Being... British?

[mightiest_mortal]

What's wrong with putting British natives first? Instead of accommodating to immigrants before natives?

Nothing. I think there are legitamate arguments that BNP getting votes should raise in parliment rather than them just writing them off as a bunch of crazy racists.

That said the BNP seems to be getting votes based on its stances on immigration with people seemingly not looking into what their policies on anything else at all are.

I dont agree to either of those really, I believe in a fair and just society for all.

I believe any country should look after its own first. There are enough unemployed people, people in povery, people sponging off wellfare in this country as it is (the majority of which arent immigrants). They need to be sorted out first. Unless people can contribute something to the country and not just take more from it, we shouldn't be letting them in this country.

 

[ttotheusher]

Nothing. I think there are legitamate arguments that BNP getting votes should raise in parliment rather than them just writing them off as a bunch of crazy racists.

That said the BNP seems to be getting votes based on its stances on immigration with people seemingly not looking into what their policies on anything else at all are.

I think thats the problem with the voting system sometimes, people do not fully reasearch for who there voting for.

 

[LexCorp]

Sounds like politics the world over...

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I dont agree to either of those really, I believe in a fair and just society for all.

Not at all man. Natives should be at the top of the list. End of.

And I'm not talking skin colour. I mean anyone who was born here, regardless of skin colour.

Why should some bloke/woman who has just hopped off the boat be given a council house before a native? Why should a bloke/woman who has just hopped off the boat be allowed to claim benefits? Why should a bloke/woman who has just hopped off the boat get a job before a native?

And look at Britain's most wanted list. The majority of them are all immigrants.

I'm not saying kick immigrants out, that would be impossible. But just close the borders, don't let anyone else in unless they can offer the country something.

Look at Australia. Their immigration system is the best in the world because they don't let any old Tom, Dick and Harry into their country. You have to have something to offer the country like a trade or a qualification. Why can't Britain do that?

Our immigration policy is one of the reasons this country is falling apart.

 

[pyromaniac]

This sounds like a prequel to Children of Men, without the infertility part.

 

[chamber-music]

Not at all man. Natives should be at the top of the list. End of.

And I'm not talking skin colour. I mean anyone who was born here, regardless of skin colour.

Why should some bloke/woman who has just hopped off the boat be given a council house before a native? Why should a bloke/woman who has just hopped off the boat be allowed to claim benefits? Why should a bloke/woman who has just hopped off the boat get a job before a native?

And look at Britain's most wanted list. The majority of them are all immigrants.

I'm not saying kick immigrants out, that would be impossible. But just close the borders, don't let anyone else in unless they can offer the country something.

Look at Australia. Their immigration system is the best in the world because they don't let any old Tom, Dick and Harry into their country. You have to have something to offer the country like a trade or a qualification. Why can't Britain do that?

Our immigration policy is one of the reasons this country is falling apart.

I agree with Ace Of Knaves Britains immigration policy is bad and so far none of the big three parties are willing to properly address it but the BNP aren't offering solutions either other than boot everyone out which wouldn't work.

I think Labour did just announce a points system not to long ago but that doesn't apply to EU member economic migrants or Asylum Seekers which is what really makes up the majority of the immigrants in Britain.

Ace did you see that BBC show about the UK border control. There where about 30 to 40 male immigrants mostly from afghanistan and the middle east who break into vans in France and sneak into britain.

This happens every night and the border control people can only check so many vans. The people they do check have their details taken and are sent back but will try again. UK Border control needs to triple in size if its even gonna make a dent in illegal immigration.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

This sounds like a prequel to Children of Men, without the infertility part.

So there is something wrong with only letting people who can offer our country something in return in?

So there is something wrong with putting natives ahead of immigrants in terms of housing and employment?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I agree with Ace Of Knaves Britains immigration policy is bad and so far none of the big three parties are willing to properly address it but the BNP aren't offering solutions either other than boot everyone out which wouldn't work.

I think Labour did just announce a points system not to long ago but that doesn't apply to EU member economic migrants or Asylum Seekers which is what really makes up the majority of the immigrants in Britain.

Ace did you see that BBC show about the UK border control. There where about 30 to 40 male immigrants mostly from afghanistan and the middle east who break into vans in France and sneak into britain.

This happens every night and the border control people can only check so many vans. The people they do check have their details taken and are sent back but will try again. UK Border control needs to triple in size if its even gonna make a dent in illegal immigration.

No I didn't see that program but I know all about the situation. It's a disgrace.

 

[Hound55]

I"m Australian.

We were cast out of Britain for being too British and became destined to be the laid-back, drunkards that we are, who go out and beat the British at the games they invent.

Although 11 Australians seemed to forget this at Lords last week...

Nevermind... she'll be right...

 

[union_jak]

Too British? I thought the originals were dumped in Australia for being too dangerous!?

 

[Hound55]

Po-tay-to, Po-tah-to...


In seriousness, it came down to overcrowding, many did little more than steal a loaf of bread.

Still... we have sweet beaches and Australian summers... who's complaining?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Hey I like the Aussies.

Freddie demolished you guys though

Johnson must of been ****ting himself when Fred was running down the pitch.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Po-tay-to, Po-tah-to...


In seriousness, it came down to overcrowding, many did little more than steal a loaf of bread.

Still... we have sweet beaches and Australian summers... who's complaining?

Kangaroos.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Aborigines?

 

[Majic Walrus]

Aborigines?

Them too.

 

[union_jak]

Damn, great minds think alike. I was going to say both Kangaroos and Aborigines, but I decided against dragging this into an Australian thread.

 

[Captain_BluTac]

Back to Britishness, I stumbled across a group of doggers this evening and now I feel a little queasy.

 

[union_jak]

You mean, you looked up where the next meeting is and decided to seek them out but changed your mind upon seeing who they were?

 

[JAK®]

No I didn't see that program but I know all about the situation. It's a disgrace.

The problem with the current immigration policy is that it is ridden with white guilt.

A large part of british culture is being afraid of offending people. When you mix that up with immigration policies you get problems.

 

[Captain_BluTac]

You mean, you looked up where the next meeting is and decided to seek them out but changed your mind upon seeing who they were?

haha shut up you tosser, I was walking to my mate Kayleigh's house via these woods near my house, then just as I was leaving (through the road entrance) there was just... so much old people flesh up against the glass.

 

[AndThePickles]

Back to Britishness, I stumbled across a group of doggers this evening and now I feel a little queasy.

What are doggers? For the British-challenged

 

[Captain_BluTac]

What are doggers? For the British-challenged

1. doggers
voyeurs who watch couples ****ing in the woods

It's surprisingly popular with middle-class, middle aged couples.... Think of it like a swingers party in a public place.

Edit - A better definition

1. dogging 482 up, 139 down love it hate it

Dogging actually derives from the term 'walking the dog'. It is a pastime that has evolved from blokes taking their dogs for walks and stumbling across couples at it in bushes etc. They originally only spied on these couples.

The 'sport' has now become much more organized and seedy - with regular meeting places, and more or less a free-for-all spirit.
"I'm just taking the dog out for a walk love"
"Okay, don't be 5 hours this time, and try not to get so muddy"

 

[AndThePickles]

It's surprisingly popular with middle-class, middle aged couples.... Think of it like a swingers party in a public place.

Edit - A better definition

Haha, wow. That is not something we have in the US...at least not to that kind of popularized extent.

 

[union_jak]

haha shut up you tosser, I was walking to my mate Kayleigh's house via these woods near my house, then just as I was leaving (through the road entrance) there was just... so much old people flesh up against the glass.

lol don't you always have 'encounters' when you walk through the woods?

 

[Captain_BluTac]

lol don't you always have 'encounters' when you walk through the woods?

I see the occasional dirty old men / couples who have just left the pub. but doggers! eeeeeeeeeeeew! that's a new one on me... sort of.