Arnold Is Back for Terminator 5

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Rise of the Machines was the movie I liked the least so they can ignore that

I don't think Rise of the Machines was a horribly bad movie BUT it does take a bit more effort on one's part to actually see why it isn't. Neither the Terminator nor John Connor character were the same and it was missing one of the staples from the previous two titles, Sarah Connor. Also, the new female Terminator was just too much sex appeal. We've all seen **** and ass before, no need to point it out for the 100 thousandth time - thanks anyway.

Different John Connor, no Sarah Connor, and a swift jolt of gratuitous T & A had fans of the first two thinking - this isn't Terminator. Why these cyborgs apparently keep getting older each time they come back is also another problem that had people thinking Rise of the Machines was the final nail in the Terminator series.

That said, stand alone, the story of Rise of the Machines isn't a bad one in my opinion. Most who had seen either of the first two cannot see that, like I said, because of a few very large surface level errors in regards to every character.
 
Funny thing is though, we heard all of this talk about the movie "being more in line in terms on tone with the first 2 movies" with Salvation, and in the end, it ended up being no better than T3 for me.

So Lin saying it, when he has never directed a movie even close to the greatness of the first 2 movies, doesnt fill me with confidence at all.
 
Do we really need a third post T2 Cannon.

1:T3 and Salvation
2:The Sarah Connor Chronicles
3:This one

I will get bashed for this but we don't need Sarah Connor.They need to focus more on
John Connor.Anyway If this Is made It will be another time travel to present day story.
 
what ? there was a lot of information in that article.

You freaked out over me saying that Latino Review could have been wrong. And here comes an article where Lin says basically "No, that original cast is returning rumor isn't true."

Any questions?
 
i am asking what did you say days ago that was in this article. thank you.

and Latino Review had inside information from peole who have connections inside the studios.
Lin said what every director,actor,producer with a brain would say. '' no''.
 
I don't think Rise of the Machines was a horribly bad movie BUT it does take a bit more effort on one's part to actually see why it isn't. Neither the Terminator nor John Connor character were the same and it was missing one of the staples from the previous two titles, Sarah Connor. Also, the new female Terminator was just too much sex appeal. We've all seen **** and ass before, no need to point it out for the 100 thousandth time - thanks anyway.

Different John Connor, no Sarah Connor, and a swift jolt of gratuitous T & A had fans of the first two thinking - this isn't Terminator. Why these cyborgs apparently keep getting older each time they come back is also another problem that had people thinking Rise of the Machines was the final nail in the Terminator series.

That said, stand alone, the story of Rise of the Machines isn't a bad one in my opinion. Most who had seen either of the first two cannot see that, like I said, because of a few very large surface level errors in regards to every character.

I watched T3 again just there and I have to say, the more I watch it, I soften towards it. I don't think it's a bad film, it just feels a little rushed at times. There's no real effort to find an emotional core, either between John and the T-101 or between John and Kate. There's no sense of traumatic impending doom either like there was in T1 and 2.

But as you said, the story isn't bad at all, and the ending is one of my favourite moments throughout the whole franchise.

After this latest viewing, Nick Stahl's performance doesn't irritate me at all anymore. John is still young enough in this film, and without the reassuring presence of his mother, it's understandable that he has fallen into denial and hesitance in regards to his destiny.
 
I finished reading the T2 comics, Cybernetic Dawn and Nuclear Twilight, both for the first time and loved them. Cybernetic Dawn would've absolutely been the perfect T3 to have done back then and Nuclear Twilight would still work as the basis for T5. If you've never read these two comics, I highly recommend them. I haven't read a lot of Terminator comics so far, but I have to say so far these are definitely the best, IMO. Cybernetic Dawn actually left me wishing we could've gotten a Cameron-directed T3 back in the mid-90s, it was like something he would've done.
 
"We're talking to different studios, but it has to be the right situation. If it's not right, then I could totally move on and I should move on. Probably in the next three or four weeks, I'll have a very clear picture [of what my next movie will be].".....

IF by two months nothing happens with finding a studio,I bet Lin will move right away to Fast Six and this deal will fall apart!!,We'll be reading articles reading"Lin pulls out of T5,Arnold focusing on other movies and the franchise's future is unwritten"!



Fast Six should be in production next year. I don't even think there is a script for T5. It don't think T5 will be Lin's next film and the future of Terminator still seems cloudy.
 
http://www.deadline.com/2011/05/lio...negger-and-fast-fives-justin-lin/#more-130279

Lionsgate, Megan Ellison In Battle For 'Terminator' With Arnold Schwarzenegger And 'Fast Five's Justin Lin

EXCLUSIVE: A high-stakes battle is being waged for the right to relaunch The Terminator, with Fast Five helmer Justin Lin attached to direct and Arnold Schwarzenegger attached to reprise his signature role in one of filmdom’s most iconic franchises. Yesterday, it looked like Lionsgate would win the property with an outright purchase, with an upfront payment of at least half of the $29.5 million that Pacificor spent to claim the property in a bankruptcy auction. That was until Megan Ellison and her Annapurna Films came in with a bid that was higher. They are now fighting it out. As she usually does when she commits to a film, Ellison is staking that amount without having a distributor locked in place.

As Deadline revealed late last month, CAA brought out the package to the town, the first real activity on The Terminator project since February 2010, when the property emerged from a bankruptcy auction and into the possession of Pacificor. While there were several dealmaking scenarios offered, including an option and first dollar gross fees, it's understandable why an outright purchase would be most attractive to the rights holders.

The Santa Barbara-based hedge fund posted a bid of $29.5 million, with the promise that additional multimillion-dollar payments for each film would go to Halcyon, the company that made the 2009 McG-directed Terminator Salvation. That’s a lot of money to lay out for an extended period of time, with interest costs rising.

I'm told that the deal will close shortly, and that the project could become another hot Schwarzenegger title at the Cannes Film Festival market that's just getting underway. It would be the third Schwarzenegger movie there. Lionsgate also has Schwarzenegger in the action film The Last Stand, set up as the English language debut of Kim–ji-Woon. Schwarzenegger is also at the center of a QED-funded project that Schwarzenegger is also attached to star in, Cry Macho. Lionsgate has long been interested in extending the James Cameron-created universe of Skynet, John and Sara Connor, and the indestructible cyborgs. In fact, when Halcyon ran out of money and went into bankruptcy, Pacificor beat out a combined bid by Lionsgate and Sony planning to make back-to-back sequels to bring the franchise to a natural creative conclusion.

As for Ellison, this is a big surprise. She has shown a willingness to back projects by prestige filmmakers, funding not only the Paul Thomas Anderson pic that was just bought for worldwide distribution by The Weinstein Company, but also the Kathryn Bigelow-Mark Boal drama about the hunt and capture of Al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden, which is also being auctioned at the moment by Ellison's reps at CAA. Why would she veer from prestige pictures? Maybe she is looking for a franchise that could give her a better chance to make some money back on her multi-million dollar investment.

Whether it's Lionsgate or Annapurna, they face the same timing issues. There is a stipulation in copyright law that if you assign your rights, you get them back in 35 years. In this case, Cameron assigned his rights to Hemdale, and the North American rights will revert back to him in 2018. Now, Cameron has more or less washed his hands of the Terminator franchise, but I'm told a new deal would have to be made with him if the plan was to keep making Terminator installments beyond that period. Franchise hungry Lionsgate will have to work with Lin—who’ll be back to direct another in The Fast and the Furious franchise, but there’s no reason Lionsgate, Lin and Schwarzenegger shouldn’t be able to make at least two pictures before then.
 
My ideal Terminator 3 would have been a straight prequel to Terminator 1 set in the future. Salvation was closer to what I had in mind that T3, but it still had the misfortune of having to use Terminator 3's timeline for its background. Making sense of the Terminator timeline is a big mess because they still haven't made up their mind whether the story is in a loop or a branching timeline, and that just makes for a huge mess. Sarah Connor Chronicles was at least smart enough to make up its mind firmly about how time travel works (the time loop was broken in Terminator 2, and they are now on a branching timeline that changes every time someone travels back), and as such it rejected T3 from its timeline.
 
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MEGAN ELLISON AM BECOME SKYNET, FINANCIER OF FILMS

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Megan Ellison’s name has been popping up a lot lately, as she’s gotten involved with Paul Thomas Anderson, John Hillcoat, The Coens, Kathryn Bigelow and reportedly Charlie Kaufman. That’s a serious block of filmmakers, the films of which I can’t help but label mostly as “good-ass movies.” She keeps doing these cool things and shaking up Hollywood (I really wish she would do her Vanity Fair spread or whatever the **** already, so there’d be a decent, arty picture of her out there), and now she’s apparently sealed the deal on the franchise acquisition that’s been rumored a couple of days- she’s done gone and bought Terminator.

The prestige-cinema one-woman Skynet thing is an easy joke, but the image of her flying across the world to Cannes to sign for that franchise while taking calls about all the stellar project she’s got going on over here- it works.

She’s won a bidding war for the rights to a pair of feature Terminator films, with Justin Lin (current Fast & Furious maestro) and Arnold Schwarzenegger part of the deal, and Fleming @ Deadline presumes this is something close to a $20m deal. She had still competition from Lionsgate, but apparently she swung the proverbial billionaire dick and took the prize. The franchise still needs a new distributor, so there will probably be a nasty battle over those rights as well. The franchise still piques interest at the studios, and it seems Arnold’s return is considered a huge asset. They’re probably right.

Keep in mind this is for the opportunity to produce films that continue the current canon- no remake plans. With money changing hands and deals being signed at the high-end financial level, one presumes work will begin on the next film soon. Justin Lin hopes to keep up with the intensely successful Fast Integer franchise as well, so we’ll see how scheduling shakes out, and when we can expect this thing to start filming.
 
"Keep in mind this is for the opportunity to produce films that continue the current canon- no remake plans.".....So this officially means it'll most likely take place after Salvation!?!?,I've said it before that I don't mind this and never wanted T3 or Salvation to be scrapped even if some people hate them.
 
"Keep in mind this is for the opportunity to produce films that continue the current canon- no remake plans.".....So this officially means it'll most likely take place after Salvation!?!?,I've said it before that I don't mind this and never wanted T3 or Salvation to be scrapped even if some people hate them.

They can probably just as easily forget them, however I'm with you, Luis. I think they should continue the continuity. It's not like the actors from Salvation were horrible anyway. Bale deserves to see Connor through. And Yelchin deserves to continue the Kyle Reese he portrayed.
 
Fast Five director Justin Lin suggests he's thinking of bringing back Sarah Connor
http://www.moviehole.net/201144420-...out-the-furious-franchise-terminator-and-more
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And there’s going to be a way to resurrect Sarah Connor. I’m missing Sarah Connor.

Lin: I mean, Sarah Connor is such a big part of the franchise, you know. Yeah, I mean I've always been surprised how in part 3 she was just like… It was like one line and she was gone.

She was dead, yeah, yeah. It was insulting, yeah.
Lin: Yeah, like leukemia and… But I think the great thing about this franchise is you have… You can actually have different canons because you have the element of time travel. So, there's a way of kind of respecting all the works but also able to create a new time line.

That's right. You can go back and right the wrongs.
Lin: Yes.
 
I really liked Salvation.

I've liked all the Terminator movies, T3 was a solid movie, only reason it dissapointed was it basically tried to do the same thing as T2...and it came out at a time when the franchise almost waited too long.
 
Not sure how they'll try and fit Sarah Connor in, but it will be interesting.
 
Hype is acting all kinds of weird tonight.
 
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I am interested to see what Lin can bring to this, I don't think it should just revert back to being set in our present day with two Terminators battling it out in a chase movie format.

I also wonder whether; when he talks about bringing Sarah Connor back, he means Linda Hamilton, or just the character.
 
Machines age?

The only way I see this working is if they meet the human that the Terminator was modeled after. Because lets face it...he is old and out of shape.

it's a cybernetic organism, with living tissue underneath a metallic shell, i have no issues with the actual flesh aging on a terminator, if it's job was to infiltrate the human base, i would see it needing to age in order to fulfill a long term mission, especially if it was a sleeper cell.

i get the impression the terminator that ends up killing john connor in the future was a long life sleeper cell one.
 
as some sort of sick twist, i would like to see sarah connor actually ending up working with skynet against john connor in the future.

going from being humanity's last line of defence, she would end up being skynet's as she eventually comes to understand the light.

although i wouldn't mind having what happened in the chronicle diaries with the anticipation that skynet would eventually set a war out against its own kind and terminators and human's alike would wage war on a new frontier of cybernetic lifeforms.
 
Salvation sucked so hard, on so many levels. I'm glad McG seems to be struggling for work since, because he lied constantly to sell that piece of ****e he excreted into cinemas; and I am genuinely baffled that anyone could watch it.

I have little hope for another film, especially with this director. That said, it could work out and I'm happy with the franchise star jumping back.

I would be interested to see a relationship between the battle hardened John Connor and an aged, human Arnie. It is the most significant face in Connor's life, and pretty much the only emotional throughline in the series.
 
Lin just doesnt give me confidence that he can produce a good Terminator film, I just dont get why they keep going for the type of directers like McG and him when they arent capable of shining Cameron's boots, go for someone who has a chance of producing an amazing film, someone like Duncan Jones, Neill Blomkamp, Rupert Wyatt or Matthew Vaughn.
 
maybe MCG and Lin are the only type directors who want to make a terminator movie. maybe other directors respect Cameron enough to understand that this is his franchise and that only Cameron should do new movies. and if he says that its over its over. maybe.
 
Lin just doesnt give me confidence that he can produce a good Terminator film, I just dont get why they keep going for the type of directers like McG and him when they arent capable of shining Cameron's boots, go for someone who has a chance of producing an amazing film, someone like Duncan Jones, Neill Blomkamp, Rupert Wyatt or Matthew Vaughn.
they should do a superhero movie. their scifi movies should be original . look at D9 and Source Code
 
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