Guardians of the Galaxy Are you considering boycotting GOTG3?

[Kahran Ramsus]

The firing of James Gunn has become quite the political minefield that has divided the fanbase and left a lot of people feeling strong one way or another over whether Disney was right to bend to pressure to fire Gunn.

I'm just interested in seeing how bad things have gotten, so I have a better idea of just how fractured the base is. This thread really isn't really meant for debates as we have other threads for that, but I would like to hear your own personal thoughts of whether it has reached the point that you are seriously considering a boycott of GOTG3 in theaters.

For the purpose of this question, I want you to assume that the critical reception and word of mouth is in the same ballpark as the other films or what is standard for the MCU. Clearly if GOTG3 is getting blasted as being junk that would change things.

So assuming it appears to be the quality of the other two films, what are you planning to do?

Thanks for your input.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

For me, the answer is no. I'm not big on boycotting things for political reasons to begin with. I care about if I think it will be good/entertaining or not.

But aside from that, even though I'm not happy about the whole situation, I don't think Disney had much of a choice given the scrutiny they would be under, especially with the Fox deal coming close to completion. The risks of keeping him on board were far too great, IMO.

But even if I completely disagreed with Disney's decision, it wouldn't impact my choice to see the film or not anyways.

 

[Detective Conan]

No. Though I have to admit I have no dog in this fight since I don’t care for the Guardians movies that much at all(though I do really like some aspects of Vol.2). Gunn may have started the franchise but he isn’t the be-all-end-all authority on it and there are other directors just as good if not better than Gunn who could take up the mantle to direct Vol. 3.

So I go with the old saying, “let sleeping dogs lie” and move on. Marvel Studios will have to move on and so will you.

 

[Grootster]

Probably not necessarily a boycott, but there's a chance that I just won't see it if it looks mediocre. Especially if some of the actors like Chris Pratt don't come back.

I don't like to put filmmakers on a pedestal and say "this person is the only one who can make such-and-such great". Pacific Rim was Del Toro's thing, but I arguably like the sequel better (which was made without Del Toro). Empire Strikes Back was great without Lucas directing.

I don't think Guardians will necessarily be bad with Gunn's absence. I'm sure there are plenty of people who could capture the magic of it, or put their own equally good spin on it. I just want a good end result.

 

[writer0327]

Boycotting a movie is pointless to me. If you think you're sending a message to the powers that be, you're fooling yourself. All you're doing is depriving yourself of a great film and entertainment experience.

 

[Grootster]

Boycotting a movie is pointless to me. If you think you're sending a message to the powers that be, you're fooling yourself. All you're doing is depriving yourself of a great film and entertainment experience.

Not necessarily. When you're dealing with a corporation, voting with your wallet makes more of an impact than things like petitions and protests. If enough people skip Guardians 2, it might cause Disney to think before firing talented filmmakers in the future.

 

[Detective Conan]

I will say that out of all of the Marvel directors(sans Coogler and maybe the Russos) Gunn definitely has a strong authorial stamp on the Guardians films. They’re brilliant in that regard since there are very clearly Gunn’s vision through and through. Whoever they get to replace Gunn(assuming they still move forward with Vol. 3) it just won’t be the same.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Probably not necessarily a boycott, but there's a chance that I just won't see it if it looks mediocre. Especially if some of the actors like Chris Pratt don't come back.

Pratt is the one I think they need to get. Groot and Rocket are CGI characters that could chance voice actors, and while I would miss the others, I don't think they are completely necessary. But if they don't have Pratt, I find it hard to justify even doing the film at all. It really depends on him.

 

[Grootster]

Pratt is the one I think they need to get. Groot and Rocket are CGI characters that could chance voice actors, and while I would miss the others, I don't think they are completely necessary. But if they don't have Pratt, I find it hard to justify even doing the film at all. It really depends on him.

I really can't see any of the actors not returning. It's easy for an actors to say they're not coming back unless so-and-so directs (I don't think any of the GOTG actors have said this yet anyway), but the paycheck is probably too big to really justify leaving. Most of the main ones are probably under contract anyway.

 

[Brutikus]

Not worried about Gunn being fired as far as how a GOTG3 film would be so go see it for sure.

As for the cast my understanding is there's contracts in place so cast are not able to not be in it unless they want to break that contract.

 

[TheVileOne]

No. Something much more catastrophic would have to happen. Like Josh Trank or Simon Kinberg get the job

It saddens me that Gunn is gone and won't be able to finish his trilogy. However, I will still see the film provided it looks good and all the original cast is back.

Sorry guys but these characters and these franchises are bigger than just one man. It's always been that way, even in the comics. Some great creators work on these characters but sometimes they grow beyond them.

Thor was totally reinvigorated by a new director. I'm not saying Guardians was in desperate need of one, but I will keep an open mind that another director can still do at least a decent job. Hopefully, it's not Brett Ratner.

 

[Zarex]

Unless Disney fixes this - and until Feige speaks I think there's a chance - my enthusiasm for the third installment will be severely diminished. I'll see it like I have all the MCU movies. But it won't be in the theater.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Nope.


The karmic comeuppance of a possible molester (who made some entertaining MCU films) will not keep me from finishing up the cosmic adventures of the GOTG.

 

[Zarex]

Nope.


The karmic comeuppance of a possible molester (who made some entertaining MCU films) will not keep me from finishing up the cosmic adventures of the GOTG.

Calling him a "possible molester" is far more disgusting than anything Gunn has done.

 

[Detective Conan]

Nope.


The karmic comeuppance of a possible molester (who made some entertaining MCU films) will not keep me from finishing up the cosmic adventures of the GOTG.

Calling a guy who only did a couple of tasteless jokes about pedophilia a potential molester is a bit much. I mean this isn't Roy Moore we're talking about here.

 

[Frodo]

For me, the answer is no. I'm not big on boycotting things for political reasons to begin with. I care about if I think it will be good/entertaining or not.

But aside from that, even though I'm not happy about the whole situation, I don't think Disney had much of a choice given the scrutiny they would be under, especially with the Fox deal coming close to completion. The risks of keeping him on board were far too great, IMO.

But even if I completely disagreed with Disney's decision, it wouldn't impact my choice to see the film or not anyways.

My answer is no as well. I pretty much agree with you on you're other points as well.

I could see some fans who are angry enough to boycott GOTG 3 but then again it depends on how long a lot of fans are willing to continue to protest Gunn's firing .

The next film may be a couple years off anyway and that's quite awhile to hold on to a grudge and follow through with not seeing the film when it is eventually released.

If the film was coming out this fall , momentum for a boycott would be stronger , but if the film is still a year or more away, in internet time, that's a decade.

By then , a lot fanboys will have moved on to fighting each about something else and other will still go to see GOTG3.

 

[Gee]

 

[Webfoot Hero]

No way. Only way I wouldn't see it is if it looked bad but even then I'd likely still go just because it's part of the MCU.

 

[Web-Head]

No way. I'll be there opening night, hopefully that's still April 31 2020

 

[SomeOldGuy]

I’ll probably see it at some point, but my enthusiasm level for the third installment has dropped to nil right now.

 

[Raiden]

Given that I wasn't too enamored with GOTG Vol. 2, I hope they will find a director like Taika who can reinvigorate the franchise. However, I do fear the worse since the GOTG universe is too attached to James Gunn's vision, and someone else may take it to a new direction that fans will not accept or fond of. In the end, I'll still go see it, but will the cast be willing to return sans Gunn?

 

[NotNickFury]

No...but then, I didn't see Vol. 2 in theaters anyway, so whoever directs Vol. 3 isn't a make or break decision for me.

 

[Mysteryman]

No. Something much more catastrophic would have to happen. Like Josh Trank or Simon Kinberg get the job

It saddens me that Gunn is gone and won't be able to finish his trilogy. However, I will still see the film provided it looks good and all the original cast is back.

Sorry guys but these characters and these franchises are bigger than just one man. It's always been that way, even in the comics. Some great creators work on these characters but sometimes they grow beyond them.

Thor was totally reinvigorated by a new director. I'm not saying Guardians was in desperate need of one, but I will keep an open mind that another director can still do at least a decent job. Hopefully, it's not Brett Ratner.

Perfectly Said!

 

[Nardz937]

There are going to be people boycotting that he isn't.

There are going to be people boycotting if he does.

It was a no win situation, but it is what it is now. For me, I'm not boycotting it. I'll see it if it looks good, period.

 

[Yowza]

I think the excitement level going down is always going to prevent people from going more than an actual boycott ever would. Most people still want to hope for something good hence don't want to boycott and are still interested through lingering hope.

For me, the answer is no. I'm not big on boycotting things for political reasons to begin with. I care about if I think it will be good/entertaining or not.

But aside from that, even though I'm not happy about the whole situation, I don't think Disney had much of a choice given the scrutiny they would be under, especially with the Fox deal coming close to completion. The risks of keeping him on board were far too great, IMO.

But even if I completely disagreed with Disney's decision, it wouldn't impact my choice to see the film or not anyways.

I thought the same thing about the shareholder vote but question if this has any influence if at all in terms of firing James Gunn to look good for the shareholder vote as I question to what extent not firing James Gunn would alter it at all.

If anything, it's the top level bigwigs in Disney who feel the heat under the collar. Someone like Bob Iger (not running for presidential election now it seems) and Alan Horne certainly don't want negative media attention saying they somehow condone this sort of thing. It's to personally look good more than anything it seems to me; men of business feeling they have no choice.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=543819&page=10

Disney is between a rock and a hard place here. He wasn't fired because reasonable, intelligent, rational people, thinking about the context of his statements, would react negatively.

He was fired because less reasonable, intelligent rational people who get up in arms over the inflammatory phrases used in his tweets would react accordingly. They pretty had to get out in front of this. Even a reasonable person would likely be given some pause confronted with some of the things he said...extreme humor aside.

Any CEO in this situation takes the path of least resistance usually. Those that don't, the media just circulates shade simply by reporting on it and the vortex of contextualization sucks everything in as people's perceptions are circulated around as well then it's all just negative controversy.

I don't like to put filmmakers on a pedestal and say "this person is the only one who can make such-and-such great". Pacific Rim was Del Toro's thing, but I arguably like the sequel better (which was made without Del Toro). Empire Strikes Back was great without Lucas directing.

I don't think Guardians will necessarily be bad with Gunn's absence. I'm sure there are plenty of people who could capture the magic of it, or put their own equally good spin on it. I just want a good end result.

I'd agree... If this was after the 3rd movie that this happened.

Good end result will be a decent imitation at this point unless they throw out the script and re-work it completely taking another couple years. Still though, the characterizations Gunn was utilizing was new territory going in-line with the script-writing and other duties he was filling besides director to mesh it all together. An imitation much like re-boots is going to ring hollow it seems to me unless they steer things in a different direction which is kind of hard to do with this happening at the time it has preceding the 3rd movie completing the "album" as James Gun put it.

Given that I wasn't too enamored with GOTG Vol. 2, I hope they will find a director like Taika who can reinvigorate the franchise. However, I do fear the worse since the GOTG universe is too attached to James Gunn's vision, and someone else may take it to a new direction that fans will not accept or fond of. In the end, I'll still go see it, but will the cast be willing to return sans Gunn?

I wasn't really necessarily attached to James Gunn's vision the most either but it's what the cosmic franchise needs to steer from the precedent set by the previous 2. After the 3rd one, I think things will open up a bit more.

After reading few things on pgs. 5 and 6 of this thread http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=543775&page=5 I am increasingly thinking that Taika's rendition would just kind of come off hollow.