Are you lost?

[Valerie_f4]

I have no idea why the story line got all buggered, someone please tell me what going on. I have begun to loose hope on this show.

 

[GL1]

Arthur Petrelli is the villain. His current motivations are unclear, but he's assembling certain people for something big. The Company, and the independent heroes are all over the place, so its hard to really pin any of them down into a storyline.

 

[chaseter]

I have no idea why the story line got all buggered, someone please tell me what going on. I have begun to loosehope on this show.

How is this season any harder to understand than the first? To me, it is more dumbed down.

 

[GL1]

This season is not consistent in its character portrayals, pacing or themes. That makes it hard to understand for people who examine things.

 

[chaseter]

This season is not consistent in its character portrayals, pacing or themes. That makes it hard to understand for people who examine things.

No, that makes it hard for people to understand things that relate it too much to Season 1. Things change, characters change, themes change, etc.

 

[marukisu]

...

 

[Havok83]

I get lost when watchign every season. For me things dont really start to make sense till the very end and watching the entire season back to back when its released on DVD rather than with breaks that last weeks makes things alot easier to understand and remember. Im really not likign this season as it feels disjointed and confusing, but Im sure that will work itself out when I get to watch the whole thing on bluray

 

[chaseter]

i think people are more focusing on the way it cahnged.

if you look at Mohinder and Sylar it makes no sense why they are acting that way. The reasons behind it are hard to swallow and it was done within the course of a minute. Its almost like someone being your friend for 5 years and they treat you like **** out of nowhere one day and continue to do it.

And their day will come The good thing is...they are listening to fans. Not many tv shows do that.

 

[Gilpesh]

The good thing is...they are listening to fans.

That's not a good thing.

 

[chaseter]

That's not a good thing.

Then why complain

 

[Gilpesh]

Then why complain

Fine... I'll amend that.

The fans that they happen to be listening to... makes them listening to fans, a bad thing.

 

[chaseter]

Fine... I'll amend that.

The fans that they happen to be listening to... makes them listening to fans, a bad thing.

They got rid of Maya And furthermore...they can't please everybody.

 

[GL1]

No, that makes it hard for people to understand things that relate it too much to Season 1. Things change, characters change, themes change, etc.

Things are changing inexplicably, and quickly so. In most shows, especially Dramas, things like motivation and cause and effect make logical sense. If it does not, then the storyline is 'buggered.' That's bad storytelling and its hard for many people, especially new fans, to understand. It's actually a lot easier to understand for people who understand how these characters 'should' act, or what might cause them to act in new ways as opposed to the ridiculous causes given in the show.

Some people don't care. They just want action and excitement, or take each scene, episode, season or character on its own as opposed to looking at the big picture. Of course the storyline wouldn't confuse them, because all they care about is seeing their fave characters do cool stuff.

Listening to fans is ALWAYS a good idea.

Obeying fans is not. A writer, and especially a producer, who gets paid to do this, needs to know what fan suggests are workable and what are not. They need to have a sense for when its a good idea to give fans something they don't expect, didn't ask for, but will love anyway. They have to know when to surprise fans, not with shock endings and twists, but with brand new directions for characters and storylines... ones that make sense, are planned out and built up to. Listening to fans gives you feedback, and you get to know the types of things your fans will not accept, and the things they love. That doesn't mean that you give them what they love, on the contrary, playing with the things they love can hook them deeper into the show. You fans not accepting something doesn't mean you never do it, it means that you only use it as a shock/revulsion tactic, and use that hate to reel the fans deeper into the universe.

Listening to fans, ALL fans is always a good idea. Showmakers have to know what to do with that information, though. These guys don't seem to.

 

[chaseter]

ALL fans do not agree and it is therefore pointless to try and please everyone. There are purists, there are fanboys, and then there are the average fans. Pleasing all of those will never happen and it is a pipe dream to think that. Not everyone in here will agree on what this show is missing. Hell, some people didn't even like aspects of Season 1 and everyone holds that to the highest degree.

 

[Gilpesh]

ALL fans do not agree and it is therefore pointless to try and please everyone.

So you think Heroes should continue to ruin good characters for the sake of certain fan's favorite characters?

 

[chaseter]

So you think Heroes should continue to ruin good characters for the sake of certain fan's favorite characters?

So you think they should listen to you instead of the majority?

 

[Gilpesh]

So you think they should listen to you instead of the majority?

I think the writers... should have stayed on their track for where the series was going... instead of bending to pressure.

 

[chaseter]

I think the writers... should have stayed on their track for where the series was going... instead of bending to pressure.

And I will agree with you on that

 

[Gilpesh]

And I will agree with you on that

Group hug!

 

[chaseter]

Group hug!

*pushes down *****

 

[Image]

i think people are more focusing on the way it cahnged.

if you look at Mohinder and Sylar it makes no sense why they are acting that way. The reasons behind it are hard to swallow and it was done within the course of a minute. Its almost like someone being your friend for 5 years and they treat you like **** out of nowhere one day and continue to do it.

Well as far as Mohinder, maybe havign taken the serum not only changed him so that now he has an ability and of course physical appearance, but his way of thinking and actions as well. Not like he himself decided to just be a jerk.

 

[chaseter]

Spiders are extremely territorial so who knows.

 

[Valerie_f4]

Spider? I thought it was a "the fly" throwback. LOL
I think i got hopeless with the show after they split the heroes with villians. Sylar is supposed to be bad, they make him different adding to his character. And they do a half***** plot juggling by adding useless info. So it appears they had a idea, but puked it up all at once.

 

[chaseter]

I think Mohinder is a Spider. Flies don't catch prey and cocoon them up. Plus HRG said maybe he was building a nest but who knows. It is Fly-esque though as far as the similarities between that movie and the show.