Atheism: Love it or Leave it? - Part 4

[Thundercrack85]

Not that I'm aware of. We can't clone dinosaurs, lack the DNA. We could perhaps reconstruct them using genetic engineering in the future, but that would be an imitation, not a clone.

Jurassic Park's mosquito idea was cool, but we haven't found any in real life. A single mosquito also wouldn't have the DNA of many dinosaurs, since they lived in very different areas (hell most of the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park didn't live in the Jurassic period, so they existed millions of years apart).

That's right, the T. rex didn't exist in the Jurassic period.

We can however clone some very cool ice age animals. They're working on cloning a mammoth. Which is awesome.

 

[Lighthouse]

I think we've taken the Flintstone thing a little far.

 

[enterthemadness]

Not that I'm aware of. We can't clone dinosaurs, lack the DNA. We could perhaps reconstruct them using genetic engineering in the future, but that would be an imitation, not a clone.

Jurassic Park's mosquito idea was cool, but we haven't found any in real life. A single mosquito also wouldn't have the DNA of many dinosaurs, since they lived in very different areas (hell most of the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park didn't live in the Jurassic period, so they existed millions of years apart).

That's right, the T. rex didn't exist in the Jurassic period.

We can however clone some very cool ice age animals. They're working on cloning a mammoth. Which is awesome.

Why we gotta clone stuff... Mammoth burgers.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I think we've taken the Flintstone thing a little far.

Well if you want to bring it back, imagine a creationist reaction to us cloning a neanderthal.

 

[8wid]

Why is it illegal to preserve the brains of the dead in good condition and then clone them a whole new body to bring them back to live? Experiments on Orangutans show it's completely possible for at least a short time.

 

[enterthemadness]

Why is it illegal to preserve the brains of the dead in good condition and then clone them a whole new body to bring them back to live? Experiments on Orangutans show it's completely possible for at least a short time.

Religious people...'YOU ARE PLAYING GOD'

 

[8wid]

I wish some liberal progressive would get up and overturn that ban. It may be possible to do this and to have humans live for centuries, especially if entire bodies can be grown from stem cells. No one is saying that have to clone themselves after they die. They go want to go to Heaven if they want while we out live them a hundred years.

 

[enterthemadness]

I wish some liberal progressive would get up and overturn that ban. It may be possible to do this and to have humans live for centuries, especially if entire bodies can be grown from stem cells. No one is saying that have to clone themselves after they die. They go want to go to Heaven if they want while we out live them a hundred years.

If you got the money then I guess why not....?

 

[8wid]

The world is eventually going to be like the movie The Sixth Day we might as well start looking at the consequences of it now. Wait until that is paid for with universal healthcare and is considered a human right.

 

[enterthemadness]

The world is eventually going to be like the movie The Sixth Day we might as well start looking at the consequences of it now. Wait until that is paid for with universal healthcare and is considered a human right.

thanks for ruining Sixth Day for me bro...

 

[Thundercrack85]

The robots will kill us all anyway.

Now that'll be interesting. Robots and religion.

 

[enterthemadness]

The robots will kill us all anyway.

Now that'll be interesting. Robots and religion.

see Futurama.

I call Bender. He'll save me...or steal my stuff.

 

[8wid]

As an atheist I think it's immoral to keep seriously perpetuating the idea that ghosts, God, and other aspects of the paranormal for which there is no evidence for in science or is at all likely to be. This is why when I do creative writing I find myself feeling guilty about writing stories with ghosts, witches, Greek monsters, when it's not just informing and educating people about the perception of these elements in literature because I know I am essentially lying to people about the idea that these things exist when they don't and I know most of my audience is not going to be educated enough to think critically about it being real or not, so it's just as bad to me. To me keeping the idea that the paranormal and supernatural is literally real just makes society worse. Anyone else have a similar dilemma?

 

[Piper Maru]

Most of the people I know believe in the paranormal/supernatural. Some of them are pretty serious about it, and get pretty upset when I show some skepticism about it. I never quite understand why. Don't get me wrong I love stories about the strange and unknown, but I realize that they're stories. But some of the supposed true tales from my friends are really out there.

BTW 8wid, where can I read your stories if you don't mind my asking.

 

[enterthemadness]

As an atheist I think it's immoral to keep seriously perpetuating the idea that ghosts, God, and other aspects of the paranormal for which there is no evidence for in science or is at all likely to be. This is why when I do creative writing I find myself feeling guilty about writing stories with ghosts, witches, Greek monsters, when it's not just informing and educating people about the perception of these elements in literature because I know I am essentially lying to people about the idea that these things exist when they don't and I know most of my audience is not going to be educated enough to think critically about it being real or not, so it's just as bad to me. To me keeping the idea that the paranormal and supernatural is literally real just makes society worse. Anyone else have a similar dilemma?

Well...it would be interesting if we could find a way to communicate with cats and dogs. Like via a machine hooked up to their head (that's safe) and it could translate their thoughts to English--granted I think I thought of a Simpsons episode where that silly scientists did that. Why? So we could finally know what the hell they see that we can't that spooks them out or has their attention. When my cats look O_O past me staring into the hallway or my room, and nothing I can see is there, but they still O_O, I almost feel like saying out loud 'You better check yourself, before you wreck yourself, Ghost ' Of course cats and dogs could just be seeing a **** load of dust or a tiny spider or some ****...

 

[Thundercrack85]

I'm an atheist. A fairly outspoken one, I think most would agree, but I've seen some allegedly haunted places I wouldn't stay the night if you paid me.

 

[enterthemadness]

Most of the people I know believe in the paranormal/supernatural. Some of them are pretty serious about it, and get pretty upset when I show some skepticism about it. I never quite understand why. Don't get me wrong I love stories about the strange and unknown, but I realize that they're stories. But some of the supposed true tales from my friends are really out there.

BTW 8wid, where can I read your stories if you don't mind my asking.

I lived in a haunted house...but I have no solid proof it was haunted...my sister heard ****, my mom saw things, my sister while pregnant was on a kitchen counter and was falling backwards and *someone* pushed her back up...but no one was in kitchen...

But I can't say for sure it's haunted...although if Ghosts are real, and if I became a Ghost, I be the Dane Cook of Ghosts. Like this..

ETM Ghost: I'm drinking your Coors Light! *drinks some* tastes like ****. *pours all of the Coors Light bottles down drain*
Man: ...*calls exorcist*
Me: I'm outta here in my 5.0

If ghosts were real, I'd like to think **** like that would be happening...

 

[enterthemadness]

I'm an atheist. A fairly outspoken one, I think most would agree, but I've seen some allegedly haunted places I wouldn't stay the night if you paid me.

Thee was this cruise liner that people died on...or it was a war ship I forget...but it got converted into a docked hotel I believe...I'll stay there...I be acting like I didn't what 2+2 was just to start ****, just to ''see'' if it's haunted.

I even yell COME AT ME BRO....in bottom of the ship. Which is suppose to be super haunted and creepy. Boiler room...

 

[Thundercrack85]

The RMS Queen Mary.

They say a ghost haunts the buffet.

 

[enterthemadness]

The RMS Queen Mary.

They say a ghost haunts the buffet.

If I were there and I heard noise and saw weird crap while eating, I'll tell it to go off somewhere...tell me more about this.

almost as bad as a fat man's ghost haunting a Chinese buffet.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

All this talk about the supernatural made me wish it were real. All I can do is hope that the universe is very much larger than the observable universe or there is an omniverse and that somewhere, someone with an indistinguishable life from my own is fighting monsters alongside Sam and Dean Winchester.


*sigh*

EDIT- That would also technically give everyone eternal life. And that's cool too.

 

[NateHevens]

Eddie Murphy talks about horror movies. It's from Delirious...

I actually have a criticism about ghosts that no one ever thinks of, yet if you think about it, it makes perfect sense...

Ghosts are supposed to be the essence/soul of a once-dead person.

Now, I think we can agree that inanimate objects, especially artificial objects, do not have souls, right?

So why in the hell are ghosts always wearing clothes?!? It literally does not make any sense. It violates the definition of what a ghost is supposed to be. It's stupid.

Hence, I think the vast majority of ghost-sighting stories can be dismissed for that reason alone to be honest.

The only way a ghost could be wearing clothes is if it's a poltergeist that can interact with the physical world. Otherwise, ghosts should technically be naked. Clothes do not have souls, so there is no way they could travel over with the dead human's soul.

 

[enterthemadness]

All this talk about the supernatural made me wish it were real. All I can do is hope that the universe is very much larger than the observable universe or there is an omniverse and that somewhere, someone with an indistinguishable life from my own is fighting monsters alongside Sam and Dean Winchester.


*sigh*

EDIT- That would also technically give everyone eternal life. And that's cool too.

Valhalla bro.

Although one could say it doens't exsist and was used to get soldiers ready for combat.
Like hey, you might die today, but it's cool, there's Valhalla on other side'

come at me bro, come at me zombies.

Eddie Murphy talks about horror movies. It's from Delirious...

I actually have a criticism about ghosts that no one ever thinks of, yet if you think about it, it makes perfect sense...

Ghosts are supposed to be the essence/soul of a once-dead person.

Now, I think we can agree that inanimate objects, especially artificial objects, do not have souls, right?

So why in the hell are ghosts always wearing clothes?!? It literally does not make any sense. It violates the definition of what a ghost is supposed to be. It's stupid.

Hence, I think the vast majority of ghost-sighting stories can be dismissed for that reason alone to be honest.

The only way a ghost could be wearing clothes is if it's a poltergeist that can interact with the physical world. Otherwise, ghosts should technically be naked. Clothes do not have souls, so there is no way they could travel over with the dead human's soul.

Well, if a person dies in their clothes...the ghost could be wearing clothes...of course I can't say for sure...

 

[Hobgoblin]

According to shows on TV that supposedly explore such things, a ghost can make themselves look however they want. So I guess if a spirit had a favorite outfit....

 

[8wid]

Ghosts are also supposed to be the spirits of those who died in traumatic and sudden circumstances where they're energy gets trapped in the mortal realm. Do their clothes do the same thing too? Do animals too?

It makes more sense to have them as beings from another dimension. Then again if they appear as apparitions in clothing of the time period reflected in this dimension, what are the chances that they are from another dimension when an eternal number of possibilities for what they could look like and what they can exist as in the multiverse?