Avi Arad Updates Marvel Slate

[zeptron]

It was and it was terrible.

I meant a newer one.

 

[Still A ThorFan]

I meant a newer one.

That movie was f'n priceless LOL

 

[Supreme Power]

If I was Marvel the slate would look like this:

2008 - Punisher 2, Iron Man, Incredible Hulk

2009 - Ghost Rider 2, FF3, Magneto, Luke Cage

2010 - Wolverine, Thor, Spider-man 4, Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk 2

2011 - Luke Cage 2, Captain America, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Deadpool

2012 - Black Panther, Namor, Thor 2, Iron Man 3, Wolverine 2, Incredible Hulk 3

2013 - Spider-man 5, Dr. Strange 2, Silver Surfer 2, Deadpool 2

2014 - Captain America 2, X-men reboot, Black Panther 2

Hulk isn't going to be a total remake.

 

[Advanced Dark]

It's not gonna be a remake at all. They're not remaking the 1st film.

It's a follow up. Or in other words another stand alone Hulk film done by a different director and apparently a different cast. It's a "make-over".

 

[Roughneck]

I'm still mad at Avi

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ mkay

 

[Spider - Man]

Cap, Thor, Wolverine, X-Men, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Hulk - 1st Tier Priority

DD, Moon Knight, Deadpool, Black Panther, Punisher, Namor, Dr. Strange - 2nd Tier Priority

The rest are fillers.

Moon KNight is gonna be a tv series. And I don't consider Deadpool even 2nd tier. Luke Cage should be 2nd tier except for Singleton being attached which drags it below that IMO.

Let me be clear: Ghost Rider fell well below my expectations. Yes, GR really looked good but MSJ (I mean no offense - just calling it like I see it) is not a good writer or director. He had $120 mil to make this movie and a talented director could have done a better job than he did for half the money. BUT this is not about the GR film except to say, after SM3 (Marvel's biggest franchise along with Xmen which are pretty much done) Marvel is gonna have to rely on lesser known characters to carry their BO success. If Ironman and Hulk turn out like GR, I predict it'll bethe end of the road for the superhero genre for a while. IF 2nd stringers like GR COULD HAVE BEEN DONE RIGHT (ala Blade 1 and 2) it would give me more faith that the other heroes we want to see will make it to the screen. BUT when hacks like Johnson are handed BIG money and PLENTY OF TIME to perfect a film and then turn around and deliver flat crap like GR, studios confidence in these things will go out the window.
I predict that the future of these films will hinge on the success of IM and the Hulk. At least for Marvel. Will Favs and Leterrier be the next generation Raimi/Singer or will they be the "Marvel Schumacher".
Time will tell.

 

[Still A ThorFan]

Marvel has been pumping out movies for about 8 years now yet the flagships Cap, Thor, and Namor continue to pushed back. Avi uses the excuse that they want to find the right writers and directors, ok fine. But I don't think it takes you years to do that. That is bull****.

And now you have Dan Slott running all over the place hoping to get a She-Hulk movie made. Would you be surprised if She Hulk ends up happening before the big 3?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I've said for a while now that i think DC movies will dominate the market over the next 3-5 years, Marvel has been going downhill ever since Spidey 2 (the last truly good Marvel movie IMO, though i have yet to see GR). Batman Begins, V For Vendetta, and Superman Returns were all fantastic IMO, and i enjoyed Constantine as well, but i havent truly enjoyed a Marvel movie since Spidey 2. FF was below average, and Blade 3, X3 and Elektra were absolutely terrible IMO.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Moon KNight is gonna be a tv series. And I don't consider Deadpool even 2nd tier. Luke Cage should be 2nd tier except for Singleton being attached which drags it below that IMO.

Deadpool can't never be 1st tier.

Everything in the 1st tier needs no introduction since people already know about the character or it's Marvel more valuable franchise so Marvel is willing to spend more than 100 million to make the movie.

 

[Mr Jide]

Also Namor is a 1st Tier property and it's gonna take time to get that one together but when it's done it'll be bigger and more epic than any Marvel film we've seen yet.

Thats what was originally said about fantastic 4 when it was 1st announced but look how that turned out. But still, I hope Namor does get the deserving epic treatment it needs.

 

[Still A ThorFan]

I've said for a while now that i think DC movies will dominate the market over the next 3-5 years, Marvel has been going downhill ever since Spidey 2 (the last truly good Marvel movie IMO, though i have yet to see GR). Batman Begins, V For Vendetta, and Superman Returns were all fantastic IMO, and i enjoyed Constantine as well, but i havent truly enjoyed a Marvel movie since Spidey 2. FF was below average, and Blade 3, X3 and Elektra were absolutely terrible IMO.

If they go ahead with Flash, Aquaman and Shazam, Marvel has nothing to worry about, and Superman Returns put me to sleep. Its funny because I was on the subway today and I was over hearing some guys talk about Superman Returns and one of them also said he fell asleep during the movie.

And did you notice Superman didn't have any lines as compared to the first films?

 

[dpm07]

If they go ahead with Flash, Aquaman and Shazam, Marvel has nothing to worry about, and Superman Returns put me to sleep. Its funny because I was on the subway today and I was over hearing some guys talk about Superman Returns and one of them also said he fell asleep during the movie.

And did you notice Superman didn't have any lines as compared to the first films?

I think Flash could be a big hit for DC. Aquaman would be very expensive. SR was incredibly boring and lacked any great highlight other than the plane scene. They took an interesting concept, and wrote a horrible film around it, and then didn't even have Superman throw down with a villain. It's sad to say, but CINO had more action between hero and villain, and more fights than SR did.

Thor, IMO could be expensive, but if done properly and in an epic manner which balanced story and action, could potentially be one of the biggest blockbusters ever. The trick is balancing the Asgardian elements with the Midgard elements so the general public doesn't get confused.

Thor could be visually amazing, and epic in scope though. I like to think that if they were to do a Thor film, they'd make a score as epic as LOTR and a sense of urgency on that level. Not too mention, display Thor's powers in all their glory, and his sense of compassion and need to help Asgard and Midgard. Taking the Casket of Winters story, or some other stories of Thor could be great translation to film in a trilogy.

 

[Mr Jide]

I think Flash could be a big hit for Marvel.

Bro, Flash is DC property.

 

[dpm07]

Bro, Flash is DC property.

You're absolutely right, and I know better. Sorry about that. 6:45am in the morning here when I wrote that. Still waking up. t:

 

[Still A ThorFan]

Remember WB has some moron Directing the Flash. Its most likely going to end up a comedy and not have the serious tone David Goyer was going to give it. Its too bad.

And I agree, Superman Returns had a great idea, but man did they ruin it. I was actually upset because I loved the first 2.

 

[dpm07]

Remember WB has some moron Directing the Flash. Its most likely going to end up a comedy and not have the serious tone David Goyer was going to give it. Its too bad.

And I agree, Superman Returns had a great idea, but man did they ruin it. I was actually upset because I loved the first 2.

Yeah, they had an idea for Jack Black to star in their version of Green Lantern, too. I like Jack Black, but definitely not for a superhero role, and definitely not for Green Lantern.

I still believe that Thor has the possibility of being the most epic of Marvel's films. I have confidence in Favreau's approach with Iron Man, as well. I'm not sure how epic Iron Man will be, but I think it will be good.

Thor, is one of the characters that one wants to do just right. A Thor film with a very epic ala Peter Jackson, Sam Raimi, or James Cameron could really be the biggest film of the year it comes out. People have to really take the character seriously in a way that really none of the directors have since Spiderman. I liked Daredevil, and I didn't mind Ghost Rider. That said, I also think FF was ok too, but it definitely did not have the epic edge that it should have and that the FF deserve. Raimi really is the only one who's gotten it right at Marvel so far IMO, and whoever does Thor really needs to go in with that mindset he did.

 

[engen]

Why is everyone trying to hurry up and see these films? Think about it.. Marvel is a billion dollar industry...They have money coming in that they can afford to make crappy films.

I would love to see like 2 films a year for the next several years if they're going to be better quality...Technology advances so fast, wouldn't you rather wait and see your favorite Marvel film in 3-5 years when the tech has gotten better?

The longer we wait the more options..Marvel tries to push movies out so fast, that's why they keep screwing up. ****, release all the 2nd tier films for the next couple of years. I'd rather see an Avengers movie in 2012 then in 2009.

 

[04nbod]

X-men reboot

x men doesn't need a reboot it just needs someone good who knows the characters and has a lot of ideas to put it right. Both singer and Ratner did not know who the characters were and didn't want to as long as they could mould them to fit the story they wanted to tell.As for the supposed 'fans' that wrote X3, as fans they should have known the other fans would be outraged at some of the decisions

 

[dpm07]

x men doesn't need a reboot it just needs someone good who knows the characters and has a lot of ideas to put it right. Both singer and Ratner did not know who the characters were and didn't want to as long as they could mould them to fit the story they wanted to tell.As for the supposed 'fans' that wrote X3, as fans they should have known the other fans would be outraged at some of the decisions

Good points.

 

[BMM]

x men doesn't need a reboot it just needs someone good who knows the characters and has a lot of ideas to put it right. Both singer and Ratner did not know who the characters were and didn't want to as long as they could mould them to fit the story they wanted to tell.As for the supposed 'fans' that wrote X3, as fans they should have known the other fans would be outraged at some of the decisions

X-Men needs a new studio... It doesn't matter who the director is, so long as the X-Men are still tied down by Fox... which is the real problem.

 

[hippie_hunter]

If I was Marvel the slate would look like this:

2008 - Punisher 2, Iron Man, Incredible Hulk

2009 - Ghost Rider 2, FF3, Magneto, Luke Cage

2010 - Wolverine, Thor, Spider-man 4, Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk 2

2011 - Luke Cage 2, Captain America, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Deadpool

2012 - Black Panther, Namor, Thor 2, Iron Man 3, Wolverine 2, Incredible Hulk 3

2013 - Spider-man 5, Dr. Strange 2, Silver Surfer 2, Deadpool 2

2014 - Captain America 2, X-men reboot, Black Panther 2

I see it this way:

2008: the Incredible Hulk, Iron Man, Punisher 2, Wolverine

2009: Ant-Man, Captain America, Luke Cage, Magneto, Silver Surfer

2010: Ghost Rider 2, Fantastic Four 3, Nick Fury, Spider-Man 4, Thor

2011: Black Panther, Iron Man 2, Hawkeye, Namor

2012: Captain America 2, Dr. Strange, Power Pack

2013: Cloak and Dagger, Shang-Chi, Thor 2

2014: Avengers

 

[engen]

I see it this way:

2008: the Incredible Hulk, Iron Man, Punisher 2, Wolverine

2009: Ant-Man, Captain America, Luke Cage, Magneto, Silver Surfer

2010: Ghost Rider 2, Fantastic Four 3, Nick Fury, Spider-Man 4, Thor

2011: Black Panther, Iron Man 2, Hawkeye, Namor

2012: Captain America 2, Dr. Strange, Power Pack

2013: Cloak and Dagger, Shang-Chi, Thor 2

2014: Avengers

My Marvel Vision:
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2008 PUNISHER2/ IRON MAN/ INCREDIBLE HULK/ Black Widow

2009 Ghostrider2/ Wolverine/FF3 Cage/ Power Pack

2010 Antman/ Iron Man2/Capt. America/ Dr. Strange

2011 Daredevil2/Cloak&Dagger/ SpiderMan4/X-Men4/ Nick Fury

2012 Shang-Chi/ Silver Surfer/ Captain America2/ Hawkeye

2013 Black Panther/ Iron Man3/ Thor

2014 Magneto/Avengers/ Namor/

2015 Captain America3

 

[chiefchirpa]

I think it's going to be 3 Marvel Movies per year Max, discounting straight to DVD products. Even though Ghost Rider had achieved big success in the opening weeks (it has sputterred and will have a tough time to reach 100 mil), critics and mainstream viewers lambasted the movie's plot and quality.

I bet Marvel is going to produce fewer, higher production movies or else it would be butt jokes of the movie industry.

2008 - Iron Man, Hulk, Punisher 2
2009 - Wolverine, Captain America, Ant-Man
2010 - Thor, Black Panther, (Insert 2nd tier character)/Spider-Man 4 /Iron 2Man because RDJ is OLD
2011 - Beats me, too far away to predict

 

[hippie_hunter]

With Marvel producing their own movies, expect the output of 2-3 Marvel movies per year increasing to 4 to 5. Two movies from their own studio and at least two from third party studios (the ones that have the X-Men, Fantastic Four, Spider-Man, Sub-Mariner, Luke Cage, Punisher and Ghost Rider franchises).