Best villain this year(so far)?

[Steamteck]

For me

Lex
Ajax
Apocalypse
Zemo

I know, I'm wrong in every conceivable way but that's how they felt to me.

 

[PelvicSorcery]

Enchantress was just so bad. Like, on par with the awful villain in the new Ghostbusters movie.

I wasn't aware that she was the main antagonist going into it, and Cara Delevingne just didn't have the charisma or experience to pull it off. She looked so wooden, lifeless, and awkward in most of her scenes. She's not going to go very far as a model turned actress if that's the best she could do. Granted the character itself was as dull and paper thin as a villain in an episode of Power Rangers, but I still think a better actress could have brought more life to her scenes.

A lot of really strange choices in that movie, but the entire Enchantress plot really caught me off guard, especially with how generic it was. A supernatural being finding itself in a big city and attempting to create an army of mindless minions to take over the world? And that's the bulk of what the Suicide Squad has to deal with? Snore. Not what I was expecting.

 

[Bayne]

Zemo - Absolutely incredible - great pathos, great motivation, simple goals and an actually surprisingly simple, almost fool-proof plan to achieve them. One of the best ever.
Apocalypse - Disappointing compared to the comics, but he had some refreshing qualities (like the fact that he didn't sit and scheme forever like every villain ever and instead just acts with direct confidence and purpose). If he had had a decent fight scene, I would've really liked him.
Enchantress - She was let down by the second and third act, but she was genuinely creepy at the beginning of the movie.
Ajax - Nothing terrible about him, but just totally generic.
Luthor - I don't hate the performance the way many do, but he just makes no sense and has no real menace or intrigue.

 

[Lantern Venom]

" My father lived outside the city, and I thought we would be safe there. My son was excited. He could see the Iron Man from the car window. I told my wife, "Don't worry. They're fighting in the city. We're miles from harm." And the dust cleared, and the screaming stopped. It took me two days until I found their bodies. My father still holding my wife and son in his arms... And the Avengers? They went home. I knew I couldn't kill them. More powerful men than me have tried. But if I could get them to kill each other... I'm sorry about your father. He seemed a good man, with a dutiful son."-Zemo

This had me sympathising with Zemo. He lost everything and he was a man with nothing to lose.

I'm sure I'll be the only one in this thread to say so, but that was the worst scene in CW. I rolled my eyes at that speech, and it's probably the only part of the movie that I really disliked. That should have been the point where Zemo monologued about how Western ideals and/or individual freedom always ended with chaos and pain, even in the case of heroes. Then he could have peeled off his mask (that should have been there) to reveal a raw hamburger face that he could have blamed on Cap and the Avengers. Zemo shouldn't have been sympathetic at all, and to top it off, he was suicidal? Give me a break.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Zemo - Absolutely incredible - great pathos, great motivation, simple goals and an actually surprisingly simple, almost fool-proof plan to achieve them. One of the best ever.
Apocalypse - Disappointing compared to the comics, but he had some refreshing qualities (like the fact that he didn't sit and scheme forever like every villain ever and instead just acts with direct confidence and purpose). If he had had a decent fight scene, I would've really liked him.
Enchantress - She was let down by the second and third act, but she was genuinely creepy at the beginning of the movie.
Ajax - Nothing terrible about him, but just totally generic.
Luthor - I don't hate the performance the way many do, but he just makes no sense and has no real menace or intrigue.

Agreed about Enchantress's first few scenes, I found them genuinely creepy and thought people had got this one wrong at first. But yeah she was let down in the rear of the movie.

I still don't think she was as bad as some make out, but she wasn't good overall.

 

[The Joker]

Enchantress was just so bad. Like, on par with the awful villain in the new Ghostbusters movie.

I wasn't aware that she was the main antagonist going into it, and Cara Delevingne just didn't have the charisma or experience to pull it off. She looked so wooden, lifeless, and awkward in most of her scenes. She's not going to go very far as a model turned actress if that's the best she could do. Granted the character itself was as dull and paper thin as a villain in an episode of Power Rangers, but I still think a better actress could have brought more life to her scenes.

A lot of really strange choices in that movie, but the entire Enchantress plot really caught me off guard, especially with how generic it was. A supernatural being finding itself in a big city and attempting to create an army of mindless minions to take over the world? And that's the bulk of what the Suicide Squad has to deal with? Snore. Not what I was expecting.

Well said.

 

[Bats123]

Well said.

Indeed, the character is just so dumb and non-sensical, she says she's gonna build a machine to destroy humanity, and then like, she creates a CG mess of magical clouds or whatever the **** that was, and what does this """"machine"""" do? it shoots.......lightning.......what? and then what she does with this thing, she takes down a couple government buildings? was that her plan? to destroy every single government related...thing...in the world?

 

[Breogan]

That's cause the clueless are caught up obsessing on the pretty lights and McGuffin, instead of Waller who was the real villain.
Whose Machiavellian deviousness, hands down beat everyone on this poll.

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[Bats123]

That's cause the clueless are caught up obsessing on the pretty lights and McGuffin, instead of Waller who was the real villain.
And hands down beats everyone on this poll.

yeah i dont buy that...

 

[Breogan]

... instead of Waller who was the real villain.

yeah i dont buy that...

Right, cause you knew going in Batman had cut a deal with the devil, and it was her they were saving.
No, you didn't.

Meanwhile, you're still thinking;

Look at the pretty lights.

 

[Bats123]

Right, cause you knew going in Batman had cut a deal with the devil, and it was her they were saving.

Meanwhile after seeing it, you're still thinking.

Look at the pretty lights.

You're being rude for no reason at all, Waller was doing her job, and sure she did some things under the table, but she wasnt inherently evil, and if you think Enchantress wanst the main villian you're lying to yourself.

 

[Breogan]

she wasnt inherently evil,

She wouldn't have to be.
Who said "evil" must be inherent?
Hence you missed the point of the film, and missed the real villain while you're still looking at the pretty lights.

if you think Enchantress wanst the main villian you're lying to yourself.

Wow, you really missed it all.
Enchantress like the others had their heart in a literal "box....
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While the real villain of the movie which you apparently missed, held a knife to it.

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... partaking in their sacrifice.

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[Bats123]

She wouldn't have to be.
Who said "evil" was inherent?
You apparently think evil must be inherent?
It's not.
Hence you missed the point of the film, and missed the real villain while you're still looking at the lights.


Wow, you really missed it all.
Enchantress like all the other what you call "villains" had her heart in a "box" = cage.

While the real villain of the movie which you missed, had a knife at all their hearts.

So are they not villians? are they not bad guys? why are they imprisioned then? I didnt see Waller as a villian, she was a high profile government person that had a job to do, even if meant doing stuff under the table, Enchantress was the one that wanted to destroy mankind, how can you say she's not the main antagonist of the movie? specially when Enchantress not only captures Waller but has her at her will, extracting important information from her mind.
And thats all im gonna say cus you cant seem to have a conversation without recurring to mocking and insulting like a 12 year old. Good day fam.

 

[Breogan]

So are they not villians? are they not bad guys?

The whole movie was about subverting that notion.
You're thinking in black or white, when every character here existed in the gray.

Again, what makes you think "evil" is inherent?
Or that that would even qualify as a good villain?
What makes Waller a better villain than those listed, is implicitly that it's not inherent.
...........The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

she wasnt inherently evil,

It's not about that, it's about the choices one makes.

 

[Mjölnir]

I don't see Waller as the villain, since while she has very questionable methods to say the least, there's two other characters that are actively trying to end the world and Waller wants to stop them from doing that. She's at the very least clearly the lesser of evils.

To me saying that Waller is the real villain in SS is like saying Thaddeus Ross is the real villain of Civil War.

 

[Bats123]

I don't see Waller as the villain, since while she has very questionable methods to say the least, there's two other characters that are actively trying to end the world and Waller wants to stop them from doing that. She's at the very least clearly the lesser of evils.

To me saying that Waller is the real villain in SS is like saying Thaddeus Ross is the real villain of Civil War.

Exactly

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Enchantress was just so bad. Like, on par with the awful villain in the new Ghostbusters movie.

I wasn't aware that she was the main antagonist going into it, and Cara Delevingne just didn't have the charisma or experience to pull it off. She looked so wooden, lifeless, and awkward in most of her scenes. She's not going to go very far as a model turned actress if that's the best she could do. Granted the character itself was as dull and paper thin as a villain in an episode of Power Rangers, but I still think a better actress could have brought more life to her scenes.

A lot of really strange choices in that movie, but the entire Enchantress plot really caught me off guard, especially with how generic it was. A supernatural being finding itself in a big city and attempting to create an army of mindless minions to take over the world? And that's the bulk of what the Suicide Squad has to deal with? Snore. Not what I was expecting.

Agreed. Enchantress second worst villain this year after Eisenberg Lex Luthor and Leto Joker.

 

[Vchipp]

Zemo, I actual really liked him and is glad he gets a chance to come back as long as they don't do away with him like 60 secs

 

[The Joker]

No surprise Zemo stole the poll.

 

[Erzengel]

Surprised Francis/Ajax got that much love. If people complain about MCU villains, I don't see how he did anything really spectacular.

 

[The Joker]

I wouldn't call 4 votes much love.

 

[Erzengel]

My bad, for some reason I thought the number for Apocalypse was for Ajax but honestly, even though Apocalypse was better than Ajax, I wouldn't put him over most of the MCU villains.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Ajax should not be last. At least he well acted.

 

[Lantern Venom]

After watching CW again, I have to admit that I wasn't fair to Crossbones. While he was only in the film for about 10 minutes, he accomplished a great deal. The action was so fast that I didn't realize that he pinned down the Avengers to make them fight him in close quarters with civilians. Even before Wanda's partial failure to handle the blast that Rumlow set off, Crossbones pretty much assured an international incident.

He also made it personal when he said the line about being willing to die to take Cap with him. I wouldn't say he's the best villain of the year, but now I realize that he's much higher on that ladder than I previously thought.

 

[Abudefduf]

We now live in a world where this guy

actually has the chance to be a more satisfying movie villain than the likes of Baron Zemo, Lex Luthor, Apocalypse and the Joker... let that sink in for a moment.