BEGINS Sequel to be "Darker"

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  1. superkong 500 Registered

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    I looked and didn't see this posted, if it is then close this thread.
    Friday, May 12, 2006 - 11:24 AM CENTRAL TIME: Got the following tidbit in today I thought may interest you all. A few tidbits from a friend of BOF that sort of comes straight from the horses mouth, so to speak (he explained how, I just can't tell you all the details). Anyhow, expect:

    - "They" pretty much have got the plot for the film outlined.
    - Nolan has been re-going over all of the various Batman comics even more to comb for fine details.
    - They (Nolan and co.) want it to be even darker than BEGINS.
    - The studio is supportive of creating something as accurate to the Batman comic books as possible and less about it being some kind of summer popcorn "mega-hit." Sounds good to me people. And to WB, don't worry, just let Nolan and crew roll with it! I know I trus 'em...
     
  2. boywonder13 Registered

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    wow another thread posted 1 minute before u!
     
  3. Cinemaman Registered

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    BB2 being darker? Sounds good. It would be even better if Gotham was full of gothic and retro-style.

    But as I think, BB was awesome in vissual style.

    Hope Nolan will choose The Killing Joke and The Long Halloween as the most importand comics for BB sequel.
     
  4. Mister J Enlightened to the Great Darkness

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    Sounds good. I'm happy about the sequel being headed in a darker direction and not that of a popcorn flick. The news about it being accurate to the comics is great. I'm hoping for some references to The Killing Joke and/or The Man Who Laughs.
     
  5. Two-Face Harvey Dent

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    If true, sequel will be better then BEGINS!
     
  6. Cinemaman Registered

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    Hope so.
     
  7. Van Petrol Guest

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    lol, I posted this a minute before you did, and it seems to have gone unnoticed. Anyways...
     
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  9. Cinemaman Registered

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    But I also want sequel to be blockbuster to get high numbers in box office.

    Box office is also important thing for sequl to get BB3.
     
  10. Cinemaman Registered

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    I think sequel will be able to get Oscar Awards for the Best Make-up (The Koker, Two-Face and Penguin are very hard characters for good make-up) and maybe for the Best costume-design.
     
  11. kytrigger Registered

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    Darker does sound good, but I don't really want the gothic style of Gotham. We already got that in Burton's Batmans and I think Gotham should just be the same as it was in Begins, especially since they have teh sets still built of it.

    I hope they use The Killing Joke and Long Halloween too.
     
  12. superkong 500 Registered

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    Yea I noticed just after I posted it your post was there,damn almost at the same time:) ,well anyhow Iam really happy with this(rumor right now)news, I just hope that the joker gets a bigger role than was rumored.
     
  13. Stringer CHAMPS AGAIN!

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    Sounds cool I hope they dont get too dark though, like the Year One script, that movie wouldve be on the verge of depressing.
     
  14. phil Registered

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    I wish they would take the same approach to Superman
     
  15. DA Harvey Dent Registered

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    Excellent news.
     
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    Well the only way to make the tone of the film darker than the first is by cutting out the one liners. Atmospherically, however, they can go quite a bit darker. Other than the narrows and the docks, the rest of the city was pretty normal looking at night. I like this news
     
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    The darker the better, I don't want this to be a kids film.
     
  18. Cinemaman Registered

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    Also agreed.
     
  19. Keyser Sushi Squirrel Baffle

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    I thought BB was pretty dark in terms of the visual stylings. It felt like a comic drawn by Don Newton, as far as I'm concerned, which is something that makes me happy every time I watch it.

    I also thought it was pretty spot-on with tone.

    What I expect, in all honesty, is that BB2 is the (and yes I inow how cliché it is to say this) ESB of the Batman trilogy. Basically in this movie all the good guys get screwed and I expect the end of the movie to be a real "goddammit I want the third one NOW!" kind of ending where everything is just... hosed.

    Then BB3 can be, of course, about the final showdown and getting out of the jam.

    What I really want is, you know - in BB Batman had his moral code in place, no killing, not about vengeance, etc. And in BB2 we know he'll add Harvey as an ally. I'd like to see Batman forced to wrestle, in BB2, with his dual natures - the virtuous hero vs. the tortured avenger - if Joker did gank Rachel and then he scars Harvey when he's on trial... Batman should ask himself, why didn't I just kill Joker and get it over with? Why do I feel the need to keep him alive? Am I responsible for what happened to Harvey?

    I think that Two-Face should go after Joker in BB3 and Batman will have to decide whether to stop Harvey from killing Joker, or to help him, and in the end, the decision should be this: Joker may be irredeemable but that doesn't give Batman the right to kill him; Harvey may be damaged but he's still Harvey, and Batman won't let his friend become a cold-blooded killer.

    But before Batman gets to that final resolution and the reinforcing and strengthening of his moral code, I want him to go to a very dark place where he's almost willing to cross that line. Show Batman dealing with a moral dilemma within himself. :up:
     
  20. Cinemaman Registered

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    Not bad :up:

    Psyhology of Batman is the most importand thing in trilogy.

    I also want him to become the rude hero without prisoners, only death can stop his enemy.

    But then in BB3 I want him to become again good Dark Knight.
     
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    This movie will be darker. I think it's because christian bale has been asking Nolan for the movie to be more darker and even at one point wanted it to be an 18 rating. I think he s got his wish.

    second best news of sequel since finding out joker & two face would be in it.
     
  22. Cinemaman Registered

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    Cool. Bale is the best Batman for me. But... I dont want BB2 to get R rating.
     
  23. Nightwing 52 Things change

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    Great news, I'm not that suprised though by that fact that they're making it darker than Begins. Considering it was said that Joker would be going the same route, then Nicholson's version in '89. And yes, The Killing Joke and The Long Halloween would make great inspirations for the sequel. I hope a lot is based on the books throughout the film, but how Nolan envisions it of course.
     
  24. Keyser Sushi Squirrel Baffle

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    Yeah, an R rating would be too much. This isn't Sin City. I grew up reading Batman comics that were pretty solidly PG-13. There were plenty of references to sex and drugs and etc, and the imagery was dark and often creepy, and consistently violent and noirish, satisfyingly adult, but still basically kid-appropriate.

    I want to be able to say the same for any Batman movie.
     
  25. can i hear any better news today.

    :up:
     

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