements that made the character popular in the first place (high flying, hi-tech suit of armor, classic superhero stuff) mixed with more current elements. Of course the angst of alcoholism will follow.

All I know is, if this movie makes me grin from ear to ear the way the Spidey movies make me grin, I'll be very happy. Judging from my reaction to the trailers....t: t: t:

 

[PaleHuman]

yeah i gotta terrible feeling about iron man- its going to rely on humor and cgi- therefore its going to be terrible. the trailers- cmon- they gotta come with more than that- its 2008. they have to realize we have seen it all. whats with the extreme, fast-paced closeup on the car pulling up in the trailer- this is that cheesy editing that guarantees failure

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

How so?

How so?!
Look at the comics books themself...they depict the lifes of the men and women behind the suits, not the adventures of (insert character).
I don´t remember who said it, but it was a big name in the comic book business, 5 or 6 years ago, in an issue of Wizard (when i still bought it)....comic book still have that name because it´s a powerful and known title, because they should be called tragic books.
And it´s true, just look at the dramas the characters have endured, from Batman having his back broken, to Superman being killed, to Spider-Man losing his child, to Iron Man having alcohol problems...and the list goes on.
Then, 90% of superheroes start with a tragic moment in their lives.

Hulk is a physical manifestation of Banner´s repressed feelings; The Punisher is the embodiment of post-traumatic syndrome during time of war; Batman is the response of a kid after having his parents being murdered in front of him; Superman is a orphan of the stars.......do i really need to go on?

Isn't it obvious?
Thank Chris Nolan for taking the J out of joy when it comes to comicbook films.

If you want to blame someone for making a superhero movie the way it should be, blame Ang Lee first.
By joy you mean a mindless popcorn movie, is that it?
Because if it is, you clearly don´t have a clue of what a comic book is, you only know about the powers and whatnot.

 

[The Major]

I am not knocking the character when I say light entertainment, but it is true that overall Iron Man comics aren't high art.

In my opinion you're underestimating the franchise thinking that.

IM isn't high art it isn't a brain-dead Michael Bay movie, either.

Doesn't mean they are trash, as I firmly believe that light entertainment is pretty much the best form of entertainment.

I have no problem with you enjoying light entertainment.

What I don't like is that you're thinking IM is only limited to that.

Iron Man isn't Watchmen. Nobody should expect it to be.

It isn't Watchmen. It's just more complex then you're saying.

Have you read the comic at all?

 

[The Major]

Isn't it obvious?

Thank Chris Nolan for taking the J out of joy when it comes to comicbook films. Don't be surprised if the next Spider-man film has Spidey wearing some kind of rubber body armor and he uses a grappling hook instead of shooting webs along with climbing claws.

Super-hero movies can vary between being super serious and comedic.

It just depends on what franchise they're adapting.

 

[EternalMaster]

Bottom line: If you don't want to see Iron Man, then don't go see it. If you do, then do.

One person's bad vibe is another person's good vibe. If many people get good vibes from the trailers, the movie will have a good B.O. opening weekend.

'Nuff said.

 

[Snikt]

The vibe I'm gettin from this movie is that its gonna be a fun ride. The humor will come Stark as a character rather than simply for laughs. I remember someone comparing him to the character Leo Dicaprio played in Aviator. I can't remember his character's name.

But Stark is meant to be a little crazy. He's a genious billionaire playboy. I'd be a little crazy too if I had all these characteristics.

Buckle up, it gonna be a fun ride (MAYBE BETTER THAN SPIDER-MAN).

 

[Snikt]

Super-hero movies can vary between being super serious and comedic.

It just depends on what franchise they're adapting.

Agreed. Look at Spider-Man. A lot of comedic elements, but plenty of drama. The X-Men, some comedic relief but not a whole lot, leans more towards the drama. Fan 4, A LOT OF COMEDIC elements. It just depends on the franchise and what subjects they deal with.

Spider-Man discusses entering into adulthood and taking responsibilty. A lot of chance for comedy and drama because that is basically what our teens were like. Either very funny or pretty serious.

X-Men deals with issues of discrimination and intolerance and the acceptance of those who are different. Heavy stuff not a lot of chance for humor. Some humor, but not a lot.

Iron Man looks like it will a good mix of both. A lot humor will come from Stark and his experimentation with the armor.

 

[The Major]

Agreed. Look at Spider-Man. A lot of comedic elements, but plenty of drama. The X-Men, some comedic relief but not a whole lot, leans more towards the drama. Fan 4, A LOT OF COMEDIC elements. It just depends on the franchise and what subjects they deal with.

Spider-Man discusses entering into adulthood and taking responsibilty. A lot of chance for comedy and drama because that is basically what our teens were like. Either very funny or pretty serious.

X-Men deals with issues of discrimination and intolerance and the acceptance of those who are different. Heavy stuff not a lot of chance for humor. Some humor, but not a lot.

Iron Man looks like it will a good mix of both. A lot humor will come from Stark and his experimentation with the armor.

The only part I don't agree with you with FF.

The comics do have some comedic and wacky moments only they're not there most of the time. FF is more about exploring wierd places, fighting the occasional super villain who is deadly serious and family drama. The movies make it look like a bad Saturday Night Live sketch with a big budget.

 

[Snikt]

The only part I don't agree with you with FF.

The comics do have some comedic and wacky moments only they're not there most of the time. FF is more about exploring wierd places, fighting the occasional super villain who is deadly serious and family drama. The movies make it look like a bad Saturday Night Live sketch with a big budget.

I'll give you that. I never read FF much as a kid or even today. So I trust your judgement.