The Dark Knight Batman's Theme Music in TDK

[Bright Knight]

Why are you cursing?

But hell isn't a curse?

Hell hell hell! See?! It no more of a curse than any other place name, like New York, or Reno.

Hell Hell Hell!!!

See?! It isn't blocked out. Then again, neither is bollox.

 

[CConn]

Yea, it was a bad analogy when I wrote it, I was hoping you wouldn't pick up on that But I don't think the comics compare with the music either.

My philosophy is, if it isn't integral to the universe, either do something new or don't bother rehashing it

But what's integral to the universe depends on each person's personal point of view.

 

[sasquatchs]

But what's integral to the universe depends on each person's personal point of view.

Yea, but that obviously doesn't apply to music because there isn't any in the comics. I'm talking solely about using the comics as the source of inspiration, or at least, not taking significant inspiration from the other films. The composers inspiration should come from what's onscreen

 

[Nepenthes]

Havn't read the thread so I'm just chiming in here:

It wasnt until I watched the new teaser that I realised how much I actually like the new Zimmerman theme. It's takes a while to warm to but I reckon it's a winner and Zimmerman is going to impress everyone when he ramps it up for TDK.


this stuff about the 89 theme is absurd. Sure it's a great theme, we all love it, but a big part about relaunching the franchise was DIFFERENTIATING from what's come before. Break it down and build it back again. Just because Elfmans theme is kick arse doesn't mean something else can't replace it.

 

[CConn]

Yea, but that obviously doesn't apply to music because there isn't any in the comics. I'm talking solely about using the comics as the source of inspiration, or at least, not taking significant inspiration from the other films. The composers inspiration should come from what's onscreen

But, you must understand, films and TV shows are equally important as the comics themselves. Some of the most well-known comic characters ever originated on radio shows and the like. To say that film doesn't make equally important contributions to characters and mythos is simply untrue.

And sure, let the composers get inspiration from what's shot...as long as they can actually craft a theme from those images that people can actually remember.

 

[sasquatchs]

But, you must understand, films and TV shows are equally important as the comics themselves. Some of the most well-known comic characters ever originated on radio shows and the like. To say that film doesn't make equally important contributions to characters and mythos is simply untrue.

And sure, let the composers get inspiration from what's shot...as long as they can actually craft a theme from those images that people can actually remember.

You mean using other films besides Batman films as inspiration? By the other films I meant the other Batman films, not films in general that have nothing directly to do with Batman. Or am I misunderstanding you?

 

[strikezone89]

sweet. i hope its good as the first.

 

[CConn]

You mean using other films besides Batman films as inspiration? By the other films I meant the other Batman films, not films in general that have nothing directly to do with Batman. Or am I misunderstanding you?

Well, Blade Runner did influence Nolan in making BB, but yeah, I meant other Batman films. Basically any substantial form of media that features Batman.

 

[sasquatchs]

Well, Blade Runner did influence Nolan in making BB, but yeah, I meant other Batman films. Basically any substantial form of media that features Batman.

A good idea is a good idea, in terms of plot and character at least. If you use the same music again it kind of signifies that the themes are close to what came before, and I don't really want that to be true for Bale's Batman compared with Keaton's.

 

[The Only Woj]

well, I loved Batman's theme music in BB. LOVED IT. I'm just hoping they keep that main theme, and expand upon it.

 

[Comicfan]

Comic book movie fans the world over were thrilled with Christopher Nolan's 2005 relaunch Batman Begins and a large part of that--not to disparage the talented Danny Elfman--was due to Hans Zimmer's fantastic score. ComingSoon.net/Superhero Hype! recently had a rare opportunity to talk to the musical maestro about his score for The Simpsons Movie, and we asked him how things were progressing on the musical end of the Batman sequel The Dark Knight.

The biggest news from Mr. Zimmer, who told us that he's "playing around" and "getting some ideas" is the fact that he's crafting a new Batman theme for the second movie in the relaunched franchise. "It's going to evolve," He told us. "There is a big Batman theme which I was playing with for the last one, but I always felt the character hadn't earned it yet, so I just want to go and play around, and I now want to go and complete that theme, so that's part of the idea. I felt I had a good start, and now it would be really nice to develop that world a little further."

The Dark Knight opens on July 18, while The Simpsons Movie is now playing in theatres and its soundtrack is available in record stores everywhere. You can read our full interview with Mr. Zimmer on ComingSoon.net very soon. (It's one not to miss for anyone who wants to learn more about the origins of "The Spider-Pig Contata" or some of Mr. Zimmer's other exciting plans, some of them involving "pirates.")

SHH main page.

I hope is true becasue BB lacked a good main theme

 

[sohojozo]

Wow, bravo to Zimmer on the big new revelation that he already mentioned eons ago, lol. I started a thread on this about 3 months back, and i would vote for a complete merge of the music threads, but the old one died of neglect. funny, because these are practically the same arguments, except different people because the boards have changed so much since then.

i still think that adjusting the music a bit for the Joker would be in order. not a full blown theme, but something distinctive. just don't repeat it everytime he's on screen. tinge the music with something that sounds like....shostakovich's jazz waltz #2, n'est-ce pas?

 

[Conebone69]

well, I loved Batman's theme music in BB. LOVED IT. I'm just hoping they keep that main theme, and expand upon it.

Yeah, what was the song name of the theme?

 

[Tempest19]

Myotis or Mollussus, found throughout- not one central theme which he is working on for TDK.

Dun.dun.dun-Dun.-Dun.dah.dah.- Dun. dun.dun- Dun.Da!

Lol. I felt like I was writing the Simpsons theme in words.

 

[Juanigi]

danny elfman is pretty prolific yeah

 

[Tempest19]

Elfman's was blockbuster big. BB is operatic big. Both going for a different feel, both good for representative films. Elfman would not fit for the BB world. Zimmer would not fit for Burton's world. 'Nuff said.

 

[Carnotaur3]

I guess everyone is going to ignore my last post...

 

[sohojozo]

^that piece was definitely not used within the film. Surprisingly enough, this was the first time I've actually heard it, even though i've seen people talking about it all the time. hopefully the theme will be more fleshed out in tdk, fuller chords, perhaps different orchestration. the unused them though... it has qualities i like, and ones that i don't. i figure it was used only for that trailer, but i may be wrong. if so, the way the rhythm plays in (the part i dislike) may be because of that.

 

[_achilles_]

i like the music from zimmer very much , sadly the music piece when bruce goes down with the elevator isn't on the soundtrack

 

[Two-Face]

I love BB soundtrack and i hope TDK soundtrack will be excellent.

 

[Steelsheen]

i wanna hear this great new theme that Batman has earned before i wax poetic. for some reason i'm not as impressed with Zimmer's theme as i was with Elfman's this far into second filming.

 

[BurtonBegan]

I was delighted to read about this, my theories in a post from a couple of months back were correct. Batman lacked a strong theme in BB and was a small criticism I had of it, the fact the music is going to develop with the character however rectifies all that and makes it even better.
The music in the teaser seems to have an oscillation in it for the laughing of the joker, in fact, it sounds a bit like what they find in Joker89s pocket after he falls from the roof.

 

[Darknightnomis]

i wanna hear this great new theme that Batman has earned before i wax poetic. for some reason i'm not as impressed with Zimmer's theme as i was with Elfman's this far into second filming.

Elfman theme fit perfectly in Burtom movies but wouldn't work for these Batman movies. Let's leave everything fom those movies were they belong...in the past.

And I think we had a taste of this new theme during the credits of Batman Begins.

 

[Citadel30]

Personally- I think both music soundtracks fit each movie theme perfectly.

In Batman89- Burton's batman was very action oriented and flashier. Elfman's music definitely set the pace for that film- Fast, aggressive and colorful (if that makes sense)

With BB- the theme is darker and more like a drama-action film, which Zimmer compliments well. The BB soundtrack is very relaxing and it is great to listen to if you ever just want to chill around the house.

I think TDK is going to get more musically aggressive- to go along the lines of the film, which is also going to pick up in the action scenes.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I really liked the theme in BB though, why cant they just keep that? I hate it when they change theme's for sequels. One of the best parts of seeing a sequel is hearing the familiar theme of the movie/s before when the film starts IMO.