Bill Cosby is a rapist

[terry78]

Jill Scott already admitted wrong. Raven Symone didn't really want to comment because she feels she owes Cosby so much. Whoopi Goldberg, I love her but shes still on some bulls***.

And Faizon Love...well
Seems to be the type of guy that thinks black people do no wrong and every single thing is the fault of the "white man" Randomly bringing up "black lives matter" for no reason

Well, people do like to deflect when they think something trumps something else.

 

[Kar]

Faizon Love hits women so its no surprise he doesn't give a ****.

 

[The Batman]

I wonder how this is gonna affect Ben's Chili Bowl in D.C...

 

[Leenie]

I'm not here to antagonize people who weren't 100% convinced that all of the accusations were true (prior to the released confession). I personally don't know anyone in real life who came out in full-on support of Cosby. I just know a bunch of people who weren't ready to fully jump on the anti-Cosby bandwagon due to the "innocent until proven guilty" notion (which is STILL a legit thing, guys). Prior to this week, I wasn't ready to say that Cosby was 100% guilty, nor was I ready to say that he's still the innocent American Dad we all know and love, and there are lots of people who felt the same way.

Now that we actually have some confirmed facts, we can all omit the speculation whether Cosby has drugged women and raped them. He did it. He said so himself. I do not know why there are people who are STILL defending him at this point.

 

[OctaviusINC]

I do not know why there are people who are STILL defending him at this point.

Because those people can't tell the difference between Heath-cliff Huxtable and Bill Cosby.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Love the updated title name so there is no ambiguity when people search his name here in the future

 

[The Shape]

No one should be defending Cosby at this point.

However, this whole thing does sadden me a bit. Of course, I feel sympathy for the victims and none for Cosby himself, but I do think that it really is a shame that the "Cosby legacy" will be destroyed in this way. His detestable actions aside, the man was a great entertainer who gave us some truly great entertainment throughout the years. Now, because of this scandal, all of the good things Cosby has done are being pulled and erased from the pop culture little by little.

It's weird to think that in 10-20 years, the younger generations and then future generations won't even know who he is because no reruns will be aired, no DVDs will be sold, etc. It's also strange to see a career-ending scandal present itself at the end of this man's life, since we usually see this happen earlier in the lives of celebrities.

 

[Hypestyle]

Coda? He has been doing this for the majority of his life apparently.

And while I am not Apatow's biggest fan, I agree with his general point. People continuing to deny this, even as dozens of women came forward. This isn't a court of law we are talking about here. Society has condemned for much less.

and society has been dead wrong before. A lot of stupid people still believe the Obama Kenya birth canard. Regarding the Cosby situation, saying "let the police investigate" wasn't throwing the women under a bus. The rapid succession of accusers-- complicated by the time lapse in their respective incidents and the lack of public records relating to complaints/investigations-- was just so damned bizarre to barely keep up with, let alone form a definitive opinion. It was a whirlwind. A lot of reasonable people didn't know what to think, conclusively, even though they may have had their suspicions. But even an honest declaration of ambiguity was construed as "sl*t shaming" by some of the hardliner pundits out there like (geez) Nancy Grace. I have a problem with that.

..and It's still a coda- the general public was not aware of his double life until recently.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It's one thing to say "I won't take a stance on the Bill Cosby case until he has his day in court". But weren't people going far beyond that?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

and society has been dead wrong before. A lot of stupid people still believe the Obama Kenya birth canard. Regarding the Cosby situation, saying "let the police investigate" wasn't throwing the women under a bus. The rapid succession of accusers-- complicated by the time lapse in their respective incidents and the lack of public records relating to complaints/investigations-- was just so damned bizarre to barely keep up with, let alone form a definitive opinion. It was a whirlwind. A lot of reasonable people didn't know what to think, conclusively, even though they may have had their suspicions. But even an honest declaration of ambiguity was construed as "sl*t shaming" by some of the hardliner pundits out there like (geez) Nancy Grace. I have a problem with that.

..and It's still a coda- the general public was not aware of his double life until recently.

The police can't investigate. Do reasonable people not know this? We might have a case or two not past the time limit, but he vast majority are.

And there was nothing bizarre about a lack of public records and complaints here. Nothing. We are far beyond being uneducated on rape, what it is, and how society has and continues to handle it. If you are a "reasonable person", this whole situation was clear as day.

40 women have come forward. There is an infinitesimal chance he didn't do this at least once. Especially when you consider some who clearly had no need or reason to come forward outside of the truth. There was nothing reasonable about defending Cosby a long time ago.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Bill Cosby's reaction was a problem with that. How does a normal person react when he is accused of being a rapist? Assuming he is not a rapist, he is going to be horrified and protest.

Bill Cosby said nothing. Then more and more women came out. He still said nothing. Then even more women came out. Then he made jokes about it.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Jill Scott already admitted wrong. Raven Symone didn't really want to comment because she feels she owes Cosby so much. Whoopi Goldberg, I love her but shes still on some bulls***.

And Faizon Love...well
Seems to be the type of guy that thinks black people do no wrong and every single thing is the fault of the "white man" Randomly bringing up "black lives matter" for no reason

Whoopi Goldberg is an awful human being. She will defend anyone who is a celebrity. That is seriously her only requirement. She's defended Mel Gibson, Roman Polanski, Michael Vick, Wesley Snipes, Tiger Woods, etc. She doesn't look at facts or circumstances, all you have to be is a part of the incestuous celebrity club and Whoopi will come to back you up.

 

[Hypestyle]

The police can't investigate. Do reasonable people not know this? We might have a case or two not past the time limit, but he vast majority are.

And there was nothing bizarre about a lack of public records and complaints here. Nothing. We are far beyond being uneducated on rape, what it is, and how society has and continues to handle it. If you are a "reasonable person", this whole situation was clear as day.

40 women have come forward. There is an infinitesimal chance he didn't do this at least once. Especially when you consider some who clearly had no need or reason to come forward outside of the truth.

The heck it's not bizarre that there's a lack of public records. Doesn't mean the women were lying, but it does mean that until now there was a lack of public records to base an opinion on beyond taking the accusation at face value. Remember, Cosby wasn't talking at all (barely). The general public scarcely knew about the Temple University settlement, and of course the deposition was sealed until now.

Theoretically, 50 people can accuse anyone of anything, 10, 20, 30, 40 years after the fact. Morally, it doesn't mean they're lying, but for anyone who automatically wants people to jump on their side, the time lapse complicates things for any police department, state prosecutor or even civil prosecutor. Even at this point, several police departments cited a statute of limitations.

Again, lack of "physical evidence" doesn't mean a violation didn't take place, but if you're super-outraged that Cosby's home wasn't surrounded by a SWAT team from the first Gloria Allred press conference, you have a drastic lack of knowledge about how the criminal justice system (is supposed to) work.. If you want frontier justice based on accusations alone, you're going to have to go back 150 years..

 

[The Shape]

Do you guys believe every single woman who has come forward with allegations against Cosby? Do you believe he raped or drugged all of them? Janice Dickinson, for instance?

 

[Thundercrack85]

Do you guys believe every single woman who has come forward with allegations against Cosby? Do you believe he raped or drugged all of them? Janice Dickinson, for instance?

No. I don't know who Janice Dickinson is. But I am sure with so many, someone may simply be trying to get attention. However it is hard to fathom, three or four dozen unrelated women all accusing a popular figure of rape for no reason than minor publicity. Many years apart. Most of these women gain absolutely nothing from these accusations.

 

[Hypestyle]

Janice Dickinson may well be telling the truth. But depending on your worldview and your preconceptions on her as a celebrity, her lapses into... sigh... histrionics, for some, was somewhat off-putting. But in any case, what is revealed stands revealed. I don't think that there's going to be any kind of resolution to this outside the civil suit, unless a much more "recent" woman steps forward.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Again, no clue who she is. But forty women falsely claiming rape? Over many years? Putting their reputations at stake? And for what?

 

[chamber-music]

Do you guys believe every single woman who has come forward with allegations against Cosby? Do you believe he raped or drugged all of them? Janice Dickinson, for instance?

Even if he only drugged and raped one woman it would be one too many.

 

[Teelie]

Janice Dickinson may well be telling the truth. But depending on your worldview and your preconceptions on her as a celebrity, her lapses into... sigh... histrionics, for some, was somewhat off-putting. But in any case, what is revealed stands revealed. I don't think that there's going to be any kind of resolution to this outside the civil suit, unless a much more "recent" woman steps forward.

There is a claim dating from 2008 that may still be under statutes of limitation so depending on that he might go to trial on that one. Big "might" there though seeing as even a more recent rape accusation would be hard to get into court.

 

[Erzengel]

Was there a rape kit done? Any blood work?

I know we live in a country where people can be convicted based on circumstantial evidence but is her word and his prior admissions enough?

 

[Teelie]

Even if there was the backlog on some of that stuff is literally years behind. The system is broke in so many ways that it can take a lot to convict a rapist of their crime.

 

[Lily Adler]

Again, no clue who she is. But forty women falsely claiming rape? Over many years? Putting their reputations at stake? And for what?

Fame hungry former supermodel. Hence why people are not quick to believe her.

 

[chamber-music]

Police handling of rape investigations is notoriously terrible in most cases.

 

[Kar]

Do you guys believe every single woman who has come forward with allegations against Cosby? Do you believe he raped or drugged all of them? Janice Dickinson, for instance?

I wanna say "no" but you just can't be too sure now, honestly. But none of that really matters though. You rape one woman you raped enough.

 

[chamber-music]

Whoopi Goldberg has reversed her Bill Cosby opinion after someone schooled her on the statutes-of-limitation law.