The Dark Knight Rises Bane

[Nave 'Torment']

You're probably right. But its fun to speculate

very true!

 

[Nave 'Torment']

i am not opposed to Bane at all... would definitely work in a Nolan or nolan esque batman film...(doesn't HAVE to be of spanish origins either)

My silly but true thinking for why Bane will NOT be in TDKR is that Nolan's Male villains (even in his non Bat films) are ALWAYS wearing business suits of sorts. I guess it translates to "Corporate evil" business on some sub level or success=evil...just an auteur flourish...

but i see Hugo strange/Black Mask being the male villain (s)" more so than Bane.

Hardy could play anybody with his acting skills, looks, and charm...

I dunno dude, I've always thought those 'clean business-suit wearing' 'Mr. Cobb's as character-types that give you a 'new path' or an insight into a 'new world' in all the Nolan movies. Not necessarily always evil, the 'pure' villains are almost always those characters who lack a clear logical or monetary motivation in Nolan's movies. But that's just my own silly here

Bane can certainly work well in this continuity, his 'gimmick' is that of simply being a better 'human specimen' like Batman, with the Venom being both his rise and fall. A story centered around Venom (and Bale portraying that side of Wayne) would be brilliant. Black Mask can exist as an antagonistic figure with any other villain, being a bastardisation of the Mob in the wake of the Freaks taking center-stage now. But Black Mask could do well to be a secondary rogue, with more prominence given to some other character. I'm not a big fan of Strange personally so I won't go there. The reason why I'm all pro-Hush now (despite that being the 'too obvious' and 'really unlikely to happen' choice) is because with him we have a character who organised these 'Freaks' just to confound Bats. Bane, on the other hand, had merely unleashed them. Of course, Bane did 'break the bat' so there's no argument there.

Bottomline, either one of these villains would make for a terrific TDKR story.

But please, WB/Nolan, give us Selina Kyle.

 

[TheLongestDay]

It's as good a reasoning as you not finding the mask important.

Thats not my reasoning for Bane not having a mask though

Wouldn't be the first time for a movie of any kind to have throwaway first lines.

...except thats not the case with TDK.

Sorry I'm not a TDK-fanatic. It was good for a one time full watch, too long and drawn out for repeated viewings for my taste. Sometimes I'll catch it on tv every so often, but Nolan's Batman movie's while good, aren't that great to me.

Even more reason why your arguments here make no sense.

His goons didn't make up the entire police force.

Never said they did,but if you noticed (probably didnt) that Bruce finds the REAL Cops who have been stripped of their uniforms etc and were replaced by Jokers thugs.

Like you said though,you only saw it once all the way through and didnt care for it much.

 

[Octoberist]

I hope people wanting Bane to be a really buff dude wearing a wife beater and fatigues are just kidding, right? It sounds so absurd.

 

[regwec]

Why's that?

 

[TheLongestDay]

I hope people wanting Bane to be a really buff dude wearing a wife beater and fatigues are just kidding, right? It sounds so absurd.

Isnt that what he wears anyway? Except with a mask.

 

[Octoberist]

Then don't have him at all then. There's a certain point when you're stripping down a character visual where you have to stop.

 

[Octoberist]

Why's that?

I'm not a huge fan of Bane though I get his appeal, but no, I don't want a really buff guy in a wifebeater for a villain. Unless you have Venom, or something like that in there. But if he's just works out, that's kinda lame.

 

[regwec]

I think Bane's look could be modified quite easily. Maybe keep his combat trousers, and add a turtle neck sweater and a ski mask. It would give him more of a classical terrorist look.

 

[TheLongestDay]

I'm not a huge fan of Bane though I get his appeal, but no, I don't want a really buff guy in a wifebeater for a villain. Unless you have Venom, or something like that in there. But if he's just works out, that's kinda lame.

If they can make the mask work than great - all Im saying is I dont see it as the be all and end all of Bane as a character.

Ras didnt need a mask to look threatening or convincing (or a lavish green cape for that matter).

I think Bane could look just as cool with the mohawk type do he sports and if they did go with the venom to give him the physical edge - have it more as a super steroid rather than making him "HULK out".

One things for sure - I would NOT want him to look like this:

http://www.**************.com/images/users/gallerypictures/2770L.jpg

 

[Boom]

IF Tom Hardy is playing the villain, and IF he is not playing Hugo Strange, then I'll keep my fingers crossed for Bane. And if all else fails, I may be able to stomach him as Hush.

**** Black Mask.
**** Deadshot.

 

[TheBatman072]

I'd want him in his classic mask, without a mouthhole, but WITH eyeholes.

In a dark suit. And when he goes to fight Batman, he injects himself with a super steroid he calls Venom. It makes him stronger and seemingly impervious to pain.

He takes off his jacket and shirt to a simple black wifebeater underneath when he gets ready to fight.

That way we get something realistic, but also retain the classic look of the character.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

^ thanks for those pics I needed those.

From the later comics I loved how Bane had a very amoral personality to him. He was neither a foe nor a friend to the Bat-Family, and was actually at odds with Ra's and his League of Assassins.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Seriously, what other 'lead character' in a Batman movie can a man play other than the villain? For God's sake he isn't Bruce Wayne, Alfred or James Gordon. And Robin is, by his own role (even if it is only as gay partner), not a lead.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

The above comment was directed towards those who consider Hardy in a supporting role when the news report stated he was going to play a lead.

 

[Octoberist]

I can't think of anyone who could be the lead.

People brought up a corrupted DA or Bullock, but I can't see any of them being big roles anyway. The Dark Knight had Dent and his big role as the DA; it probably won't happen again, nor would it be compelling. And I can't see Bullock's role (if he's in) being any bigger than the other fellow detectives in Dark Knight.

 

[Boom]

I don't recall anyone saying that Tom Hardy has "lead role."

According to Nolan, Hardy has "a key role, not saying good or bad." Doesn't necessarily have to be a lead role in order to be important.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

I read the story from another news-site (sorry SHH) but I'm certain that's interpreted as lead role. Tom Hardy is the next Batman villain. As Octoberist and many others have pointed out, any other role wouldn't be as prominent as what Nolan has suggested.

 

[Secret Fawful]

Weren't people saying similar things about Anthony Michael Hall back when he was announced to be in The Dark Knight. Everyone back then was speculating that he absolutely had to be playing a villain, and there was even speculation that he was playing Edward Nigma or something, right? And look what he turned out to be. I really do think everyone is getting their hopes up on Hardy's role, and I think that whoever plays the villains have not been cast yet. I call misdirection. I'm the pahty poopah.

 

[PreK]

There is a very big difference between the caliber of AMH and Hardy. C'mon now.

 

[Secret Fawful]

I dunno. I've only seen Hardy in Inception. Recommend some titles for me. Still, only time will tell if caliber is the point here. People would have said years ago there is a huge difference between the caliber of Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger, but y'know.

 

[diabolik]

If it's based on Prey....I'm sure he's going to be Night Scourge

 

[Majik1387]

Weren't people saying similar things about Anthony Michael Hall back when he was announced to be in The Dark Knight. Everyone back then was speculating that he absolutely had to be playing a villain, and there was even speculation that he was playing Edward Nigma or something, right? And look what he turned out to be. I really do think everyone is getting their hopes up on Hardy's role, and I think that whoever plays the villains have not been cast yet. I call misdirection. I'm the pahty poopah.

The thing is AMH said himself he had a 100 million dollar role, not Nolan.
With Hardy, Nolan clearly said he had a key role in TDKR

 

[JokerLedger]

I said this a couple months ago when Hardy was first announced but I still think Tom Hardy will be playing The Wrath, the anti-Batman. Total left field villain

 

[Doctor Who]

I'd want him in his classic mask, without a mouthhole, but WITH eyeholes.

In a dark suit. And when he goes to fight Batman, he injects himself with a super steroid he calls Venom. It makes him stronger and seemingly impervious to pain.

He takes off his jacket and shirt to a simple black wifebeater underneath when he gets ready to fight.

That way we get something realistic, but also retain the classic look of the character.

Props.

What Nolan understands is that he tries to make the villians of the film in touch with reality and perseptive vision, but at the same time fitting to the character and closely adapted to the books.

I think the mask might need a little work of a new design; mainly it's used not only to conceal his identity, but secures his tubes for Venom source on the back of his neck (according to the original Knightfall look). Now, I've thought of if Nolan took this into consideration, he might make a personilized/theatrical looking gas mask that instead of injecting the source through the bloodstream, is converted into vapor and is then inhaled; that way, it could give his mask perhaps more of an armored look and is an essantial piece to the Venom process. Either way, that could work around injection as well too.

In terms of the rest of the costume, I think the normal top grade steel toe combat boots, black latex army pants, and tactical shirt (long or short sleeve) will do nicely; bullet proof vest and a few utility belt and holders couldn't hurt either having that Bane doesn't always resort to using only Venom. There's been many times where he's proved to be a master sniper, using machine guns, and favortism to Stingers. It's important that he wears clothes that are protective, but as well as flexible when bulks out.