Batman v. Superman vs Thor: The Dark World

BvS or TDW?

  • Batman vs Superman

  • Thor: The Dark World


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Batman chasing the goons for no reason since he put a tracker on them. Batman murdering those goons in the most elaborate ways. Batmobile going through a ship for no reason. Superman chatting with Batman and letting the bad guys get away. I am a mess every time I watch it. It's hilarious.
 
Thor:The Dark World. Because looking back, Thor and Loki's dynamic makes Batman and Superman look like a 2nd grader wrote the script.
 
The Dark World, while uninspired, advanced the overall MCU storyline a bit.

BvS arguably killed the DCEU.
 
Thor: The Dark World. Because at the end of the day, it just bored me, while BvS actually annoyed and frustrated me.
 
How does either of these movies have "great" cinematography?

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Defends films' cinematography, posts 5 gifs where only roughly 20% is photographed footage.
 
Bvs is probably one of the worst paced movies I've ever seen. Seem like it had 5 endings cutting back and forth unnecessarily. The movie refuse to end! Seriously. Lol.

Needless to say TDW, albeit quite truncated and uneven in story and scope, was still more tolerable to sit through.
 
Thor: The Dark World. Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston sitting in an empty room for two hours shooting the breeze would be better than BvS. So TDW nails the two leads which wins the battle right there. Beyond that it is at least a competent film with a story that mostly makes sense and a few good moments. It isn't a great film, but it isn't a crushing disaster like BvS either.
 
TDW is probably my least favorite Marvel movie but it’s Casablanca compared to BvS. Hemsworth and Hiddleston make it worth watching, and some of the humor is good. BvS was straight-up garbage. Such horrid pacing. So many WTF? scenes and moments. Such terrible dialogue and plot points.

Oh yeah. And Eisenlex. Compared to him, Malekith is Darth Vader.
 
I voted for Dark World. I think it’s the worst MCU entry, but even then it’s competent and it didn’t be leave me disliking the main protagonist.

BvS made me dislike both Batman and Superman. That’s awful.

Also, I’ve never seen the Ultimate edition of BvS. The theatrical cut was so awful, I’ve never been able to bring myself to watch a longer cut, even if it makes it slightly better.
If however, Marvel said they’d release a longer version of the Dark World, definitely give it a go. So if we’re going by, which movie makes me want to watch a longer version of it, it’s the Dark World.

Prerty much This :highfive: , although I prefer TDW to Iron Man 2 and 3 ( which are dreadful, but still better than B v S).

I love Batman, I love Superman they've been my go to comic book heroes for 40 years. Somehow B v S made me not give a crap about either of them.

Wonder Woman was the only redeeming quality of that film, although I did enjoy Batman's big warehouse fight. Sadly the other 2 and a bit hours were tortuous.

TDW is a bit silly, but watchable. Hiddleston and Hemsworth have good chemistry and the Dark elves were creepy. They could have done without Kat Dennings but otherwise it was okay. I find it a good "background noise" movie.

Plus, I didn't hate Thor at the end. What's really sad is that Henry Cavil is really funny, and if his Superman got the same treatment that Thor did, even in TDW, that would be a really enjoyable film - get Taika Waititi to direct and it'd be a massive hit.
 
Batman chasing the goons for no reason since he put a tracker on them. Batman murdering those goons in the most elaborate ways. Batmobile going through a ship for no reason. Superman chatting with Batman and letting the bad guys get away. I am a mess every time I watch it. It's hilarious.

ah right, i feel you
 
BvS' reach may have exceeded its grasp, but at least it reached. TDW is inoffensive, disposable studio filmmaking at its finest; it was also the first MCU film I didn't bother to see in theaters.

Frankly I'm surprised (though I probably shouldn't be) that users here seem to prefer mediocre filler to an admirable attempt at something different. Sure, BvS stumbled (rather spectacularly), but to me that's better than going the safe and ultimately forgettable route.
 
Thor and Loki interaction is above any pretentious,boring,nonsensical and faux depth crap Snyder threw at the screen.
 
Thor and Loki interaction is above any pretentious,boring,nonsensical and faux depth crap Snyder threw at the screen.

I thought there interactions were rather uninspired, myself; they were neither witty nor charming. But then I only ever liked Loki in the first Thor (and now Ragnarok). It seems like the writers didn't know what to do with him; he can't be too evil or he'll alienate the audience, but the filmmakers also want to play up their rivalry and differences for humor and drama.

Until Ragnarok he felt a lot like Spike from Buffy in the later seasons. In making him a cuddly teddy bear they neutered him and any threat or menace he once had. Glad to see them finally handling the character right again, but I'm also sick of the "will he/won't he" thing they have going on when it comes to his ultimate allegiance.

But back to TDW, Selvig and all of the Earth stuff was worse than anything in BvS for me. Sure, Snyder may have fundamentally misunderstood the characters and he can't direct coherent or logical conversations to save his life, but at least it's watchable (even if it's in a "so bad it's almost good" way). The Selvig stuff is so cringey as to be unwatchable, and the rest of the movie in Asgard is so rote and by-the-numbers that a child could've written it. Like a lot of the MCU it's basically a Saturday morning cartoon with a $150 mil budget.
 
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wouldn't TDW and MoS be a better comparison since they got the same critic average rating on RT?
 
wouldn't TDW and MoS be a better comparison since they got the same critic average rating on RT?

Thor The Dark World is fresh at 66%. Man of Steel is rotten at 55%.
That being said I agree that it would be a better comparison as the films do seem a lot closer in quality.
 
TDW May be my favorite Hiddleston performance. Close with the first Thor.
 
BvS' reach may have exceeded its grasp, but at least it reached. TDW is inoffensive, disposable studio filmmaking at its finest; it was also the first MCU film I didn't bother to see in theaters.

Frankly I'm surprised (though I probably shouldn't be) that users here seem to prefer mediocre filler to an admirable attempt at something different. Sure, BvS stumbled (rather spectacularly), but to me that's better than going the safe and ultimately forgettable route.

Yeah, I can't give it that credit, because Batman and Superman in one movie is so safe, you can make a horrible movie and still make 800M. Batman being in it at all was always a cowardly mandate. It was the epitome of a safe move, and the only ambition it had, to rush to the big teamup is not only tainted because of the telegraphed greed for money, but was reached for so ineffectively, it's hard to admire, rather than laugh at. It's not like a great Batman Superman story is some great feat that hasn't been done literally thousands of times. Because of that, it's relatively simple to reach, but Snyder was weighed down by trying to hold on to Randian morality while trying to reach up for superheroes who are in direct opposition to that philosophy. I do not admire people who try to do relatively simple things and fail because they have ignorantly burdened themselves. I pity such people, generally. With these things in mind, the cultural context for these characters, BvS isn't so bad it's good, it's just sad, pitiful and a waste of everyone's time and resources.

TDW actually becomes mediocre, imho, for a similar reason, in that in trying to play up Loki, the fan favorite, the safe move, instead of developing Thor, the actual carrier of the theme, the film lost it's heart, purpose and way as a Thor movie. If it was trying to proffer a nonsensical message that doesn't fit the characters, as well as introduced Captain America, Iron Man and Hulk to the world in a series of gifs on Selvig's computer, it would be rated just as badly, I think.
 
I know right? It's like the entire MCU is based on comic books.

Yes, but TDKT (and Logan to a certain extent) showed that the genre could be more than that. I'm no longer a child, so childish pursuits and entertainment no longer hold my interest. Does nearly every single superhero film need to fit in the same mold? Even most of the newer, more mature films still appeal to that same inner child that studios love to exploit.

Not all comic books are for children, so why should all comic book movies be? If there's room for Sandman or Promethea or Y: The Last Man or All-Star Superman in the original medium, why can't we get films like that, too? It would be such a missed opportunity if the only serious & mature entry to come out of the genre in its history is TDKT.
 
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