The Dark Knight Biggest Disappointment

[The Joker]

Joker didn't laugh enough??

1. When he enters the crime lords secret meeting lair he laughs says "I thought my jokes were bad"

2. When he throws Rachel out of window at the party.

3. When Joker gets the camera and laughs....

4. When Batman throws Joker then catches him back he laughs and when Batman leaves he laughs.

Continuing...

5. When Batman asks him why he wants to kill him, Joker responds with a manical laugh.

6. When Batman is beating the crap out of him trying to find out where Harvey and Rachel are, Joker laughs his ass off.

7. When one of his thugs electrocutes himself trying to unmask the unconscious Batman, Joker jumps on him laughing and stomping on him.

8. When the helicopter is knocked out of the sky, Joker laughs sadistically.

9. When Rachel knees him at the party, he staggers back laughing.

 

[CaptainClown]

both times with the camera

 

[kmrbeckman]

Yeah I kinda felt that the Joker's laughs, at times, were kind of forced and didn't always flow naturally - but then again...sometimes they worked - I was not disappointed that the Joker lived - that's all I cared about; at least he didn't die like in Burton's version - now THAT was a disappointment!

 

[baronghede]

Yeah I kinda felt that the Joker's laughs, at times, were kind of forced and didn't always flow naturally - but then again...sometimes they worked - I was not disappointed that the Joker lived - that's all I cared about; at least he didn't die like in Burton's version - now THAT was a disappointment!

Yeah, about that...

 

[BestGirl]

Yeah, about that...

It's so wrong, but I laughed.

 

[batman11]

But you hit the nail on the head with the laughs. There was alot of Caesar in them and none of the sadistic Jack laughs. I know the mob boss scene laugh was meant to be sarcastic in tone, but it wasn't the high pitched cackle that we got from Caesar and Jack in the past. Too bad the laugh wasn't more original all around.

I'm a little confused. You say that he should have had the same high pitched laugh that we got from Jack and Caesar, yet you wanted something original. Wouldn't straying from what has been done before classify as an "original" spin on the laugh?

 

[Crook]

No, he's saying that Joker should have had more uncontrollable laughing episodes ala Jack. The endless, insane cackles, instead of the short stints Ledger gave most of the time.

 

[ultrasuperduckman]

I actually felt the same about his laugh untill that video was posted.

Now I'm thinkin' different. The laugh was actually very good, I think it's just the timing and everything going on that made me not notice it as much.

 

[bullets]

I think he managed to pull it off without going over the top.

 

[ultrasuperduckman]

Over the top is the term I was looking for. The only time I ever felt like that was the interogation room laugh. Which I still love and his comments right after it made it all the better.

I had always hoped before the movie came out that there would be a scene. It would be the climax of the film. Now I would keep everything dark knight was, but at the end Joker and Bats would fight and it would be the most intense scene of the movie. Joker would have Batman down and put a gun up to his mouth.

At the same time the ferries scene would be going on. That Joker music would be rising and right before the ferries didn't blow up Joker would pull the trigger.

Only for it to be a "bang" gun. Then he'd laugh and Batman would kick his butt.

 

[El Payaso]

Joker didn't laugh enough??

Well, it was never the amount of laughing.

Do you mean Ledger's laugh by itself, or how it was presented throughout the movie? If it's the latter, I can see where you're coming from and I felt that way during the first viewing. But if it's the former, I don't know....watch this condensed clip with all his laughs one after the other:



Asides from the first, it's pretty much all vintage Joker. It might be sacrilegious to say, but Ledger's might even be my favorite interpretation of the laugh.

As I said, nothing I can say against Ledger's laughs. If only all of them were as the last one, when he's falling from the building, and more. I just missed the massive HA HA's all over, not just creepy giggles.

 

[ultrasuperduckman]

I wish I could change my name to Creepy Giggles.

 

[El Payaso]

I wish I could change my name to Creepy Giggles.

Only if you permanently credit El Payaso as the creator of such name.

 

[batman11]

No, he's saying that Joker should have had more uncontrollable laughing episodes ala Jack. The endless, insane cackles, instead of the short stints Ledger gave most of the time.

Ah I see.

 

[Two-Face]

Bruce seemed to forgotten his parents, no mention of them or least have a portrait Bruce looking at.

 

[Ryan]

I have to admit I would have loved to have seen Heath's Joker get alittle more lost in the role. His Joker was a bit too 'in control' or appeared to in control for my liking. I also liked the above posting that Bruce should have visited the grave of his parents or something. A familiar scene in alot of Bat comics. Lastly..i was super psyched about the returning Scarecrow only to see him taken down pretty quickly in the end.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I liked that he was sorta in control though.

I noticed in the mob meeting scene when he is leaving and Gambol puts the price on his head you see him point at Gambol and the frustration and sheer hate on his face like "YOU!! You will be first to go!" but he contains himself because he doesn't wanna give to much away straight away.

It was like he was teetering on that line the whole way through the movie. Bursting at the seems with excitement and anger, but controlling it. He was like a really taut piece of wire, ready to snap at any moment. And snapping on a few occasions like the LOOK AT ME!!!!! part. Or when the helicopter crashed he let out that big laugh.

 

[Drz]

Bruce seemed to forgotten his parents, no mention of them or least have a portrait Bruce looking at.

Do you think thats necessary for every movie tho? I mean i would agree with this if it gets ignored in Batman 3 aswell but yeah... Isn't this abit too early to critize?

 

[CJ]

Not enough Two-Face. Only one mention of the name "Two-Face" No resolution to The Joker's arc. Batman just leaves him hanging, goes to meet Harvey, Gordon speech, credits. I mean, they could've EASILY put in a quick shot of the Joker yelling/squirming/laughing/crying in a straitjacket in Arkham (or prison, whatever) during the end montage.

 

[Infinity9999x]

But you hit the nail on the head with the laughs. There was alot of Caesar in them and none of the sadistic Jack laughs. I know the mob boss scene laugh was meant to be sarcastic in tone, but it wasn't the high pitched cackle that we got from Caesar and Jack in the past. Too bad the laugh wasn't more original all around.

High pitched laugh from Jack? Jack never gave a high pitched laugh. In fact, that one of the biggest complaints I have for him as the Joker. He never really had that "Joker" type laugh. Of course, at the time I was comparing him to Hammil's Joker (and let's be honest, I doubt anyone will top his laughs) but still.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Jack's laugh was great. Big whooping laughs. His laugh when he first sees his face in the mirror is my favourite ever Joker laugh. Creepy as hell.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Jack's laugh was great. Big whooping laughs. His laugh when he first sees his face in the mirror is my favourite ever Joker laugh. Creepy as hell.

That was probably my favorite laugh scene as well. But still, his other laughs never really hit me as what I thought of as "Joker" laughs. Again, it could be that I was spoiled since I grew up with Hammil and was introduced to that first, but Jack's laughs never had the "Joker" quality to me.

They were too deep, and did have the manic high-pitched energy that Hammil's did.

 

[El Payaso]

High pitched laugh from Jack? Jack never gave a high pitched laugh. In fact, that one of the biggest complaints I have for him as the Joker. He never really had that "Joker" type laugh. Of course, at the time I was comparing him to Hammil's Joker (and let's be honest, I doubt anyone will top his laughs) but still.

And why on Earth do you think Joker should have a high pitched laugh? Not that I think it's wrong but it's not a canon or something. Jack's laugh couldn't have been more Joker-ish. It filled the screen with HA's everytime he laughed.

 

[BestGirl]

Not enough Two-Face.

Fair enough. Lots of people have complained about that.

Only one mention of the name "Two-Face"

I don't know who else would call him Two-Face, or in what circumstances. Gordon and Batman aren't going to insult him that way, and the Joker can't make fun of him when he's trying to win him over. The only other time I can think to use the term is when the Joker is hanging upside down.

No resolution to The Joker's arc. Batman just leaves him hanging, goes to meet Harvey, Gordon speech, credits. I mean, they could've EASILY put in a quick shot of the Joker yelling/squirming/laughing/crying in a straitjacket in Arkham (or prison, whatever) during the end montage.

I like how the Joker just showed up from nowhere and then disappeared. Makes him seem even more mysterious.

 

[Two-Face]

why would they insult him?