Best Animated Feature.

[TheSaintofKillers]

Can't believe i forgot Who Framed Rodger Rabbit. That was a great movie. I have to get that on dvd. I was going to put a japanese feature cartoon up there but i could remember that many for i really don't fallow it. Dragonball Z had some great movies and love the Inuyasha movies. I was going to put Kiki's Delivery Service.

Dark Crystal and any Muppet movie is not a cartoon for i was going for animation. As you notice Muppet movies are very real. Who Framed Rodger Rabbit should have been up there for it has animated character in it. But unlike Ghostworld it was aimed for kids.

Agree. I love Jim Henson, and while it is animated in a way, it shouldn't be in there. Kiki should have definately! Have you seen more Miyazaki movies ? Care to elaborate why there is such a low numbers (zero) of animated movies out of america ?

(because yes, Russia, France, Japan and many others have been pionners just as much sometimes as America has been, and should be seen, imo!)

 

[Golgo-13]

Transformers:The Movie without a doubt.

 

[Leto Atrides]

[Reply to me being *****y]

I get what you mean, it's just the way you put it it seemed like you were trying to show off by naming lots of stuff. And I also confused your post with Movies205 when he said something about the list being ignorant. The self-important crack was uncalled for though, sorry. I'm probably halfway between the two of you as far as information goes though. I know about Japanese animation, and some about European though I haven't seen much of it.

It just seems like in every thread like this, someone makes a sample list for a poll and that's taken as the only choices and everyone argues about that for the whole thread, instead of the question at hand. If you had just talked about the movies, I wouldn't have thought anything bad of it. It was the way it was framed that "you should come back and make a new poll when you know more".

 

[TheSaintofKillers]

I get what you mean, it's just the way you put it it seemed like you were trying to show off by naming lots of stuff. And I also confused your post with Movies205 when he said something about the list being ignorant. The self-important crack was uncalled for though, sorry. I'm probably halfway between the two of you as far as information goes though. I know about Japanese animation, and some about European though I haven't seen much of it.

It just seems like in every thread like this, someone makes a sample list for a poll and that's taken as the only choices and everyone argues about that for the whole thread, instead of the question at hand. If you had just talked about the movies, I wouldn't have thought anything bad of it. It was the way it was framed that "you should come back and make a new poll when you know more".

Agree. I should have come and said "you should see this and this" instead of saying you should have put this and this. If he hasn't seen them, or doesn't know about them, it should be our duty to make these movies know to him instead, just like i'd love having people come in here who knows more than I do or as much and suggest gems to me.

Still, you get the point, and I hope he does. One of my biggest letdown on superherohype here is that it is hard to get a good conversation without implying something. It sucks, but when I first got here 2 or 3 years ago, I would post like I did above, but without any witty comment or judgement made. And of course I wouldn't get any reply. Got to be boring, and I guess I changed. I'll try the old way next time, who knows, times might have changed.

 

[kytrigger]

Grave of the Fireflies

 

[Golgo-13]

Wow, Thesaintofkillers and Leto Atrides sound like a married couple....

 

[Leto Atrides]

Still, you get the point, and I hope he does. One of my biggest letdown on superherohype here is that it is hard to get a good conversation without implying something. It sucks, but when I first got here 2 or 3 years ago, I would post like I did above, but without any witty comment or judgement made. And of course I wouldn't get any reply. Got to be boring, and I guess I changed. I'll try the old way next time, who knows, times might have changed.

Probably why I called you self-important.

 

[Leto Atrides]

Wow, Thesaintofkillers and Leto Atrides sound like a married couple....

"I'm sorry I yelled at you honey."

 

[TheSaintofKillers]

Wow, Thesaintofkillers and Leto Atrides sound like a married couple....

Ok, that sucked.

 

[WeaponZ2]

This is another poll that I cant make a real pick on. But I love Don Bluth...

 

[TheSaintofKillers]

Probably why I called you self-important.

True, had you not called me something, I might not have responded, who knows. This why things suck most of the time here, imo.

 

[StorminNorman]

Where is the greatest Dinsey movie of all time? Aladdin.

 

[TheSaintofKillers]

Grave of the Fireflies

Hell yeah! Spread the Takahata love!

I rarely see Takahata vs Miyazaki post though. I mean, never. You'd think these two modern famous animated directors would get pit against each others more often.

Personnally, i'm torn. I mean, I prefer Miya, but if I try not to be biais (then again, what is biais ? I got bias vouching for miya because of how good I find him, so it does make sense) i'm still saying miya.

Both have got very distinct styles. Way back in the 60's and 70's, they were much more alike (they did work together their whole carreer. Takahata got to direct before Miyazaki, but Miya always seemed like the one with the biggest ideas), but Takahata always prefered to have something much deeper within his movies and ideas, while Miya prefer to just tell a wonderful story that transcend any messages.

Now, Takahata tried many things. Unlike many directors, he's gone from doing child cartoon, to a musical (Goshu) about what is music to real life tragedy to making one of the most melancolic movie ever made (Only yesterday) to simply adapting a comic strip on screen (Yamadas). But while he's diverse and tries to reinvent animation each time (by questionning people's belief in animation itself), some of his movies' quality isn't always equal. His Grave of the fireflies is a milestone in animation, while his Pom Poko (a great movie nonetheless) is far inferior, imo. Interesting, but not on par.

Miya, unlike Takahata, kept a hight standard his whole carreer. He's tried to change genre, but his style has always stayed the same. In doing so, you can go back and watch Totoro and admire his simplicity and then jump in the more epic and complex Mononoke without ever loosing any quality in doing so.

So, imo, Miya wins. But not by much.

edit: and I picked the Iron Giant out of all of those. While there are some great ones, few of them connected with me as much as this one did. Heck, Brad Bird is one of the only GOOD director in Hollywood these days able to get financed and make a movie. A shame that studios prefer to go with crap and generic formula.

And I cant believe Steve Oedekerk directed that recent CGI turd Barnyard. Would I not know he did, and I would now learn he was making an animated movie, i'd be all excited about it. Now that I know he already has done one, and it's THAT bad, I'm lost, sniff.

 

[Movies205]

Awwww, someone else with my view! Missing a lot of key element in animation here that I think are prime exemples of animation field, but at least it's a little more deep than the main poster's thread. Still, it is indeed naming just a few.

(the king and the mockingbird is a must no matter what! It inspired so many things it's crazy)

Seeminly we cross paths on a periodical basis it seems, as for missing, I doi not claim to be an animation guru especially internationally but I'v eseen a good bit of american animation. As for Bashki I've seen a good deal of his work and he's an enigma since on the one hand his work was pioneer but none of his pieces ever manage to reach more than just good. American Pop and Fritz the Cat being his best work imo.

As for animation, I wish more respects were pay to theatrical shorts other than being labeled simple kiddie fare.

 

[Movies205]

Can't believe i forgot Who Framed Rodger Rabbit. That was a great movie. I have to get that on dvd. I was going to put a japanese feature cartoon up there but i could remember that many for i really don't fallow it. Dragonball Z had some great movies and love the Inuyasha movies. I was going to put Kiki's Delivery Service.

Dark Crystal and any Muppet movie is not a cartoon for i was going for animation. As you notice Muppet movies are very real. Who Framed Rodger Rabbit should have been up there for it has animated character in it. But unlike Ghostworld it was aimed for kids.

You=Ignorant to wonderful world of animation...

Dragonball Z I have enjoyed from time to time but how in god's name could you put that up there with Bashki or Miyazaki.

Also you insult everyone in the animation industry by saying that animation is for kids, animation was never even attended for that. Windsor McKay, the creator of the first hand-drawn animation ever, actually threw a fit of anger when he saw what the next generation of animators did with his creation by using it for comedy.

Further more on puppetry... I'd consider it in the animation catagory because obviously this has NO RESTRAINTS... You go from CGI, Handdrawn, mixed-liveaction, retroscoping*SP, and stop-motion those are all very different arts and you lump them all in the same catagory. The only two things that link them together are the fact that there artificial characters made to look like there alive and the fact that there done frame by frame but in the case of Retroscoping, CGI, and Live-ACtion this is not the case at all. So in either case in a poll as braod as this, I'd say they belong. Also further more I did not say Muppet Movie which I believe would be pushing it since it relied more on it's great acting/writing while Dark Crystal is an absolutely beautiful film in terms of art.

 

[xwolverine2]

dragon ball z doesnt really count imo
so.......the incredibles

 

[TheSaintofKillers]

Seeminly we cross paths on a periodical basis it seems, as for missing, I doi not claim to be an animation guru especially internationally but I'v eseen a good bit of american animation. As for Bashki I've seen a good deal of his work and he's an enigma since on the one hand his work was pioneer but none of his pieces ever manage to reach more than just good. American Pop and Fritz the Cat being his best work imo.

As for animation, I wish more respects were pay to theatrical shorts other than being labeled simple kiddie fare.

I've got a great animation collection of short russian movies narrated by Boris Karloff here that one of my friend lend to me this week. It's named The puppet films of Jiri Trnka. Ever heard of it ? Looks pretty sweet.

Or maybe someone else know anything about it ?

(btw, Movies205, i'd greatly recommend digging into european animation. While i've only look at the surface, they are pionners that should be seen. Believe it or not, but Paul Grummault's The king and the mockingbird was one of Hayao Miyazaki's biggest revelation and inspiration. Heck, he even paid one hell of a great homage with his castle in Castle of cagliostro. Most of his castles admiration in his many movies come from seeing that movie (which was a short in the 60's that got extended as a longer movie in the 80's by the same people)

 

[Movies205]

I've got a great animation collection of short russian movies narrated by Boris Karloff here that one of my friend lend to me this week. It's named The puppet films of Jiri Trnka. Ever heard of it ? Looks pretty sweet.

Or maybe someone else know anything about it ?

(btw, Movies205, i'd greatly recommend digging into european animation. While i've only look at the surface, they are pionners that should be seen. Believe it or not, but Paul Grummault's The king and the mockingbird was one of Hayao Miyazaki's biggest revelation and inspiration. Heck, he even paid one hell of a great homage with his castle in Castle of cagliostro. Most of his castles admiration in his many movies come from seeing that movie (which was a short in the 60's that got extended as a longer movie in the 80's by the same people)

I plan on to eventually, I try to see as much as possible but at the moment I'm in college so my movie watching has been cut severly and what I do watch is still diverse but not nearly as diverse as it was over the summer when I had netflix... When I go home for christmas break, I'll use my parents netflix to get some more internation animation flixs.

 

[TheSaintofKillers]

I plan on to eventually, I try to see as much as possible but at the moment I'm in college so my movie watching has been cut severly and what I do watch is still diverse but not nearly as diverse as it was over the summer when I had netflix... When I go home for christmas break, I'll use my parents netflix to get some more internation animation flixs.

University here. Same problem. I've truly slow down both doing movies and watching them. Seems life push people to do that, usually.

Just had time to finish watching Avatar season 1, though. Took me 1 whole month, but damn, it was pretty good, and such a fresh air to most anime series out there. It was pretty fun to finally see american do justice to animation on tv (well, aside from comedy, which they excede usually).

I'm gone watching Monster house with my little sister. I'm usually disgusted by recent bad CGI movies Hollywood has been releasing, but i'm giving this one a chance since Harry from aint-it-cool-news really liked it, and the last time I took his opinion seriously on animation, I ended up watching 4 years ago (or 3) the Iron giant. I'm hoping for something good.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I give kudos to Bloodywolverine for at least TRYING to come up with a good poll, instead of just having "Shrek, Shrek 2, the Incredibles, etc."

My vote in the "other" category goes to The Plague Dogs.

 

[BloodyWolverine]

There is so many good anumation movies out there. The Secret Of Nimh kinda scared me a little as child. It was a great Bluth film. I again must say i neevr eally fallowed much japanese anima in the movie form. I fallowed it mostly on toonami in just the cartoons. I saw a desent animated feature tonight it was a Hellboy animated movie with Ron Pearlmen. I also liked comic book movies of the Avengers 1 and Justic League The Worlds Finest. And of course Batman Mask Of The Fantasum. I also liked the Batman Beyond movie with the Joker in it.
I liked many animated movies and it was eally hard to just select 24. I choose Disney for they started the animated feature movies and Bambi was one of the best animal animated films in a long time. The Lion King Ofcourse finally over took it. I meant no offense to any ones animated movie preferance. I just felt it was safer for me to pick other for i don't know a great wide margin of animated movies out side of Disney, Don Bluth and so on.

 

[BloodyWolverine]

Hey this anyone checking out Happy Feet for it looks like the best Animated films of this type this year besideds Cars. I liked a mavie called Doogal but i'm probably the only one.

 

[WallCrawl]

University here. Same problem. I've truly slow down both doing movies and watching them. Seems life push people to do that, usually.

Just had time to finish watching Avatar season 1, though. Took me 1 whole month, but damn, it was pretty good, and such a fresh air to most anime series out there. It was pretty fun to finally see american do justice to animation on tv (well, aside from comedy, which they excede usually).

I'm gone watching Monster house with my little sister. I'm usually disgusted by recent bad CGI movies Hollywood has been releasing, but i'm giving this one a chance since Harry from aint-it-cool-news really liked it, and the last time I took his opinion seriously on animation, I ended up watching 4 years ago (or 3) the Iron giant. I'm hoping for something good.

Monster House was decent simply because the kids act like actual kids, not smart-aleck mini-adults.

If you like Trnka, there's a 4 partdvd series called Masters of Russian Animation out. It has some of the more famous shorts like Tale of Tales, Hedgehog in the Fog, and Film Film Film, as well as others.

 

[TheSaintofKillers]

Monster House was decent simply because the kids act like actual kids, not smart-aleck mini-adults.

If you like Trnka, there's a 4 partdvd series called Masters of Russian Animation out. It has some of the more famous shorts like Tale of Tales, Hedgehog in the Fog, and Film Film Film, as well as others.

Wah, cool. I'll give those a shot if I enjoy the work of Trnka.

Just saw Monster house last night. Really like it. Sure, far from being the best, but it had more originality and heart than any animation from Hollywood (aside from some Pixar, maybe) these last few years. The house design was very great.

Only downfall, imo, is that it would have been much more beautiful in 2D. There's a painting section of the entire movie in the extras, and my god, it simply blows away the generic 3D the movie uses. Sigh.

 

[Hellstormer]

NBX man, nothing can touch it. Its not even truly animated and its still the best animated feature.