..Yet another British terrorist attack...

[Whirlysplat]

I guess it would depend on which "extreme" you would consider be doing the propagating.

In this case the extremists blowing up stations in my home town last year and trying to blow up trains this year. Although I take your point.

- Whirly

 

[celldog]

So a terror plot is foiled, and people are making up conspiracy theories regarding it? why are there so many ******s on the intnernet?

They'd be happier if it had succeeded. I honestly believe that most on these boards are rooting for the Islamo-nutjobs. It's all anti-America...anti Bush rhetoric around here.

 

[zanos]

Enough already with all these delays at the airports. For god's sake just screen middle eastern ppl. They're the terrorists!! Forget about 16 year old cheerleaders, elderly senior citizens and former ex vice presidents. Use freaking common sense and you won't have make ppl wait 12 hours to board a plane.

 

[xwolverine2]

wow...and i just saw V for Vendetta........

......who do i believe?

 

[Edd Extraordinaire]

So a terror plot is foiled, and people are making up conspiracy theories regarding it? why are there so many ******s on the intnernet?

I look at you and ask the same question.

 

[logansoldcigar]

We'll see about that when thousands of Brits actually die.

weve done plenty of that in terrorist attacks over the years.
Or do the IRA not count, seeing as they were white and didnt have big beards?

heres a funny thing:
guess where most of the IRAs funding came from over the years?

 

[logansoldcigar]

i'm pretty proud of our counter terrorism mesaures here. We seem to be coping admirably, but then we always do. Rule Britannia.

yep Jean Charles de Menzez(sp?) family are very pleased with our counter terrorism measures. as are the two guys from Forest gate.

 

[Edd Extraordinaire]

Well done loganscoldcigar. WELL DONE. What they did to him was unspeakable, cold murder.

 

[logansoldcigar]

1. Iraq was probably among the most ready ME countries that could be made into an attractive democracy, which would put pressure on the other ME countries to move towards being more democratic. Iran knew this and that is why Iran is very much involved in trying to defeat this.
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Its a subjective point, but that probably not true. There people in Iran were heading down a road that was increasingly in favour of closer ties with the west. The current ayatollah is considered quite moderate, despite the banning of a great many reformist election candididates, and he generally keeps on top of the hardliners, and the political parties gaining success in the elected side of the Iranian system, (because they have a system that is actually very democratic) were the moderate parties.even despite the banning, reformists stood on 191 of the 250 seats
then, in the presidential election that takes place a scant 4 months after the invasion of Iraq, they vote for the hard line nutbag. what does that tell you? the country they were at war with for years is getting a slapping, and they vote for the people that say its wrong.

interestingly as well, because all candidates must be men of faith,(mujtahid,..scholars of islam) they guarantee representation for the 3 minority religions as well: Christianity, Zoanastrism and Judiaism.

actually, its a pretty democratic place.

 

[Won '08]

If you do not support Israel, then you support Hezbollah.

Hezbollah = Terroritst Group

You're joking....

 

[Matt]

Its a subjective point, but that probably not true. There people in Iran were heading down a road that was increasingly in favour of closer ties with the west. The current ayatollah is considered quite moderate, despite the banning of a great many reformist election candididates, and he generally keeps on top of the hardliners, and the political parties gaining success in the elected side of the Iranian system, (because they have a system that is actually very democratic) were the moderate parties.even despite the banning, reformists stood on 191 of the 250 seats
then, in the presidential election that takes place a scant 4 months after the invasion of Iraq, they vote for the hard line nutbag. what does that tell you? the country they were at war with for years is getting a slapping, and they vote for the people that say its wrong.

interestingly as well, because all candidates must be men of faith,(mujtahid,..scholars of islam) they guarantee representation for the 3 minority religions as well: Christianity, Zoanastrism and Judiaism.

actually, its a pretty democratic place.

While a good point, I think the bigger question presented by Jonty's post is...what gives America the right to run around and decide how a soveirgn country's government should work?

 

[Won '08]

They'd be happier if it had succeeded. I honestly believe that most on these boards are rooting for the Islamo-nutjobs. It's all anti-America...anti Bush rhetoric around here.

The person who holds the shield in your avatar wouldn't dare say such sickening bs.

 

[Won '08]

Remember 9/11 or the tower bombings of 1992 or the beirut bombings in 1982?

The US was neither in Afghanistan or Iraq when they pulled off those.

You mean to your knowledge.

 

[Alonsovich]

DEUS VULT!!!


























Disclaimer: This post is merely offensive and has the objective of pissing off as much people as possible. Whoever can't handle this post with a sense of humor then he/she can go f**k him/herself.

 

[logansoldcigar]

and, of course, the traditional "Dictators are only Dictators when it suits us" attitude that governments make.

Pervez Musharraf, any one?

Not exactly a bastion of democracy, Pakistan:

On 12 May 2000, the Supreme Court of Pakistan ordered Musharraf to hold national elections by 12 October 2002, Elections for local governments took place in 2001. Elections for the national and provincial legislatures were held in October 2002, with no party winning a majority. In November 2002, Musharraf handed over certain powers to the newly elected Parliament. The National Assembly elected Mir Zafarullah Khan Jamali as Prime Minister of Pakistan, who in turn appointed his own cabinet.

On January 1, 2004 Musharraf won a confidence vote in the Electoral College of Pakistan, consisting of both houses of Parliament and the four provincial assemblies which are dominated by the landed elite of the country, most of whom have been given governmental posts under Musharraf. Musharraf received 658 out of 1170 votes, a 56% majority, but many opposition and Islamic members of parliament walked out to protest the vote. As a result of this vote, according to Article 41(8) of the Constitution of Pakistan, Musharraf was "deemed to be elected" to the office of President. His term now extends to 2007.

Prime Minister Jamali resigned on 26 June 2004. His resignation is widely believed to be on the command of General Pervez Musharraf. Jamali, in the first place was appointed by Musharraf, who controls the PML(Q). He formed PML(Q) by horsetrading with different parties (largely the PML(N) and the PPPP). Most of the ministers of the cabinet were senior members of other parties, who joined PML(Q) after the elections just because Musharraf promised them important offices in the government. Musharraf replaced Jamali due to his poor performance and in his place Musharraf appointed Shaukat Aziz, a former Vice President of Citibank and head of Citibank Private Banking as the new prime minister. Musharraf choose Shaukat Aziz due to his successful measures in revitalizing Pakistan's economy as the Finance Minister. The new government is mostly supportive of Musharraf, who remains the President and Head of State in the new government. Musharraf continues to be the active executive of Pakistan, especially in foreign affairs. Although whether he stays the president after he gives up the post of Chief of Army staff is still to be seen.

 

[Fred_Fury]

terrorism doesnt exist! this is an evil plot by the bush administration and tony blair!!! rethuglikkkans!!!

/sarcasm

 

[celldog]

Enough already with all these delays at the airports. For god's sake just screen middle eastern ppl. They're the terrorists!! Forget about 16 year old cheerleaders, elderly senior citizens and former ex vice presidents. Use freaking common sense and you won't have make ppl wait 12 hours to board a plane.

oooooooooooooooohhhh.... but that would be "racial profiling"!!! LOL

This is insane!! We are to pretend that we have not had hundreds of these types of incidences to be able to come up with a "profile" on the kinds of people that committ these crimes??????

Don't they have a "profile" on serial killers???? Usually white males...etc....?


That's where you start!!! Is that what you will always end up with?? No!! But it's common sense!! Following documented facts!! It ain't granny!!!

It's middle eastern males!!!! Period!! Can there be others?? Yes!! But you start with them first!! In every case it's been the same!!!

Quit denying what our eyes clearly see!!! Not all middle easterners are terrorists. But all of the terrorists have been middle eastern...and Muslim!!! Deal with it!

Thank God the Brits caught this!!

By the way...these are the same kind of animals we have locked up in GITMO.

 

[kane9321]

I look at you and ask the same question.

damnit I was gonna say that,ya beat me to it

 

[War Lord]

weve done plenty of that in terrorist attacks over the years.
Or do the IRA not count, seeing as they were white and didnt have big beards?

heres a funny thing:
guess where most of the IRAs funding came from over the years?

I couldn't care less where the funding comes from.

 

[logansoldcigar]

oooooooooooooooohhhh.... but that would be "racial profiling"!!! LOL

This is insane!! We are to pretend that we have not had hundreds of these types of incidences to be able to come up with a "profile" on the kinds of people that committ these crimes??????

Don't they have a "profile" on serial killers???? Usually white males...etc....?


That's where you start!!! Is that what you will always end up with?? No!! But it's common sense!! Following documented facts!! It ain't granny!!!

It's middle eastern males!!!! Period!! Can there be others?? Yes!! But you start with them first!! In every case it's been the same!!!

Quit denying what our eyes clearly see!!! Not all middle easterners are terrorists. But all of the terrorists have been middle eastern...and Muslim!!! Deal with it!

Thank God the Brits caught this!!

By the way...these are the same kind of animals we have locked up in GITMO.

Yeah, the same british inteillegence that shot n killed a brazilian electrician for errr well, nothing, actually.

and then a few months later, shot a guy in his own home, for errrrr well, nothing really.(mind you, he did have a big beard)

until people are tried and found guilty, how about we dont run around condemning them.

Quit denying what our eyes clearly see!!! Not all middle easterners are terrorists. But all of the terrorists have been middle eastern...and Muslim!!! Deal with it!

Not counting the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, the Kashmiri seperatists, the chechen seperatists,the following little list(all considered as active domestic terror groups, although only a fool thinks the IRA purely were domestic)


Continuity Army Council (CAC)
Cumann na mBan
Fianna na hÉireann, a name claimed by multiple groups
Irish National Liberation Army (INLA)
Irish People's Liberation Organisation (IPLO)
Irish Republican Army (IRA), which covers the Provisional IRA (PIRA), Official IRA, 'Real' IRA (RIRA) and Continuity IRA (CIRA), each of which uses the name IRA
Loyalist Volunteer Force (LVF)
Orange Volunteers
Red Hand Commando
Red Hand Defenders
Saor Éire
Ulster Defence Association (UDA)
Ulster Freedom Fighters (UFF)
Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF)

source: http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/security/terrorism-and-the-law/terrorism-act/proscribed-groups

the ETA in spain, the November 17 group in Greece, Aum Shinrikyo in japan, New People's army in the phillippines, Kongra-Gel (a workers group) in Kurdistan, FARC in columbia, revolutionary Nuclei in Greece, shining path in Peru,AUC in Columbia.

Yes, Ive deliberatly missed out the Islamic ones.

EditI forgot to change the size and embolden random words, cos in cell dogs world, that seems to make the post more relevant

 

[Iceman]

But all of the terrorists have been middle eastern...and Muslim!!!

If you're including white converts, Africans and South Asians in your definition of "Middle Eastern" you could be correct.

 

[The Overlord]

Yes, but pissing off the US isn't exactly a wise move for Muslims.

Most of these terrorists are insane religious fundamentalists, they don't have much time for common sense. They believe they can defeat the west because God is on their side, despite the odds being against them. These are not rational people.

 

[regwec]

The odds are against them?

 

[War Lord]

Most of these terrorists are insane religious fundamentalists, they don't have much time for common sense. They believe they can defeat the west because God is on their side, despite the odds being against them. These are not rational people.

The odds are not against them. It would be if the West was strong, but many places like Europe are practically ready to surrender now.

 

[The Overlord]

The odds are not against them. It would be if the West was strong, but many places like Europe are practically ready to surrender now.

Really now your being overdramatic, I doubt Europe is just going to roll over and adopt Islamic theoratic governments, that's just silly. Besides Holland is the most liberal country in Europe and it has adopted the toughest immigration standards in Europe. I mean is that how you define a surrender?