Transformers Bay?????

[Grimm52]

Ive just watched the tralier to Texas Chainsaw Massacre the Beginning and Mikael Bay is producing it. It looks like the same movie as the remake that came out a few years back with Jessica Beil (HOTTIE). So I think we Transformer Fans may be in trouble with his version of the movie. I hope not but until I see something different Im going to be the guy that says the glass is half empty!

 

[GhostPoet]

I've enjoyed most of Bay's work...so I have full confidence in this film.

 

[CFlash]

I've enjoyed most of Bay's work...so I have full confidence in this film.

I've "enjoyed" all his movies as well (loved Bad Boys when I was in HS back in the day).

But, I've always felt a little "dumber" each time I left the theater. Pearl Harbor was an attrocious movie that looked pretty. He doesn't make "smart" movies... though he does make pretty ones.

The Island, however, was a good breakthrough for him. I think he needs to do what Sam Raimi did and make a movie like "A Simple Plan" (which was awesome).... That might teach him basic moviemaking skills (subtext, building suspense, dialog) rather than larger-than-life Music Video skills.

 

[WalkingDead]

I like some of Bay's stuff...
The Rock is, IMO, one of the best action films of the 90's...period. It's above the call of duty when compared to many other actiony films of the mid-late 90's.

I also liked Bad Boys...the first one, not too keen on the second one.
Armageddon was okay, not great but not horrible...5 outta 10 to me.


I have complete faith that Bay will handle ALL the action almost perfectly. I have a feeling we're gonna get a great car chase scene, awesome robot fights, and cool explosions that will wow and entertain us. I just hope that within all that the TF's are made into real characters.

 

[Master Blaster]

Bay may not be the best director, but he is a competent one. I think he’s perfectly capable of getting this movie right.

As for the TCM: The Beginning, I think it looks to be great. Just as good as the remake Bay gave us a couple of years back.

 

[ComicKoryn]

I've "enjoyed" all his movies as well (loved Bad Boys when I was in HS back in the day).

But, I've always felt a little "dumber" each time I left the theater. Pearl Harbor was an attrocious movie that looked pretty. He doesn't make "smart" movies... though he does make pretty ones.

The Island, however, was a good breakthrough for him. I think he needs to do what Sam Raimi did and make a movie like "A Simple Plan" (which was awesome).... That might teach him basic moviemaking skills (subtext, building suspense, dialog) rather than larger-than-life Music Video skills.

Oh me too CFlash, I definitely felt like I lost some valuable brain cells after leaving a Bay film.

 

[GhostPoet]

So...why did people hate Armageddon? I don't understand...I thought it was a solid action film.

 

[ComicKoryn]

I didn't necessarily hate Armageddon, I just didn't leave the theater thinking I'd buy it when it came out on video.....or even rent it.

 

[CFlash]

I didn't necessarily hate Armageddon, I just didn't leave the theater thinking I'd buy it when it came out on video.....or even rent it.

Same here.
One thing that really gets me about the crop of big-budget movies that came out in the 90's like Independence Day and Armageddon was the cartoony or otherwise "glossy" way it treated disaster and death. They were.... I dunno..... vacuous is probably the word.

Not bad.... fun to watch... but just empty.

Whatever its faults, Deep Impact was more intelligent than Armageddon. And if you compare Pearl Harbor to something like Saving Private Ryan you totally see how ludicrously bad Pearl Harbor was and just how "bad" of a director Bay really is (eye-candy notwithstanding).

 

[The Kid]

Most of my interest in transformers stems from exactly what bay excells with.

COOL CARS

THINGS THAT GO BOOM.

the only thing I think is worth worrying about is the characters. I just hate shia. burning hate. His role in holes wasn't too bad though..., but he's the same character in every movie I've seen with him in it, excpet for the golf movie, haven't seen that... still. casting him to play the geeky kid with a loud mouth he always plays just seems lazy and cheap, and also it might be annoying to watch him play his even stevens character again. we'll see.

the voices. god let them try to get the originals back or come so close to them we don't notice.

the story. I tried to read a transformers encyclopedia online once and just couldn't get through it. I don't really understand the story of transformers beyond them being what I learned from beast wars about the ancient spark creating robots on cybertron and then the arch with optimus etc. in it goes trough a time warp thing like in planet of the apes and crashlands on earth. they seem to be following that. and then the plot is to find a way back home to cybertron. Like, ET meets I robot.

so as long as bay watches iron giant and borrows well enough from that, he should be alright.

ONe thing's for sure. this'll be a huge super amazing thrill ride. I think it's going to do very well and maybe more popular 80s properties will be transformed into live action.

something to do with alien cat-people and an evil mummy maybe?
hmm?

 

[The Kid]

So...why did people hate Armageddon? I don't understand...I thought it was a solid action film.

same here. I enjoyed the hell out of that movie.

 

[ComicKoryn]

anyone else agree with me that Beast Wars was one of the best Transformers shows beyond the original series? I really loved that show.

 

[WalkingDead]

anyone else agree with me that Beast Wars was one of the best Transformers shows beyond the original series? I really loved that show.

In most Transfans fandom circles Beast Wars is considered to be the best Transformers show of all-time. And I agree. It was the best-written TF show without-a-doubt...surpassed every other TF show with intelligent, well-plotted writing. Only show that rivals it with intelligent writing is Beast Machines, but BM to me just doesn't hold up when compared to how good BW simply was.

Beast Wars also had amazing characterization and made you care about the characters and who they were and what they meant. Characters such as Dinobot had a massive impact on a lot of viewers. BW was just a great show.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I like some of Bay's stuff...
The Rock is, IMO, one of the best action films of the 90's...period. It's above the call of duty when compared to many other actiony films of the mid-late 90's.

I also liked Bad Boys...the first one, not too keen on the second one.
Armageddon was okay, not great but not horrible...5 outta 10 to me.


I have complete faith that Bay will handle ALL the action almost perfectly. I have a feeling we're gonna get a great car chase scene, awesome robot fights, and cool explosions that will wow and entertain us. I just hope that within all that the TF's are made into real characters.

Totally agree about The Rock,he needs to get some of the depth from that movie into TF IMO
The Island was a good example of him evolving build-wise i thought