Batman: Arkham Knight

[The Caped Knight]

Not sure if real or fan made but cool

Nod too..

Seems legitimate Babs vs. Ringmaster Mister J!

 

[Spider-Aziz]

The long hat reminds me of his cover in a top hat in Death in the Family.

 

[TX85]

I hope the location of the Babs dlc becomes available for free roam on the main game

 

[The Caped Knight]

I'm wondering, how many of you guys have done the Azrael side mission?

If so

Spoiler

Did you guys choose to kill Batman or break the sword?

I choose to break the sword.

 

[jmc]

Not gonna lie, the idea of playing as Barbara is very appealing after watching that trailer.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

Spoiler

I chose to kill Batman. I wanted him to be insane.

Do you still lock him up if he breaks the sword?

 

[TX85]

Spoiler

I chose to kill Batman. I wanted him to be insane.

Do you still lock him up if he breaks the sword?

No

Spoiler

He shakes Batman's hand and says he will have his revenge on the council then takes the elevator to leave

 

[Mister J]

Spoiler

I chose to kill Batman. I wanted him to be insane.

Do you still lock him up if he breaks the sword?

Spoiler

No, Batman congratulates him on breaking free and he goes off in a huff to better reclaim his identity or some ****.

 

[godisawesome]

In other words, you can play Azrael either ML (crazy aside from the brainwashing) or JPV (sane after the brainwashing.)

And the outcomes reflect that.

By the way, does the DLC trailer seem visually reminiscent of Origins to anyone else? Something about it just seems more WBM visual-style than Rocksteady's. Which I enjoy; I really liked the way Origins' cutscenes were directed.

 

[John Locke]

I never cared about playing Robin, Nightwing, or Catwoman but I'm excited about playing as Batgirl.

 

[hellblazer103]

I never cared about playing Robin, Nightwing, or Catwoman but I'm excited about playing as Batgirl.

if only just to check out their take on the killing joke.

 

[TX85]

I only care about playing as Robin,Red Hood and especially Nightwing

 

[Doc Samson]

I'm not saying you're not entitled to feel what ever way you do. I'm telling you that your theory that people had unrealistic expectations has nothing to back it up from what I've seen. Of all the complaints I've seen nothing has been based on something that was unreasonable. They were all valid and logical complaints.

The Arkham games were never going to win any prizes for brilliant boss battles, but at least they challenged their players with some. And occasionally delivered some great ones (Bane, Freeze, Firefly, Deathstroke etc). So to go from that to no boss fights at all (I don't count boring tank fights) is a step down from the standard the series has.

How you can think the side missions are better I don't know when the bulk of them involve Batmobile chases (APC units, Firefly etc) or taking out endless Militia towers and road stops. Professor Pyg and Man Bat were the only half way decent ones. And even Man Bat's one was just a cycle of repetitiveness. Jump on him and inject him every time you hear him in the sky. Didn't even get to fight him. Like Deathstroke, they totally wasted a character that could have been a brilliant brawl for Batman.

I'm saying people have unrealistic expectations all the time. Just because their requests aren't deemed unreasonable doesn't mean that even if they got those things, they wouldn't have been disappointed. I think people assumed they would reinvent the wheel somehow, instead of just sharpening the things they do well.

IMO, the boss battles largely sucked in the previous games, so if the developers are aware of that, I thought it was wise that they strayed away from it. In terms of characterization too, I didn't think most of the villains here called for a boss battle either. As far as the side missions, yes, I think it's a very Batman-like thing to do to chase down Penguins guns, or try to train Azrael or find firefighters and things like that. And yeah, I thought chasing Firefly was pretty cool too. Difference of perspective I suppose.

Well I can't account for people you meet in your life obviously. But please direct me to where on-line the praises are being sung for AC's story.

Indeed you can't, but as far as this forum goes, I'm referring to when Arkham City was new as well. I didn't see near the level of complaints for that story, which IMO, is vastly inferior in almost every way to all of the other games in the series. But it is what it is, I enjoy Arkham Knight, some not as much, we can agree to disagree about it.

 

[Roderick]

Holy hell, that trailer makes me want to buy the season pass. I wonder if there will be a battle between Harley and Babs, seeing her sporting the classic jester costume was the icing on the cake for me.

Sweet baby Jesus.

 

[JaD]

Those blue digital walls in the AR challenges are really starting to piss me off. One of my main strategies in combat challenges has always been rotating the camera pretty heavily to survey my surroundings but those blue walls don't allow the camera to pass through them. So you're on such a small platform with so many different enemy types like sword guys, brutes throwing people at you, chargers, or riot shield enemies can get you before you even get an angle on them.

Trying to beat some high scores of mine but they don't give you any room on some of these challenge rooms, and those walls aren't helping.

 

[Two-Face=Badass]

Is anyone else's trophies not saving right? I did the Harley and Red Hood missions and got the trophies, only they're gone now, and I just completed Leap of Faith where you perform 8 100m jumps, and that's still showing as not unlocked.

 

[Sundancer]

Why don't some of these objectives appear on the map anymore?

I'm almost done the story line but not more firefighters appear with way points when I select that mission.

 

[AnneFan]

Why don't some of these objectives appear on the map anymore?

I'm almost done the story line but not more firefighters appear with way points when I select that mission.

For difficulty, I imagine. They'll appear on the map for the first half or so (be it firefighters or roadside bombs), but then that's it.

 

[Snow Queen]

Why don't some of these objectives appear on the map anymore?

I'm almost done the story line but not more firefighters appear with way points when I select that mission.

Go after the militia stuff. Once you take down all of them on an island, the police will go back to that island and will update you when they spot missions.

 

[The Joker]

I'm saying people have unrealistic expectations all the time. Just because their requests aren't deemed unreasonable doesn't mean that even if they got those things, they wouldn't have been disappointed. I think people assumed they would reinvent the wheel somehow, instead of just sharpening the things they do well.

Just because people have unrealistic expectations all the time doesn't mean that is the basis for their disappointment with this game. You might as well say that about anything that is seen as a disappointment or bad. People have unrealistic expectations. You have no basis to make such a claim unless their complaints reflect such a thing. Nothing in the critical response to this game has suggested that people had ridiculous expectations for it. All the complaints that I've seen, and not just on here, have been reasonable and valid. If you have evidence to the contrary then please post it.

IMO, the boss battles largely sucked in the previous games, so if the developers are aware of that, I thought it was wise that they strayed away from it. In terms of characterization too, I didn't think most of the villains here called for a boss battle either. As far as the side missions, yes, I think it's a very Batman-like thing to do to chase down Penguins guns, or try to train Azrael or find firefighters and things like that. And yeah, I thought chasing Firefly was pretty cool too. Difference of perspective I suppose.

On the contrary the improved boss battles was one of the things AC was praised for. AO as well. And even if they had not been, why would the developers think that instead of trying to improve it they just cut them out altogether and replace them with dreadfully dull tank fights, which are worse than the weakest boss fight in any of the previous three games?

As for the side missions, it's got nothing to do with what is a very Batman like thing to do. Yeah it's a Batman like thing to do to chase down guns or save firefighters, but is it fun or interesting to go looking for firefighters 17 times over? No. It's dull and repetitive. Like the bulk of the side missions. Though if you want to go into the area of what is a very Batman like thing to do, the bulk of the Batmobile stuff in this is not very Batman like, which is probably why the game is being commonly called the least Batman like game of the bunch. Easy to see why. I don't associate Batman with massive tank battles, or even ludicrously trying to be stealthy in a tank mobile sneaking up on other tanks lol. Even for a comic book world that is stupid.

Indeed you can't, but as far as this forum goes, I'm referring to when Arkham City was new as well. I didn't see near the level of complaints for that story, which IMO, is vastly inferior in almost every way to all of the other games in the series. But it is what it is, I enjoy Arkham Knight, some not as much, we can agree to disagree about it.

Oh you're talking about when the game first came out. The new shine obviously wore off, as it often does when time passes and people have played the game or seen a movie a couple more times and have analyzed it more.

I thought you were talking about the present day.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Watched Angry Joe's review of the game. 6/10 - consoles, 4/10 - PC. OMG. Extremely underappreciated.

 

[Naked Shia]

That Joe is really angry obviously.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Currently doing the last Riddler Batmobile race and it is so freaking poorly designed.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

Replaying on New Game Plus, I feel like in a lot of ways this game is the best Batman game without a doubt but a few things hold it back.

Gameplay wise as Batman, Rocksteady perfected freeflow combat and predator gameplay along with adding dual play. Personally the Batmobile doesn't bother me.

Story wise, it could have been improved greatly while still staying the same overall. I'm surprise no one has mentioned this. Ra's al Ghul should have been in the game. In losing Talia, he blames Batman and vows revenge. So he takes one of Batman's sons. Jason. Brings him back to life and sort of brainwashing him in terms of stuff like if Bruce truly loved you he would have brought you back to life. He would have killed Joker but he didn't. You still have Jason as the Arkham Knight. Ra's promises Jason to be his successor if he kills Batman. The Arkham Knight's army is actually members of the League of Assassins. Jason tells Ra's his flaw in Arkham City. That he was focused on Batman joining him and not attacking Batman and keeping him away from his plan to kill the scum of Gotham. In order to kill the scum of Gotham, you have to get rid of the Bat first. So Jason tells Ra's if he does it, he does it his way which involves teaming up with the same villains Ra's tried to kill.

Now Ra's will be in the shadows for the film and won't ever met any of the villains.

We still have Scarecrow teaming up with the Arkham Knight. The Jason Todd boss battle wouldn't just be Jason but Ra's and Jason sort of like Deathstroke's boss fight in Arkham Origins with Ra's and Jason except you're fighting 2 people at once.

After defeating them, Scarecrow announces he is the leader and tells the army he has his fear toxin in the suits of the army and anyone who says no will experience Crane's gas.

In the Arkham Knight and Ra's defeated, Crane knew that if something went wrong with the Knight, the army will need a new commander. In comes Deathstroke.

You really still have the story the rest of the same but for me I feel like adding Ra's would have improved the story a ton and added more weight in Batman experiencing his failures. The failure to save Talia, failure to save Jason.

Also I do feel that once Gordon found out Barbara worked for Batman that we have Gordon and the GCPD sort of hunt Batman. Batman is now wanted by the GCPD. Everything about Batman is being destroyed sort of.

Also with the villains team up. Maybe for example when Batman is hot on the trail of Scarecrow, we have another villain that Batman must take down. Let's say Two-Face comes in and tells Batman he has 2 minutes to stop 2 bombs. One at the Falcone shipping yards and the other at a hospital. Things like that would have been great.

Just my 2 cents. I feel like mainly adding Ra's would have improved the story a ton.

 

[JaD]

Why don't some of these objectives appear on the map anymore?

I'm almost done the story line but not more firefighters appear with way points when I select that mission.

Go after the militia stuff. Once you take down all of them on an island, the police will go back to that island and will update you when they spot missions.

I flew around the city in detective mode looking for groups of enemies to finish the firefighter missions. They stopped automatically showing on my objective screen at around 60% and I had to find them on my own after that.