sorry Doc samson they had one of the dev's from rock steady help create AO. I put up the articles Wwwwway before you ever started talking on this games series inthis forum & Joker was present for it.
Is "one of the dev's from Rocksteady" the actual Rocksteady team? If not, then I don't understand your point. The article you posted makes it clear that they're "standing on the shoulders of giants" and a completely different team from the original developers, whether they had technical help from them or not. I actually like a few aspects from AO, particularly all the detective work that's been incorporated into AK and also the Joker, which was the best interpretation out of all the games IMO.
And when exactly do you know when I started talking about this game series, you sound almost offended, as if I've never been in here before or aren't supposed to be here now. I just don't frequent these parts, but I do go where I please.
Every good opinion has a basis. You don't just believe the disappointment for the game is because people had unrealistic expectations unless you've seen evidence of such a thing reflected in the criticisms. That's when you know people were expecting the unreasonable. If you're going to accuse the legion disappointed fans of something, then at least have some proof of what we're being accused of. It's only fair.
I believe people of this generation have unrealistic expectations about everything. I don't need to document every occurrence of that happening to feel justified in it's truth. You seem to just take exception that I don't share your opinion and happen to think this game isn't nearly as bad as you say it is.
I also wouldn't use this place as some gauge for a "legion of disappointed fans" because virtually across the board the game has been praised and is deemed a success. If critics are telling you before you even play the game that the Batmobile inclusion is a weak part, it's expected that most people will already have their mind made up about it.
Most gamers nowadays have a sheep mentality that way, or a totally opposite contrarian view just to be different. If that many people are upset about the Batmobile, no boss battles and dislike the side quests (which most aren't really necessary to see the
gist of the ending) to that extent that it ruins the whole experience for them, then that's their opinion and they're entitled to it. Doesn't mean I can't think it's utterly ridiculous though.
Obviously the tank battles are just one of many criticisms against the game. It would be so nice if that was the only flaw.
I think the tank battles are the only thing universally viewed as a flaw. Some reviews I saw or read didn't even mention the side quests and for a few that did, they praised them and gave kudos to the wheel and how much it streamlines and prioritizes your objectives. Some didn't like having no boss battles, others liked that they weren't just shoved in there just to be there.
It's a lot of people's opinion. In fact I'd say it's the majority given the tedious side missions are also one of the common complaints about the game. That's exactly the point. Which is what you're trying to argue against here right. You're trying to defend this and saying it's just people having unrealistic expectations as opposed to them genuinely finding this stuff weak or bad.
I'm not trying to defend side missions, tank mode or boss battles. I'm saying the game
overall is fantastic, and if some fans are saying it's not, then they probably had unrealistic expectations for it. Or maybe they didn't, whatever, that's fine.
But I don't understand how you can sit here and say your view is the majority, apparently just because you feel like saying it, then turn around and try to demand factual statements from me in order to defend my viewpoint. There's no difference there, it's simply differing opinions. There's no consensus among the general population who have this game, the only metric there is, is professional reviews. And by and large, the game has been a critical and commercial success. That's really the only fact here.
AC is the only other game that had Riddler challenges, as in actual challenges not just finding riddles. The Riddler challenges in AC were great. Each room was a unique puzzle you had to work your way through to save someone. As opposed to five Batmobile based ones on top of the myriad of other Batmobile quests, both side mission and main game based you had to do.
Challenges, finding riddles, it's all the same to me, and it's all terrible. And that's my opinion on that. I had AC and AA (and played AO), so I know the difference. I just didn't bother to make the distinction because I've never bothered with any of it in the first place, in any game, unless I stumbled across a trophy on my way to doing something a lot more fun.
I'm not talking about Batman driving a tank like Batmobile. I'm talking about Batman going around endlessly blowing up dozens of other tanks in drawn out battles, and even ludicrously trying to be stealthy in it sneaking up on other tanks. They are as non Batman like an activity as you can get. Not to mention so tedious. Especially all that skulking around with the Cobra tanks, the AK tank, and the Deathstroke one.
So that's tedious, but the Riddler crap isn't? Well, that's just another example of two people seeing things differently. I'm not saying you're wrong for feeling that way, I just can't share in the sentiment...
