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[Sam Fisher]

Not only did Generations feel like a TNG episode, it felt like one of the mdeiocre episodes. It wasn't even on the level of a good TNG episode, let alone great one.

Long live DS9.

I actually liked Generations despite it's problems{I think it may have been the first Trek movie I saw in theatres too}. In fact, I honestly liked all the TNG movies.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Am I the only one that didn't like DS9 that much{granted I haven't seen that many episodes}?




The tribble episode is great though

Probably. It's the only post-TNG series that was as good in its own way as either of the "main" series to me.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Am I the only one that didn't like DS9 that much{granted I haven't seen that many episodes}?




The tribble episode is great though

Not quite, a lot of people dislike DS9. I myself voted for it as the best, but a lot of common reasons for others hating DS9:

-Being set on a space station with a fixed (for practical purposes, minus the first episode) location violates the entire Star Trek mandate of explore and discover
-Sisko viewed as a poor successor to Picard and Kirk
-Emphasis on spirituality, religion and mysticism, which violated Roddenberry's extremely atheistic bent to Star Trek
-A lot of episodes in the first season were bleah
-An eventual focus on galactic war, which some feel violates the Trek principle of always finding ingenious solutions to all-out armed conflict
-Bajorans and Cardassians viewed as fairly uninteresting races for the show to revolve around

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh yeah, people hated it because it was so dark and bleak at times, too, which also goes against Roddenberry's utopian view of the future. The showrunners' intent was to add some depth to that utopian future by exposing some of the seedy underbelly that must logically exist to keep the utopia going on the surface, leading to extremely harsh moral choices for Sisko, a couple stories centering on racism, and Section 31, the obligatory shady government agency.

 

[Thundarr]

I've been a Star Trek fan since I was a kid. I can't pick one favorite over another. Some episodes of each series were better than others. I even liked to watch the Star Trek cartoon. My favorite DS9 episodes were the ones after the war with The Dominion started. My favorite Voyager episodes were the ones after 7 Of 9 joined the crew. My favorite TNG episodes were the ones that dealt with Klingons. I haven't seen all the Enterprise episodes, but one of my favorites is the one which explains why the Klingons of the Original Series and the Klingons of TNG and the Star Trek movies looked so different (I had always wondered aout that).

 

[The Question]

Well... it is a tough little ship but...


The Enterprise E not only has the best crew evah but it also has just about everything the Defiant has. Prolly not the cloak but that's a weakness in battle if ya ask me.

Yeah, right. The Enterprise E was designed to basically be a traveling military base. Yeah, it has armaments for defense, but it's main purposes are scientific research and moving government and military personnel from point A to point B. The Defiant was made with one purpose in mind, and that is thoroughly killing the **** out of The Borg. Stronger weapons, stronger armor, and a hell of a lot faster and more energy efficient. Only reason the E faired better than The Defiant against the cube in First Contact was because it had the element of surprise and Picard's inside knowledge of The Borg. If anyone else had been commanding it it would have been space scrap.

Oh yeah, people hated it because it was so dark and bleak at times, too, which also goes against Roddenberry's utopian view of the future. The showrunners' intent was to add some depth to that utopian future by exposing some of the seedy underbelly that must logically exist to keep the utopia going on the surface, leading to extremely harsh moral choices for Sisko, a couple stories centering on racism, and Section 31, the obligatory shady government agency.

And, honestly, the underbelly wasn't all that seedy. I mean, how many times in TOS and TNG did the crew lock horns with an admiral of high ranking official of some kind who was just a complete ******* with questionable ethics? That episode in TNG with the McCarthy-esque trial springs to mind. Section 31 was no different. If was just in the intelligence bureau instead of the military and they had more staying power.

 

[Sam Fisher]

 

[Speedball]

I would not trust Michaelangelo to be an engineer... he'll just get pizza sauce all over the core and get distracted by the shiny lights on the screen...

 

[Sam Fisher]

http://tvshowsondvd.com/n/12713

What's this about a original cut of Where No Man Has Gone Before?

 

[C. Lee]

http://tvshowsondvd.com/n/12713

What's this about a original cut of Where No Man Has Gone Before?

Sounds like someone found some alternate takes that were originaly filmed, and have now put them in inplace of the original takes.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I want them.

Oh, and, even though this is a bit old now, I just saw it and thought it was funny:

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I just watched three episodes of the original series, with a young Shatner.

Pretty, pretty, pretty good. I gotta say, I've really liked it so far. It's the first Star Trek I've really been exposed to really. I might have seen clips here, and scenes there of other Trek stuff. But, I really enjoyed the first few episodes of Season One thanks to Netflix.

 

[Immortalfire]

http://www.accessatlanta.com/atlanta-movies/patrick-stewart-of-star-262619.html?cxntlid=thbz_hm

Patrick Stewart is Knighted

LONDON — There's an especially starry knight in Britain's latest round of royal honors.

Patrick Stewart — "Star Trek: The Next Generation's" Capt. Jean-Luc Picard — becomes Sir Patrick in Queen Elizabeth II's New Year honors list

"This is an honor that embraces those actors, directors and creative teams who have in these recent years helped fill my life with inspiration, companionship and sheer fun," said 69-year-old Stewart, who recently returned to the British stage following a long career in Hollywood that included playing Professor Charles Xavier in three "X-Men" films.

 

[GhostPoet]

Sisko was an amazing captain. That is all.

 

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.accessatlanta.com/atlanta-movies/patrick-stewart-of-star-262619.html?cxntlid=thbz_hm

Patrick Stewart is Knighted

That's awesome he totally deserves this .

 

[The Question]

I want them.

Oh, and, even though this is a bit old now, I just saw it and thought it was funny:

I think I'd find this more funny is I'd thought Star Trek XI was actually good. But turns out, I thought it kind of sucked. And the storyline didn't make that much sense.

 

[Immortalfire]

Sisko was an amazing captain. That is all.

"You'd better hope there isn't a next time mister. I have cut you a lot of slack in the past. I even looked away once or twice when I could have come down hard on you, but those days are over. Now we may not get you for selling weapons, but if you so much as litter on the Promenade, I will nail you to the wall!" ~ Sisko to Quark, Business As Usual

 

[Sam Fisher]

Voyager turned 15 last week.

 

[Sawyer]

http://bztv.typepad.com/newsviews/2006/06/spaced_out_star.html

I wonder what a reboot series with JMS at the helm would've been like...

 

[The Question]

http://bztv.typepad.com/newsviews/2006/06/spaced_out_star.html

I wonder what a reboot series with JMS at the helm would've been like...

A reboot? Not sure I would have been up for that, but then JMS is great...

 

[Addendum]

JMS is the only person that could get me to return to Star Trek for more than simple curiosity. Which was why I rented the newest Trek movie.

But I remember hearing about this back in '05.

http://www.jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?id=1-17286&topic=Spiderman

and then the following post script

http://www.jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?id=1-17287&topic=Writing

 

[Superfreak]

I just watched three episodes of the original series, with a young Shatner.

Pretty, pretty, pretty good. I gotta say, I've really liked it so far. It's the first Star Trek I've really been exposed to really. I might have seen clips here, and scenes there of other Trek stuff. But, I really enjoyed the first few episodes of Season One thanks to Netflix.

deprived as a child, I fear for your development

 

[The Navigator]

This one is good also:

http://www.spaceavalanche.com/2009/08/18/star-trek-voyager/

 

[The Question]

Those... aren't very funny.

 

[Doc Ock]

I'm a casual Star Trek fan, not a Trekkie(maybe not yet). I've seen several epsiodes of TNG, DS9, ENT, and VOY but not all of them. I don't like TOS to much.....but I love the TNG films and the 2009 film.