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BvS Are we really so sure Lex is in this?

Oh my god, there are so many comics where the Bruce/Lois dynamic is incorporated, going back to the freaking 50's. It will clearly be a plot point.
 
I see Bruce Wayne being a threat to Clark, especially because he's this billionaire playboy, and he's totally macking on Lois.

You've got Lois doing some Daily Planet interview/piece on Wayne, introducing who Wayne is, his story (bam, cue the Wayne Murders - Bruce's life was cloaked in tragedy at a young age, blah blah blah, Lois interviews him about this, and we as an audience are "introduced" to Wayne). Lois and Wayne hit it off and they're a hot item; Clark is jealous.

Wayne has come to Metropolis to help rebuild the city ... but he's really there to investigate Superman. But he knows he could never fight him, because Superman is Superman - he'd kill Batman instantly.

So Wayne discovers Kryptonite, or maybe even creates it with his genius mind and billions of dollars: his one chance of leveling the playing field and weakening Superman so they can have a real fight. This is Batman's key to stopping the threat of Superman on the world and keeping him at bay.

Meanwhile, Superman is enraged to discover that Batman is actually Bruce Wayne, the guy who is totally macking on his would-be girlfriend...

... *Ding ding* FIGHT.

No Lex Luthor is even necessary here. It's a perfect, epic story.

Yes because Superman is well known for using his superpowers for revenge against someone hitting on his girlfriend.
 
of course there will be a Lois/Bruce dynamic, but since Lois knows who Superman is it would be a bad call for it to be anything more than some light flirting.
 
Yes because Superman is well known for using his superpowers for revenge against someone hitting on his girlfriend.

lol.

It obviously wouldn't be the reason, but it would easily be a reason of several.

How are you going to write Batman vs. Superman without there being some sort of conflict first? What other conflict is there between them?
 
If a movie is actually made where Batman and Superman are fighting over a girl for two hours, they can just go ahead and scrap any planned sequels now.
 
If a movie is actually made where Batman and Superman are fighting over a girl for two hours, they can just go ahead and scrap any planned sequels now.

Jesus, that's obviously not what they're doing.
 
How are you going to write Batman vs. Superman without there being some sort of conflict first? What other conflict is there between them?

Easy Batman doesnt know Superman. Is he a threat? Zod was. Maybe this one is, too.

Lex can turn public opinion against him. Batman might fall for Lex's lies.

Maybe Superman loses it by Red kryptonite or some such. Batman fights in self-defense.

These are just three I came up with of the top of my head that are better than relationship issues.
 
lol.

It obviously wouldn't be the reason, but it would easily be a reason of several.

How are you going to write Batman vs. Superman without there being some sort of conflict first? What other conflict is there between them?

well, being a first meeting the conflict could arise from their difference of methods, as well as Bruce's uncertainty of Superman's intentions towards humanity. Batman first and foremost wants people to be afraid of him, which could easily make Superman draw the wrong impression of him. and if Superman were to find out Bruce Wayne is Batman, then conflict could arise should Wayne be involved in business with Luthor, since Superman initially wouldn't know it'd be about investigating Luthor.
the classic Superman/Batman conflict has been about their difference of methods, not about petty disagreements or grudges.
 
well, being a first meeting the conflict could arise from their difference of methods, as well as Bruce's uncertainty of Superman's intentions towards humanity. Batman first and foremost wants people to be afraid of him, which could easily make Superman draw the wrong impression of him. and if Superman were to find out Bruce Wayne is Batman, then conflict could arise should Wayne be involved in business with Luthor, since Superman initially wouldn't know it'd be about investigating Luthor.
the classic Superman/Batman conflict has been about their difference of methods, not about petty disagreements or grudges.

I just wrote that exact thing, lol. We're on the same page.

I think some of us are reading selectively here.
 
I just wrote that exact thing, lol. We're on the same page.

I think some of us are reading selectively here.

same page about some things, but the prospect of Bats and Supes have a grudge match get kicked into gear over Lois doesn't do it for me. And I feel it'd be awkward if they were still at each others throats at the end of the movie, which would be easy to avoid if you have Lex Luthor present for them to team up against.
 
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Well according to this site whose DC source usually gives them correct information Lex has actually been cast and it's Bryan Cranston from Breaking Bad. Apparently they're waiting for the season to end before announcing the casting. While this is to be taken with a grain of salt I'm sure it's true.

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/co...erman-matt-damon-aquaman-mark-strong-sinestro

anything from cosmicbooknews should be taken with an entire salt shaker of salt, but I wouldn't be surprised if Cranston got cast.
 
anything from cosmicbooknews should be taken with an entire salt shaker of salt, but I wouldn't be surprised if Cranston got cast.
I normally do, however their source told them about the Flash tv show before it was announced.
 
a better question should be "Is Lex a bad guy in this?", I think with all the LexCorp logos and damage to his property in Man Of Steel kinda guaranties at the very least an appearance of the man in the sequel, however that does not mean he will be....outright evil, could still be hiding his true intentions....which I kinda hope is the case and then he is the main villain in a third installment
 
a better question should be "Is Lex a bad guy in this?", I think with all the LexCorp logos and damage to his property in Man Of Steel kinda guaranties at the very least an appearance of the man in the sequel, however that does not mean he will be....outright evil, could still be hiding his true intentions....which I kinda hope is the case and then he is the main villain in a third installment

This....I don't even want him to ever be evil until the very end. I don't even want him in the power suit either. I don't know why but I rather Lex fight Supes with his intellect
 
Unless there has been some sort of confirmation or source, or a throwaway statement from a producer, I'm not convinced that Lex Luthor is actually the villain in this film. By all means, if I'm wrong, close the thread.

But to me... it seems like with such a left-field announcement of Ben Affleck as Batman, it almost seems like the "Batman vs. Superman" aspect of this film is too big to have someone like Lex in it, and almost crowds the story (as ridiculous as that sounds). I think they'll focus on the battle of the two titans, and incorporate Bruce discovering Kryptonite as a way to be able to fight Superman.

I predict that a villain as big as Lex Luthor would be the main villain of the Justice League film. Darkseid doesn't seem like a likely option to me, and WB will want to save a huge character like Lex instead of "waste" him in something as big as seeing Batman and Superman together for the first time.

And maybe the tease at the end of this Batman/Superman film is the idea that Lex has discovered Kryptonite too, and that leads into the Justice League film.

Just a thought. I could easily be wrong. Just throwing it out there. It almost seems like Lex Luthor being in this film is too obvious, and I'm not sure WB wants to be that predictable with something this big.

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Jesse Eisenberg

Oh, be convinced. Jesse Eisenberg is Lex Luthor.
 
Not at all... I welcome Lex with loving arms. I adore that character.

I just don't want a painfully obvious movie that we've figured out 2 years in advance. If the movie writes itself that easily, I don't see where the sense of surprise or creativity comes in.

The one thing I could totally buy is a Bruce/Lois/Clark love triangle. That's bound to happen, and could set off the conflict between Batman and Superman if they know each others' identities.

Except if this Batman is the same dark, tortured, almost anti-social character from the comics...then why would he give a **** about a relationship? It would only be a front. Plus, I think Bruce would have bigger problems to conflict with Superman other than a simple love triangle...he'd have to think about how untrustworthy Superman is because of his actions in MOS etc.
 
Exactly.

The idea of Lex rebuilding Metropolis, Bruce working with Lex in some corporate fashion with Wayne Enterprises and LexCorp, the idea of Batman and Superman meeting as enemies and eventually becoming partners to fight the common enemy (Lex)... it just seems so obvious. We essentially know this whole plot 2 years early. I just don't think it's that simple.

I hate to be rude, but it almost sounds like fan fiction - something that anybody could come up with, and we have. Not to mention that it is literally the same movie as the The Batman/Superman Animated Movie from 1997 on Kids WB.

We as fans have "written" this whole movie on these boards... It just seems suspicious, as if WB/Snyder/Goyer would know that that is the easiest, most obvious thing they could do, and they would go in the opposite direction.

To put it into perspective, did you ever think you would see a Superman movie with:

- No Lex Luthor
- No Kryptonite
- No Jimmy Olsen
- No red underwear
- Lois knowing who Superman is the whole time

Well, we got it, and that's as unpredictable as I could've imagined.

Well, as much as some people would hate to admit it, they are better than any of us could ever hope to be at making a compelling story for these characters. These are professionals that we sit up and try to criticize daily.

They know what they are doing and I'm willing to bet there will be many curve balls that we won't see coming.
 
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Jesse Eisenberg

Oh, be convinced. Jesse Eisenberg is Lex Luthor.

Oh, be convinced that somebody photoshopped his face on Matt Damon's body.

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Matt Damon would make a better Luthor than Jesse Eisenberg.
 
Oh, be convinced that somebody photoshopped his face on Matt Damon's body.


Matt Damon would make a better Luthor than Jesse Eisenberg.

But alas, Jesse Eisenberg Lex Luthor (not Matt Damon) and he will be in the movie. So lets not discuss minutiae.
 
Unless there has been some sort of confirmation or source, or a throwaway statement from a producer, I'm not convinced that Lex Luthor is actually the villain in this film. By all means, if I'm wrong, close the thread.

But to me... it seems like with such a left-field announcement of Ben Affleck as Batman, it almost seems like the "Batman vs. Superman" aspect of this film is too big to have someone like Lex in it, and almost crowds the story (as ridiculous as that sounds). I think they'll focus on the battle of the two titans, and incorporate Bruce discovering Kryptonite as a way to be able to fight Superman.

I predict that a villain as big as Lex Luthor would be the main villain of the Justice League film. Darkseid doesn't seem like a likely option to me, and WB will want to save a huge character like Lex instead of "waste" him in something as big as seeing Batman and Superman together for the first time.

And maybe the tease at the end of this Batman/Superman film is the idea that Lex has discovered Kryptonite too, and that leads into the Justice League film.

Just a thought. I could easily be wrong. Just throwing it out there. It almost seems like Lex Luthor being in this film is too obvious, and I'm not sure WB wants to be that predictable with something this big.


Fine with me if Eisenberg isn't in this movie. :up:

Focus mostly on Superman and Batman....have them be awesome. Fine by me. My anticipation to see Luthor in anything went waaaay down the moment it was announced Jesse Eisenberg was playing him, so I couldn't give much of a **** if he's in the movie or not.
 
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This thread is continuing because?

Someone didn't want to believe that Lex Luthor would be in the movie unless they saw proof. Well now there is proof. I moved to have this thread closed.
 

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