The Dark Knight Batman VS Joker: The final Battle

[Killing Joke926]

Now I'm confused (too many rumors), is the final fight between Mr. J and Batsie at Arkham or is at amusment park we saw from the Slaughter mobile?

 

[The Battousai]

We don't know what happens between them at the end - it's just not the scene with the semi

 

[BatSpider]

Now I'm confused (too many rumors), is the final fight between Mr. J and Batsie at Arkham or is at amusment park we saw from the Slaughter mobile?

It could be at an amusment park or anywhere for that matter

 

[StylishHokie21]

I wonder when they both confront each other for the first time. In one of those photos it shows his henchmen holding Batman while The Joker takes a cheap shot at him. I wonder how that scene will go down.

 

[sglass03]

Okay, here's my take...

Spoiler

Here's what I think I've put together, in terms of one long action sequence, perhaps in the middle of the film (more on that in a minute):

1. Joker crashes Bruce's party for Dent, clearly aiming at flushing Dent out as Batman (hence threatening Rachel, if the rumors are true.) Batman shows up in the flesh, they fight (perhaps it's one-sided, since Joker has so many armed thugs), and Joker escapes out the window (based on spy reports - maybe or maybe not with Rachel, depending on whose spy reports you read.)

2. The semi chase follows the party scene - ending with Joker confronting the Pod-riding Batman on the streets outside Wayne Tower. Joker is somehow captured - perhaps he goes willingly, as we all suspect.

3. In jail, he's interrogated to no effect, so Batman is brought in - either officially by Gordon, or on his own intent. Clearly, Batman kicks the tar out of Joker, but all for naught - Joker laughs in his face.

4. Joker somehow escapes - many spy reports indicate it's because one of his henchman (or just some random inmate) has a bomb in their stomach, which explodes. In any case, putting together some side information, here's what I think happens: before Joker gets out, he sabotages the police station - he ties up various police officers, kills Loeb (who's there, as we can clearly see in the trailer during Gordon's voice-over with Joker in the holding cell), and steals some cop uniforms. He then escapes in a police cruiser (also seen in the trailer.)

5. Loeb's funeral is held - which Joker crashes dressed as a police officer. He tries to off Mayor Garcia during the 21-gun salute, but fails to kill him...

6. However, in my interpretation, the mayor is badly injured and is taken to the hospital under heavy security. So, rather than try to sneak in and finish the job, Joker elects to just blow the whole dern thing up (also in the trailer.)

Here's where it gets interesting: clearly, if I'm mostly right about these sequences, the semi chase isn't Batman and Joker's final confrontation, since so many things happen afterwards. However, it's also not their FIRST - Batman is clearly wearing his new suit in the party scene (can see this, too, in the trailer) and also drives the Pod during the chase sequence. Rumors hold that Joker causes Batman to change both his suit, and also use the Pod - the ol' reliable info is that Joker blows up the Tumbler, and Batman nearly drowns in the old suit. Whether this is true or not, it's clear they've met before.

What's interesting, then, is not what we've seen, but what we HAVEN'T seen. Clearly, Nolan and Co. wouldn't show us the final fight in the first official, regular trailer. But he also hasn't shown us much else, either. All of Joker's shots, outside the cell and the party, have been from that one post-semi chase scene, where they're in the street. What we've seen, basically, is the middle, but not the beginning or the end confrontations.

 

[Conebone69]

I wonder when they both confront each other for the first time. In one of those photos it shows his henchmen holding Batman while The Joker takes a cheap shot at him. I wonder how that scene will go down.

Most likely at his party. But I hope theres a scene cut out in between when joker says, "gotta little fight in ya, I like that!" Then batman says, "then your gonna love me." Because its odd how batman just comes out of no where after joker says that

 

[Conebone69]

Okay, here's my take...

Spoiler

Here's what I think I've put together, in terms of one long action sequence, perhaps in the middle of the film (more on that in a minute):

1. Joker crashes Bruce's party for Dent, clearly aiming at flushing Dent out as Batman (hence threatening Rachel, if the rumors are true.) Batman shows up in the flesh, they fight (perhaps it's one-sided, since Joker has so many armed thugs), and Joker escapes out the window (based on spy reports - maybe or maybe not with Rachel, depending on whose spy reports you read.)

2. The semi chase follows the party scene - ending with Joker confronting the Pod-riding Batman on the streets outside Wayne Tower. Joker is somehow captured - perhaps he goes willingly, as we all suspect.

3. In jail, he's interrogated to no effect, so Batman is brought in - either officially by Gordon, or on his own intent. Clearly, Batman kicks the tar out of Joker, but all for naught - Joker laughs in his face.

4. Joker somehow escapes - many spy reports indicate it's because one of his henchman (or just some random inmate) has a bomb in their stomach, which explodes. In any case, putting together some side information, here's what I think happens: before Joker gets out, he sabotages the police station - he ties up various police officers, kills Loeb (who's there, as we can clearly see in the trailer during Gordon's voice-over with Joker in the holding cell), and steals some cop uniforms. He then escapes in a police cruiser (also seen in the trailer.)

5. Loeb's funeral is held - which Joker crashes dressed as a police officer. He tries to off Mayor Garcia during the 21-gun salute, but fails to kill him...

6. However, in my interpretation, the mayor is badly injured and is taken to the hospital under heavy security. So, rather than try to sneak in and finish the job, Joker elects to just blow the whole dern thing up (also in the trailer.)

Here's where it gets interesting: clearly, if I'm mostly right about these sequences, the semi chase isn't Batman and Joker's final confrontation, since so many things happen afterwards. However, it's also not their FIRST - Batman is clearly wearing his new suit in the party scene (can see this, too, in the trailer) and also drives the Pod during the chase sequence. Rumors hold that Joker causes Batman to change both his suit, and also use the Pod - the ol' reliable info is that Joker blows up the Tumbler, and Batman nearly drowns in the old suit. Whether this is true or not, it's clear they've met before.

What's interesting, then, is not what we've seen, but what we HAVEN'T seen. Clearly, Nolan and Co. wouldn't show us the final fight in the first official, regular trailer. But he also hasn't shown us much else, either. All of Joker's shots, outside the cell and the party, have been from that one post-semi chase scene, where they're in the street. What we've seen, basically, is the middle, but not the beginning or the end confrontations.

Oh yeah, if joker really does cause bats to get a new suit then the party scene cant be their first confrontation

 

[StylishHokie21]

I'm sure there is. He'll probably crash through the skylight like in Batman 89 or something.

 

[StylishHokie21]

Okay, here's my take...

Spoiler

Here's what I think I've put together, in terms of one long action sequence, perhaps in the middle of the film (more on that in a minute):

1. Joker crashes Bruce's party for Dent, clearly aiming at flushing Dent out as Batman (hence threatening Rachel, if the rumors are true.) Batman shows up in the flesh, they fight (perhaps it's one-sided, since Joker has so many armed thugs), and Joker escapes out the window (based on spy reports - maybe or maybe not with Rachel, depending on whose spy reports you read.)

2. The semi chase follows the party scene - ending with Joker confronting the Pod-riding Batman on the streets outside Wayne Tower. Joker is somehow captured - perhaps he goes willingly, as we all suspect.

3. In jail, he's interrogated to no effect, so Batman is brought in - either officially by Gordon, or on his own intent. Clearly, Batman kicks the tar out of Joker, but all for naught - Joker laughs in his face.

4. Joker somehow escapes - many spy reports indicate it's because one of his henchman (or just some random inmate) has a bomb in their stomach, which explodes. In any case, putting together some side information, here's what I think happens: before Joker gets out, he sabotages the police station - he ties up various police officers, kills Loeb (who's there, as we can clearly see in the trailer during Gordon's voice-over with Joker in the holding cell), and steals some cop uniforms. He then escapes in a police cruiser (also seen in the trailer.)

5. Loeb's funeral is held - which Joker crashes dressed as a police officer. He tries to off Mayor Garcia during the 21-gun salute, but fails to kill him...

6. However, in my interpretation, the mayor is badly injured and is taken to the hospital under heavy security. So, rather than try to sneak in and finish the job, Joker elects to just blow the whole dern thing up (also in the trailer.)

Here's where it gets interesting: clearly, if I'm mostly right about these sequences, the semi chase isn't Batman and Joker's final confrontation, since so many things happen afterwards. However, it's also not their FIRST - Batman is clearly wearing his new suit in the party scene (can see this, too, in the trailer) and also drives the Pod during the chase sequence. Rumors hold that Joker causes Batman to change both his suit, and also use the Pod - the ol' reliable info is that Joker blows up the Tumbler, and Batman nearly drowns in the old suit. Whether this is true or not, it's clear they've met before.

What's interesting, then, is not what we've seen, but what we HAVEN'T seen. Clearly, Nolan and Co. wouldn't show us the final fight in the first official, regular trailer. But he also hasn't shown us much else, either. All of Joker's shots, outside the cell and the party, have been from that one post-semi chase scene, where they're in the street. What we've seen, basically, is the middle, but not the beginning or the end confrontations.

Interesting! There could be a lot more to it. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

2000th post!

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I'm sure there is. He'll probably crash through the skylight like in Batman 89 or something.

I really hope they have a scene like that in TDK, you just gotta have it.

 

[WompuM]

Interesting! There could be a lot more to it. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

2000th post!

Congrats. I just hit the double duece myself.

 

[StylishHokie21]

Congrats. I just hit the double duece myself.

Thanks. Congrats to you.

 

[aceoknaves]

I wuz just thinking. Remember bout a month or so back when it said that Joker's lair is slaughterhouse? It could just mean that metaphorically butit would make sense, considering that it says Slaughter is The Best Medicine on his truck.If he really does have a slaughterhouse hideout, a final confrontation there perhaps?

 

[superkong 500]

No one has mention something that may happen after loebs death, yes like someone else said probably joker tries to kill the mayor, how does he got stopped, enter motorcycle riding bruce in disguise wearing a red and leather jacket and black pants since bats does not appear on daylight but bruce has to save the day he goes on with a helmet in the motorcycle(not the pod obviously) pops out of nowhere and kicks the crap out of the clown goons and then stops joker's atemp to kill the mayor. It reminds me of TAS with bruce's face concealed by a helmet riding a cycle then leaping and landing in a truck to fight some thugs, don't know if someone else remembers that episode. Could someone post pics of bale in the read and black leather outfit and the motorcycle he was in an alley.

 

[Keymaker]

I think Bats and Joker will kick each other's ass while trying to play Twister.

 

[jtfaria]

We don't know what happens between them at the end - it's just not the scene with the semi

Yeah, that scene with the semi is definitely NOT the finale. It's just... part of the plan....

 

[sglass03]

No one has mention something that may happen after loebs death, yes like someone else said probably joker tries to kill the mayor, how does he got stopped, enter motorcycle riding bruce in disguise wearing a red and leather jacket and black pants since bats does not appear on daylight but bruce has to save the day he goes on with a helmet in the motorcycle(not the pod obviously) pops out of nowhere and kicks the crap out of the clown goons and then stops joker's atemp to kill the mayor. It reminds me of TAS with bruce's face concealed by a helmet riding a cycle then leaping and landing in a truck to fight some thugs, don't know if someone else remembers that episode. Could someone post pics of bale in the read and black leather outfit and the motorcycle he was in an alley.

I agree - during the police scene, many people reported Bale on a bike disguised in a helmet. It would be a way for him to pursue Joker (or perhaps prevent him from killing the Mayor) without revealing his identity.

Something tells me that, while a funhouse finale would be great - complete with rigged traps - I'm not sure Nolan is going to do that. I'm sure it will be entertaining, whatever it is, but I also think it will be something a little different, a little unpredictable, and unlike the "Begins" final fight. In other words, I don't think he'll simply retread what he did in the first film, where the two battle it out in some high-tension scene.

Joker can't really hold his own fighting vis a vis Batman, and so I'm thinking the final confrontation will be something akin to "The Laughing Fish," where Batman chases Joker up a large, newly-constructed highrise during a lightning storm. Joker continually aims for more dangerous and slippier footing, as girders swing and lightning crashes, until he eventually falls (perhaps on purpose) into the sea below. They exchange some blows, but most of it is Batman trying to negotiate a hazardous landscape as Joker keeps pushing the envelope. Some kind of variation of this (perhaps combined with the funhouse theme) would be a good ending, I think.

 

[turtlefocker]

Okay, here's my take...

Spoiler

Here's what I think I've put together, in terms of one long action sequence, perhaps in the middle of the film (more on that in a minute):

1. Joker crashes Bruce's party for Dent, clearly aiming at flushing Dent out as Batman (hence threatening Rachel, if the rumors are true.) Batman shows up in the flesh, they fight (perhaps it's one-sided, since Joker has so many armed thugs), and Joker escapes out the window (based on spy reports - maybe or maybe not with Rachel, depending on whose spy reports you read.)

2. The semi chase follows the party scene - ending with Joker confronting the Pod-riding Batman on the streets outside Wayne Tower. Joker is somehow captured - perhaps he goes willingly, as we all suspect.

3. In jail, he's interrogated to no effect, so Batman is brought in - either officially by Gordon, or on his own intent. Clearly, Batman kicks the tar out of Joker, but all for naught - Joker laughs in his face.

4. Joker somehow escapes - many spy reports indicate it's because one of his henchman (or just some random inmate) has a bomb in their stomach, which explodes. In any case, putting together some side information, here's what I think happens: before Joker gets out, he sabotages the police station - he ties up various police officers, kills Loeb (who's there, as we can clearly see in the trailer during Gordon's voice-over with Joker in the holding cell), and steals some cop uniforms. He then escapes in a police cruiser (also seen in the trailer.)

5. Loeb's funeral is held - which Joker crashes dressed as a police officer. He tries to off Mayor Garcia during the 21-gun salute, but fails to kill him...

6. However, in my interpretation, the mayor is badly injured and is taken to the hospital under heavy security. So, rather than try to sneak in and finish the job, Joker elects to just blow the whole dern thing up (also in the trailer.)

Here's where it gets interesting: clearly, if I'm mostly right about these sequences, the semi chase isn't Batman and Joker's final confrontation, since so many things happen afterwards. However, it's also not their FIRST - Batman is clearly wearing his new suit in the party scene (can see this, too, in the trailer) and also drives the Pod during the chase sequence. Rumors hold that Joker causes Batman to change both his suit, and also use the Pod - the ol' reliable info is that Joker blows up the Tumbler, and Batman nearly drowns in the old suit. Whether this is true or not, it's clear they've met before.

Maybe the part is where they first meet face to face and before that Batman is just hunting the joker. Always showing up late. Joker could set some kind of trap which destroys the olds suit.

 

[hegele]

Okay, here's my take...

Spoiler

Here's what I think I've put together, in terms of one long action sequence, perhaps in the middle of the film (more on that in a minute):

1. Joker crashes Bruce's party for Dent, clearly aiming at flushing Dent out as Batman (hence threatening Rachel, if the rumors are true.) Batman shows up in the flesh, they fight (perhaps it's one-sided, since Joker has so many armed thugs), and Joker escapes out the window (based on spy reports - maybe or maybe not with Rachel, depending on whose spy reports you read.)

2. The semi chase follows the party scene - ending with Joker confronting the Pod-riding Batman on the streets outside Wayne Tower. Joker is somehow captured - perhaps he goes willingly, as we all suspect.

3. In jail, he's interrogated to no effect, so Batman is brought in - either officially by Gordon, or on his own intent. Clearly, Batman kicks the tar out of Joker, but all for naught - Joker laughs in his face.

4. Joker somehow escapes - many spy reports indicate it's because one of his henchman (or just some random inmate) has a bomb in their stomach, which explodes. In any case, putting together some side information, here's what I think happens: before Joker gets out, he sabotages the police station - he ties up various police officers, kills Loeb (who's there, as we can clearly see in the trailer during Gordon's voice-over with Joker in the holding cell), and steals some cop uniforms. He then escapes in a police cruiser (also seen in the trailer.)

5. Loeb's funeral is held - which Joker crashes dressed as a police officer. He tries to off Mayor Garcia during the 21-gun salute, but fails to kill him...

6. However, in my interpretation, the mayor is badly injured and is taken to the hospital under heavy security. So, rather than try to sneak in and finish the job, Joker elects to just blow the whole dern thing up (also in the trailer.)

Here's where it gets interesting: clearly, if I'm mostly right about these sequences, the semi chase isn't Batman and Joker's final confrontation, since so many things happen afterwards. However, it's also not their FIRST - Batman is clearly wearing his new suit in the party scene (can see this, too, in the trailer) and also drives the Pod during the chase sequence. Rumors hold that Joker causes Batman to change both his suit, and also use the Pod - the ol' reliable info is that Joker blows up the Tumbler, and Batman nearly drowns in the old suit. Whether this is true or not, it's clear they've met before.

What's interesting, then, is not what we've seen, but what we HAVEN'T seen. Clearly, Nolan and Co. wouldn't show us the final fight in the first official, regular trailer. But he also hasn't shown us much else, either. All of Joker's shots, outside the cell and the party, have been from that one post-semi chase scene, where they're in the street. What we've seen, basically, is the middle, but not the beginning or the end confrontations.

very interesting notes

 

[DieSmiling]

See, I'll be honest, I think the stuff in the trailer (semi flip, "hit me") is the final battle. I just get that "final confrontation" vibe from it. I definitely hope I'm wrong, however.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

See, I'll be honest, I think the stuff in the trailer (semi flip, "hit me") is the final battle. I just get that "final confrontation" vibe from it. I definitely hope I'm wrong, however.

I hope so too!

 

[Solidus]

The Semi flip is not at the end. I'm sure of that. It is when with set reports after the semi flips the cops take him and his thugs in jail. And that is only it seems half way through the movie because Joker escapes. I will bet money the semi flip is not the final fight.

Cuz after it flips, Joker shoots at Bats, Batman falls over, from the set report or what ever when Joker is about to cut Bats and Gordon comes up behind with a gun and puts it to the Joker's head:

Joker replies:

"Can you give us a minute?"

Yea that is only half way through the film, I believe. They are saving the footage for the end for the movie it self, not trailers.

 

[bkey]

The Semi flip is not at the end. I'm sure of that. It is when with set reports after the semi flips the cops take him and his thugs in jail. And that is only it seems half way through the movie because Joker escapes. I will bet money the semi flip is not the final fight.

Cuz after it flips, Joker shoots at Bats, Batman falls over, from the set report or what ever when Joker is about to cut Bats and Gordon comes up behind with a gun and puts it to the Joker's head:

Joker replies:

"Can you give us a minute?"

Yea that is only half way through the film, I believe. They are saving the footage for the end for the movie it self, not trailers.

I thought the "can you us a minute?" Line and Gordon saving batman was proven to be false. Maybe not though.

 

[DieSmiling]

I thought the "can you us a minute?" Line and Gordon saving batman was proven to be false. Maybe not though.

It was proven false, I think he's mistaken.

 

[StylishHokie21]

I remember a few weeks back someone said they wanted a more cerebral fight between Batman and Joker. And then went on to say a chess game between them would be good.



I then wanted to strangle them until the life left their eyes.

Haha! A chess game? I'll have whatever they were smoking.