Batman R.I.P.

Anyone think that Jason Todd might actually be behind th Black Glove/Dr. Hurt? Gives him the chance to take over Gotham and screw with Bruce.

What do you think?
 
Anyone think that Jason Todd might actually be behind th Black Glove/Dr. Hurt? Gives him the chance to take over Gotham and screw with Bruce.

What do you think?
 
Would Jason be smart enough to pull it off and not too much into all that rage/anger stuff? :P
 
All right hang on a second...

I've been reading RIP and so far the main title seems to keep in line with everything. Hell even Robin's title for the few issues it had with an empty closeing held up to the plot line (?) that morrison seems to be going with Bruce living in the gutter of Gotham parading around in a mock costume and what seems to be hallucinating (bat-mite anyone?)

BUT What the Lou Diamond Philips is going on with the other two titles on this ride - NIGHTWING and DETECTIVE COMICS????

first: DETECTIVE COMICS
so batman is still in his original garb and seems to hold this high school love for Selina (something that goes back to the -gasp my next issue) The Hush story. So far the plot it's self is good I can dig it but I fail to see where it fits in with the whole R.I.P. arch - I mean Bruce doesn't seem to be cracking at the seams as he is in the main title. He does not seem to be homeless and hallucinating in a red, yellow and purple suit that is falling off him that he got from some strange homeless guy. And it seems like the big villain here isn't the Black Glove, Dini seems to be playing the Hush card - which I suppose only in time we'll find out where Tommy fits in. But all in all I can't help but to feel like this arch is something that has nothing to do with the R.I.P. arch.

second: NIGHTWING
So far in the first two books of this 'chapter' of the R.I.P. arch Two-Face shakes out Nightwing to save some former flame of his so that she can appear in court so that Two-face doesn't seem to be the villain anymore in everyone's eyes - commendable sure. And then it becomes a cat and mouse/ The Guardin sorta thing. nothing too much on Bruce except in this weeks issue where Dick says that he's scared because he feels that this time Bruce really is gone. and Boom out the door and then he hallucinates due to the posioned bullets laced by Johnathan Crane and squized off by most likely Tommy (gasp finally a connection!) and then the arch closes in two issues when you read the synopsis on both Detective Comics and Nightwing they don't seem to solve anything.

Other than that I can not find in these two titles a single tie to the R.I.P. arch I understand that Grant's writting is a bit odd and let's you fill in the gaps but honestly I come from the old school where when you have tie-ins they do just that TIE-INTO the Main book's arch. For me so far Robin was the only title that did the job but fell flat on it's face

I just hope I haven't invested into two archs and possibly three with the coming of Batman & The Outsiders that have no common thread to the main 'story' other than one quick clip "batman is really gone isn't he?" or "do you think Bruce will ever return?"
 
It'll probably make sense in RIP is over. I imagine that the Detective story takes place before RIP itself (or at least before Bruce was dumped in the street). Nightwing, on the other hand, takes place after an event that has not yet occurred in the main RIP story--Bruce get's Dick out Arkham and disappears, maybe--because there's a mention of Dick having been held in Arkham in the last issue.
 
I think everytime a new issue comes out that is involved with R.I.P. I am just going to pull them all out and re-read everything. boom.
 
Knowing the way Morrison is going lately I wouldn't be surprised if Alfred is the villain, that sure would be the "most shocking revelation in 70 years" that he seems to keep chasing, hoping that he can actually write something good again.
 
Would Jason be smart enough to pull it off and not too much into all that rage/anger stuff? :P

Yes. Batman taught him.

Knowing the way Morrison is going lately I wouldn't be surprised if Alfred is the villain, that sure would be the "most shocking revelation in 70 years" that he seems to keep chasing, hoping that he can actually write something good again.

I think Alfred will be revealed as Bruce's father. (again?)
 
great...Alfred.. Bruces father... saving that for all these years... thats like the butler in SM3





Also Detective Comics one with hush doing that thing to that girl that Batman likes...ya.... not doing much for me..
 
I think Alfred will be revealed as Bruce's father. (again?)
Doesn't that go against 70 years of drawings that have always shown Thomas and Bruce Wayne looking pretty similar?

That's just stupid. That's just as stupid as some kind of crazy revelation that Jor-El is, in fact, not Superman's father, but some other guy.
 
Man, I want Alan Moore to cast a spell on Morrison to have him stay away from Batman...
 
Doesn't that go against 70 years of drawings that have always shown Thomas and Bruce Wayne looking pretty similar?

That's just stupid. That's just as stupid as some kind of crazy revelation that Jor-El is, in fact, not Superman's father, but some other guy.

Yes it does. Morrison scares the **** out of me though, guy's crazy.
 
Dini is kicking ass in Detective. The latest issue was awesome. Hush is in top form. Although Dini is ignoring some continuity from Loeb's original Hush story. In Loeb's story, Bruce said he had not seen Tommy since he was a child. But Dini had them meeting at a party when they're grown up, and Bruce is in the midst of training to be Batman.
 
Ya i have to say, Dini's run on Hush makes me actually like the character now.
 
Yeah, too bad he gets stuck tying in to Morrison's nonsense. I swear, if I ever see that man in the flesh and there is a sharp object in my hand.....
 
He reminds me of M. Night Shamalyn, Quinten Tarintino and Michael Bay all put into one.
 
the thing is, he can write excellent stories, and excellent batman stories at that (re: arkham asylum)

however, he seems determined to persue this "history changing epic" nonsense instead of judt writing well. i hope he isn't really messing with the mythos. the story of his origin, and who his parents are, is all important. you don't mess with this stuff.

it's cheap and tiresome. it is much easier to change the history of batman than it is to write a good story, apparently. anyone could write a story that makes thomas wayne a fiend and his wife a junkie. it's easy to write a story that is simply a lame "gotcha". alfred is his actual father? that's akin to bruce just waking up in a mental hospital to find it was all a dream.

hopefully, morrison has more sense than this. i always thought he did.

however, should he do what i think he's going to do, i'll never purchase anything he ever writes. i'll never read a new batman story. i'm not even wasting my money on RIP. i read it there and then in the shop, and it gives me a moan and a whinge to get me through the day.

come on morrison; make posts like this redundant. don't mess with the waynes. it's unwise, and uncreative, and quite frankly beneath you.
 
I dunno, I thought the concepts in Arkham Asylum were cool but it was a very weak story.
 
So...what actually happened at the end of RIP? It is over isn't it?

--dk7
 
There's no way in heaven or hell, DC would actually let Morrison screw with Batman's origin like that. They have more sense than that. Especially since the Dark Knight movie was a humongous hit, now would be a really bad time to completely rearrange Batman's origin to that extent. Thats like Marvel ressurecting Uncle Ben and it turns out that he's been alive all these years manipulating Peter Parker. It just wont happen ever. Some things are untouchable and some characters need to stay dead...forever.
 
There's no way in heaven or hell, DC would actually let Morrison screw with Batman's origin like that. They have more sense than that. Especially since the Dark Knight movie was a humongous hit, now would be a really bad time to completely rearrange Batman's origin to that extent. Thats like Marvel ressurecting Uncle Ben and it turns out that he's been alive all these years manipulating Peter Parker. It just wont happen ever. Some things are untouchable and some characters need to stay dead...forever.
Ya they are probably going to retcon his little story.
 
There's no way in heaven or hell, DC would actually let Morrison screw with Batman's origin like that. They have more sense than that. Especially since the Dark Knight movie was a humongous hit, now would be a really bad time to completely rearrange Batman's origin to that extent. Thats like Marvel ressurecting Uncle Ben and it turns out that he's been alive all these years manipulating Peter Parker. It just wont happen ever. Some things are untouchable and some characters need to stay dead...forever.

Now is the perfect time to retcon Batman, especially if the retcon causes the story to sync up more with TDK.

Also, have you read Spiderman lately?
 

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