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4 favorite shows of all time
1. all 4 seasons BTAS
2. Breaking Bad
3. JL/JLU
4. STAS
Léo Ho Tep;27870565 said:Batman TAS had simplier stories, but with a lot of heart, and great characterization.
JL was boring. JLU had some interesting stories, but the characterization was simply awful. Superman was always brooding and unpleasant, and so was Wonder Woman. Green Arrow was always hiding being hierarchy (seriously?) and being a better fighter than Black Canary (again, seriously?). Flash was made stupid, even if in some episodes he seemed capable. John Stewart was totally boring. Batman was badass/bland. He doesn't even seem to be the same character he was in TAS. The Question, while rather different from the Ditko and O'neil Eras, was awesome. I liked how he worked with Huntress.
Their attempts at building larger story arcs was interesting, but there were too many continuity issues. Why would orion be there to help Flash and Batman, but would be absent when Darkseid is attacking earth?
Overall, I think JL and JLU are far from being great.
Agreed on most points. Lots of people seem to defend JL/JLU due to their unwillingness to take off the nostalgia goggles. There's no denying that these shows had a big hand in making DC characters heavily recognizable outside of comic fans (with the exception of Superman and Batman who were well known anyway). But it was deeply flawed for many of the reasons you listed here.
However, I disagree that JL was boring. Actually, I liked the series much more before it transformed into JLU. They packed in too many characters that we cool to see, but gave us no reason to care about. Green Arrow, Question, and a few others are obvious exceptions, but the majority of the new cast members were glorified cameos.
Agreed on most points. Lots of people seem to defend JL/JLU due to their unwillingness to take off the nostalgia goggles. There's no denying that these shows had a big hand in making DC characters heavily recognizable outside of comic fans (with the exception of Superman and Batman who were well known anyway). But it was deeply flawed for many of the reasons you listed here.
I could say the same for BTAS. In fact, I'd argue that BTAS is more guilty of being nostalgia-filtered.
I could say the same for BTAS. In fact, I'd argue that BTAS is more guilty of being nostalgia-filtered.