Sci-Fi Avatar: The Way Of Water

Just started playing a game called Elex which reminds a little of Avatar. I can't stop playing Elex, when is that Avatar game due?
 
Hmm. I at least eXpect to be fascinated by the vfX and production value.
 
Also happy 67th birthday today to the man himself James Cameron! :hrt: Avatar is one of my absolute favorite films and I am so so ready for these sequels.
 
Glad that they're "keeping it in the family" so to speak and not getting a composer who might have opted to disregard all of Horner's previous themes.
 
I wonder what will happen if Avatar 2 doesn't resonate with audiences. Will they delay Avatar 3,4,5 or will they stay the course through to the end. They will make good money regardless.
 
I wonder what will happen if Avatar 2 doesn't resonate with audiences. Will they delay Avatar 3,4,5 or will they stay the course through to the end. They will make good money regardless.

Cameron once said that 4 and 5 won't be made if 2 and 3 flops. I think 3 will be released regardless of how 2 performs because they've been filmed simultaneously. But I suppose in the worst case scenario where 2 completely crashes and burns Disney might drop 3 on Disney+
 
Almost one year to go until Avatar 2 comes out. I’m assuming this release date will hold because they’re starting to talk about the movie now. Even though I’m not a fan of the first one, I’m really excited to see this one because of all the water/underwater stuff. Should look gorgeous.
 
Cameron must have developed some serious tech for the visuals in the huge gap since the first one. Is this going to have properly done 3D too? I haven’t seen a film in 3D for quite a few years now.
 
Cameron once said that 4 and 5 won't be made if 2 and 3 flops. I think 3 will be released regardless of how 2 performs because they've been filmed simultaneously. But I suppose in the worst case scenario where 2 completely crashes and burns Disney might drop 3 on Disney+
Cameron would blow his top at that lol. This is one of those films that is not the same on a small screen. Even if the films do disappointing numbers I can’t see them being low enough to not do a cinematic release.
 
I wonder what will happen if Avatar 2 doesn't resonate with audiences. Will they delay Avatar 3,4,5 or will they stay the course through to the end. They will make good money regardless.

Would delaying actually help? I mean, if people are meh about more Avatar, I'm not sure there is anything reasonable you could *do* with more time to fix that. Its either "release for whatever you can get" or "cancel" as far as choices.

Which is why it was a *dumb* idea to start work on *four sequels at once*.
 
I hope that the sequel will turn me around on Jake Sully, because he was the only issue I had with the film. Namely because I didn't understand the appeal of Sam Worthington back then. He was better in Hacksaw Ridge, so there's hope on that front.
 
I can't believe it's been so long since the first. The very first sequel will be promoted as a big nostalgia piece no doubt. Can't say I'm excited, but I'm sure it'll look great at very least.
 
James Cameron opens up about his long-awaited (and awaited) 'Avatar' sequel

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Filming on Avatar 2 (an official title has yet to be announced) started in 2017, with a story set about 14 years after the original: Former human soldier Jake Sully (Sam Worthington) and Na'vi warrior Neytiri (Zoe Saldaña) have settled down and started a family, and much of the film centers on their preteen offspring.

"Ultimately, the sequels are a story about family, and the lengths parents will go through to keep that family together and keep them safe," producer Jon Landau explains. "I always say that Jim's movies have universal themes — and really, there's no more universal theme than family."

Both Avatar 2 and 3 are mostly set in and around the ocean, introducing a new clan of reef-dwelling Na'vi called the Metkayina. Landau describes the new tropical beaches and shores of Pandora as a seaside paradise: "Bora Bora on steroids." If the first film was all about the rain forest, with its cautionary tale about deforestation, the new entries are a love letter to Cameron's first fascination, the sea. The Titanic director has long advocated for ocean conservation, and he completed a record-breaking journey to the bottom of the Mariana Trench in 2012. "I do the ocean thing when I'm not making movies," he says. "So if I could combine my two greatest loves — one of which is ocean exploration; the other, feature filmmaking — why wouldn't I?"

But setting a story below sea level presents more than a few challenges. The innovative performance-capture process designed for the first Avatar wasn't intended to work underwater, so Cameron and his team had to engineer a way to accurately record the actors' tiniest movements and expressions while submerged. That footage was then animated by artists at the multi-Oscar-winning visual-effects company Weta Digital. Much of the performance-capture filming took place in a 900,000-gallon tank (built specifically for the sequels), which could mimic the ocean's swirling currents and crashing waves. "My colleagues within the production really lobbied heavily for us to do it 'dry for wet,' hanging people on wires," Cameron notes. "I said, 'It's not going to work. It's not going to look real.' I even let them run a test, where we captured dry for wet, and then we captured in water, a crude level of our in-water capture. And it wasn't even close."


The first film was no small task, taking more than a decade to make it to the screen after Cameron first dreamed up the idea. But Cameron and Landau say their goal for the sequels was to aim higher — and dive deeper. Principal photography has already wrapped on Avatar 3 (due in 2024), and Weta has begun early postproduction on some scenes. The fourth and fifth movies are currently set for 2026 and 2028. "What we are doing now, from a story standpoint and a world standpoint, is on a much larger scale," Landau says. "That's both exciting and challenging. We are putting much more detail, first and foremost, into the performances of the cast, but we're [also] putting much more detail and diversity into the world that we are creating."
 
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"Ultimately, the sequels are a story about family, and the lengths parents will go through to keep that family together and keep them safe," producer Jon Landau explains. "I always say that Jim's movies have universal themes — and really, there's no more universal theme than family."
 
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I'm just shocked that they gave us an actual still from the movie.
 

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