The Dark Knight Rises Bane

[Solidus]

I still think he would play a great Bane as well, as in Bronson he's shown he can sure add the pounds on to be a bigger character. I just wish WB would come out and what's going on and who's going to be picked.

 

[Bat-Mite]

ROBIN, THE MAN WONDER.

I've seen a movie by that title. He does a lot of things with the batpole in it.

 

[HighFivingMF]

I've seen a movie by that title. He does a lot of things with the batpole in it.

With the Batpole in what?

 

[ALP]

With the Batpole in what?

Spoiler

 

[Figs]

Hahahaha!!

 

[PreK]

That is the first time I've noticed a zipper...

 

[Gianakin_]

It's like how some people are starting to reconsider Bush's presidency, saying "He wasn't THAT bad." No, he was. And so was B&R.

Difference is, nobody claims that B&R isn't bad. It just falls under the "it's so bad it's entertaining" category (unlike Bush or, for some, SM3).

 

[Micah12345]

I like batman and robin. I've seen it like 50 times.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Difference is, nobody claims that B&R isn't bad. It just falls under the "it's so bad it's entertaining" category (unlike Bush or, for some, SM3).

Fans of Adam West, who understand that it's intentional camp, loved Batman & Robin. But the only person who fits that description is Joel Schumacher.

 

[Gianakin_]

Fans of Adam West, who understand that it's intentional camp, loved Batman & Robin. But the only person who fits that description is Joel Schumacher.

Heh, yeah, I was talking more about posters here.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

So... who is Tom Hardy going to be? My guess is that this film will be about the symbol of Batman, the idea of it all, being corrupted by all that has occurred in the past. Now, Batman's the bad guy in the public eye (save for a few believers), that places the new guy to be either a) a 'vigilante' who's out to kill bats and do the "right thing", b) a villain who understands that dilemma (Catwoman is the best archetype here), c) a member of the Falcone family, d) another new 'freak' that's overrun the city, or e) a villain never before seen in live action.

Here's the list of possible 'Tom Hardy' roles I can think of (if he's a villain):
Jean-Paul Levisque, aka, Azrael
Bane (Batman & Robin doesn't count)
Hush
Alberto Falcone
Killer Croc (all cannibal hector-esque) or
Paul Sloane (aka THE CHARLATAN, aka that obscure, Harvey Dent lookalike w/ties to Jonathan "guys I'm the ONLY other living supervillain in the batman films!" Crane)

This list ain't exhaustive.

 

[CrypticOne]

So... who is Tom Hardy going to be? My guess is that this film will be about the symbol of Batman, the idea of it all, being corrupted by all that has occurred in the past. Now, Batman's the bad guy in the public eye (save for a few believers), that places the new guy to be either a) a 'vigilante' who's out to kill bats and do the "right thing", b) a villain who understands that dilemma (Catwoman is the best archetype here), c) a member of the Falcone family, d) another new 'freak' that's overrun the city, or e) a villain never before seen in live action.

Here's the list of possible 'Tom Hardy' roles I can think of (if he's a villain):
Jean-Paul Levisque, aka, Azrael
Bane (Batman & Robin doesn't count)
Hush
Alberto Falcone
Killer Croc (all cannibal hector-esque) or
Paul Sloane (aka THE CHARLATAN, aka that obscure, Harvey Dent lookalike w/ties to Jonathan "guys I'm the ONLY other living supervillain in the batman films!" Crane)

This list ain't exhaustive.

He's gonna play Hugo Strange.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

Fans of Adam West, who understand that it's intentional camp, loved Batman & Robin. But the only person who fits that description is Joel Schumacher.

They're only comparable on the surface level of "treats Batman like a joke."

The Adam West show had incredibly clever writing and a devilish wit. It was counterculture spoof, performed to a T by its actors. Adam West had the comic timing that most actors only dream of. Compare that to George Clooney, who just looked bored in the role. Arnold got the tone, though, and that does make his performance very fun.

One of it's biggest sins, though, is that there are long stretches of it that are simply boring. Basically whenever Arnold isn't on screen. The motorcycle race has to be one of the longest, dullest sequences in film history.

 

[souvlaki]

So... who is Tom Hardy going to be? My guess is that this film will be about the symbol of Batman, the idea of it all, being corrupted by all that has occurred in the past. Now, Batman's the bad guy in the public eye (save for a few believers), that places the new guy to be either a) a 'vigilante' who's out to kill bats and do the "right thing", b) a villain who understands that dilemma (Catwoman is the best archetype here), c) a member of the Falcone family, d) another new 'freak' that's overrun the city, or e) a villain never before seen in live action.

Here's the list of possible 'Tom Hardy' roles I can think of (if he's a villain):
Jean-Paul Levisque, aka, Azrael
Bane (Batman & Robin doesn't count)
Hush
Alberto Falcone
Killer Croc (all cannibal hector-esque) or
Paul Sloane (aka THE CHARLATAN, aka that obscure, Harvey Dent lookalike w/ties to Jonathan "guys I'm the ONLY other living supervillain in the batman films!" Crane)

This list ain't exhaustive.

Not to be a nerd about this, but his name is Jean-Paul Valley.

 

[ALP]

They're only comparable on the surface level of "treats Batman like a joke."

The Adam West show had incredibly clever writing and a devilish wit. It was counterculture spoof, performed to a T by its actors. Adam West had the comic timing that most actors only dream of. Compare that to George Clooney, who just looked bored in the role. Arnold got the tone, though, and that does make his performance very fun.

One of it's biggest sins, though, is that there are long stretches of it that are simply boring. Basically whenever Arnold isn't on screen. The motorcycle race has to be one of the longest, dullest sequences in film history.

I love the Adam West series. And quite agreed when you said that 'time heals all wounds.'

Really, many of us look back on the Adam west film and the show and love it. We can appreciate how humorous it is. But can you imagine being a serious fan of dark Batman in the 60s? You'd probably be pretty angry with the show. That is how ppl treat B&R now. Give it another decade or so and B&R won't have as many haters just more people who view it as a ridiculous comedy. On the other hand, movies like Catwoman do not even fit the "so bad it's hilarious" thing...it's not even in on the joke

 

[souvlaki]

Fans of Adam West, who understand that it's intentional camp, loved Batman & Robin. But the only person who fits that description is Joel Schumacher.

Dude, the 60's Batman television show is great. People that cant appreciate that show take their love of Batman too seriously. As for Batman & Robin, I hated it at the time, but as time has passed I've come to accept it as a bad movie that is an incredibly hilarious source of entertainment. In retrospect Batman & Robin was the best thing that could have happened to Batman, because after the success of the previous Batman films chances are WB never would have approved a complete reboot if Batman & Robin hadn't tanked.

 

[Anti-Moderator]

Not to be a nerd about this, but his name is Jean-Paul Valley.

Correct. Jean-Paul Levisque is Triple H's real name.

 

[American_Idiot]

There are some very good points here in regards to B&R.

Although most of us here recognize it as a bad movie all-around, and can now laugh at the various f-ups, from Bane-Ape to Batnips, it still irks me when I get into a discussion with someone who says "Batman & Robin was a good movie". It's at that point I ask "Are you Batman fan?!" and/or "On what basis?!"

I'm not going to beat a dead horse, but most of us can agree that it was a guide on How Not to Make a Batman Film. Like I said, we can all look back at laugh at it's stupidity now, but when people actually praise Ahhhnold as Freeze, or claim they enjoyed seeing Silverstone's Batgirl alongside Batman, in reference to Paste Pot Pete's post, it's like arguing with someone who claims "Bush was a phenomenal president!"...makes ya wanna bang your head on something...

 

[Keyser Soze]

They're only comparable on the surface level of "treats Batman like a joke."

The Adam West show had incredibly clever writing and a devilish wit. It was counterculture spoof, performed to a T by its actors. Adam West had the comic timing that most actors only dream of. Compare that to George Clooney, who just looked bored in the role. Arnold got the tone, though, and that does make his performance very fun.

One of it's biggest sins, though, is that there are long stretches of it that are simply boring. Basically whenever Arnold isn't on screen. The motorcycle race has to be one of the longest, dullest sequences in film history.

I think Uma Thurman was enjoyable in it as Poison Ivy. But for the most part, the film was a car wreck.

 

[ALP]

I honestly don't think I've ever heard anyone saying Arnold was a great Freeze or they liked Silverstone's Batgirl...or worse, they liked the silver batsuits.

 

[regwec]

I love the Adam West series. And quite agreed when you said that 'time heals all wounds.'

Really, many of us look back on the Adam west film and the show and love it. We can appreciate how humorous it is. But can you imagine being a serious fan of dark Batman in the 60s? You'd probably be pretty angry with the show. That is how ppl treat B&R now. Give it another decade or so and B&R won't have as many haters just more people who view it as a ridiculous comedy. On the other hand, movies like Catwoman do not even fit the "so bad it's hilarious" thing...it's not even in on the joke

I love the Adam West TV show. It's very much a product of the 60s; the optimistic tone and its playful sexuality are quite evident. It's premise seems to be that the good guys are basically stiff, and the bad guys are pretty cool. It works pretty well, and it's important to remember that the show was not unfaithful to the comics as they were at the time.

B&R lacks the period context, the originality or the innocence. The worst thing about that movie is that it seems like an artless cash-in. It has nothing in particular to commend it apart from belonging to the franchise that it is designed to milk. Yuck. I actually quite like the neon-thugs, but yuck.

 

[ALP]

I love the Adam West TV show. It's very much a product of the 60s; the optimistic tone and its playful sexuality are quite evident. It's premise seems to be that the good guys are basically stiff, and the bad guys are pretty cool. It works pretty well, and it's important to remember that the show was not unfaithful to the comics as they were at the time.

B&R lacks the period context, the originality or the innocence. The worst thing about that movie is that it seems like an artless cash-in. It has nothing in particular to commend it apart from belonging to the franchise that it is designed to milk. Yuck. I actually quite like the neon-thugs, but yuck.

Almost forgot about this lol

Was probably hard to be a fan of serious dark Batman in the 60s when the comics were just as silly

And good points.

 

[Majik1387]

He's gonna play Hugo Strange.

 

[The Englishman]

 

[Bat-Mite]