Bill Cosby is a rapist

[Golgo-13]

I feel like you're just trolling now.

But I will still say that you lack any understanding on what rape does to a person.

For some reason, every time someone says stuff like this, it makes me think that the person believes rape is a sort of mildly unpleasant sex that wasn't consented to, and that it's not That Big A Deal. (Except in how the victim behaved before hand, what they were wearing, where they went with their rapist, what they did after the rape, and why they didn't behave like a person who'd merely had a bad day)

Yes i'm trolling…so you say, by articulating my opposing opinion….?

That's what's wrong with the world today. Just because someone has an opinion that doesn't mesh with yours, that person is then deemed as the enemy. That's not the way the real world should work….we already agreed that rape is bad. Whether you think i understand rape or not is irrevelant to me, so just leave it at that.

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

To me, whatever responsibilities you think these women "should" have taken is all quite secondary when their accused rapist is refusing to accept any responsibility of his own.

 

[Tempest]

Yes i'm trolling…so you say, by articulating my opposing opinion….?

That's what's wrong with the world today. Just because someone has an opinion that doesn't mesh with yours, that person is then deemed as the enemy. That's not the way the real world should work….we already agreed that rape is bad. Whether you think i understand rape or not is irrevelant to me, so just leave it at that.

I cannot believe you are serious when you say that the victims of a crime need to be more responsible. I've heard a lot of things that are offensive, but I have to say, this is a new one to me. Wow.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I think Golgo just doesn't want to accept that the beloved entertainer behind Ghost Dad, Fat Albert and those Jello pudding pop commercials is also a sick monster. I see this state of denial popping up a lot when it comes to Cosby. Let's pretend that instead of a celebrity icon from our childhood, he was a nobody that 30 women had accused of rape. Would we still be advocating his "presumption of innocence"?

 

[Victarion]

The head-in-sand thing is popular.

 

[Feenix]

I'm not google searcing for you. Their are numerous interviews where they claim to never have been tested. If you really wanted to know, you would take the time and look it up for yourself.

You're the one who made the ridiculous claim. I just asked you to back it up.

For the record, I have read numerous interviews where the woman did not mention any testing. Are you assuming that because they didn't disclose whether or not they got tested that they didn't?

Because that would be stupid.

 

[Greens]

I don't think all of the name-calling toward Golgo is completely warranted. He/she obviously has a slightly different perspective on the case that is not completely unreasonable. I don't see how that makes him an awful person. It's not like he thinks rape is something you can just wave away. He's just positing a way for victims to stand up and minimize the damage.

Maybe his "innocent until proven guilty" stance is a bit outdated after 30 accusations, but I do think it's an important nuance that plenty of people forget when it comes to rape accusations in general.

 

[Feenix]

I don't think all of the name-calling toward Golgo is completely warranted. He/she obviously has a slightly different perspective on the case that is not completely unreasonable. I don't see how that makes him an awful person. It's not like he thinks rape is something you can just wave away. He's just positing a way for victims to stand up and minimize the damage.

Maybe his "innocent until proven guilty" stance is a bit outdated after 30 accusations, but I do think it's an important nuance that plenty of people forget when it comes to rape accusations in general.

Golgo specifically said that because the victims didn't get tested for STDs (as he claims. I don't think he has any evidence to back that up), their stories are suspect.

I believe that some are telling the truth, but the fact that NONE of them got a rape kit nor were tested for STD's especially during the 80's, when AIDS was feared on an apocalyptic level is very suspect......

This whole argument is resting on Golgo's assumption that none of the women got tested for STDs. Since he has no evidence to back that up, I believe whatever point he's trying to make about rape victims getting tested is moot. That is not the issue here.

Bill Cosby is a serial rapist.

 

[Greens]

Okay, that's fine. I just find it troublesome that when the subject is rape, people are very quick to call one another awful or insensitive or stupid. It's one of the most touchy subjects of the 21st century.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Like most I like Bill Cosby. At first I didn't think this story had any truth to it, just women out for money and their 15 mins of fame. But when like 30 plus women came forward and Bill refusing to say anything, that's when I knew the story had to have some truth to it. An innocent person would stand by and leave people continue to assume you of something you didn't do, without saying a word about it. I am not saying it's 100% guilty but there is something about this issue that is true. Sadly, I think he may have done these things, but final judgement should be made in court.

 

[Tempest]

Golgo specifically said that because the victims didn't get tested for STDs (as he claims. I don't think he has any evidence to back that up), their stories are suspect.

That wasn't the only offensive part of what Golgo said. The suggestion that a victim who might be too traumatized to be tested is somehow being irresponsible is insane.

And before anyone says, "Well, that is true," let me ask how many people who have multiple sexual partners get tested on a regular basis.

 

[bullets]

It seems like every few days a new accuser comes forward .Bill Cosby isn't just a rapist , he's one of the most notorious sexual abusers in history. Didn't see that one coming.

 

[Sawyer]

I'm starting to wonder if he's EVER had consensual sex with a woman.

 

[bullets]

If so , we know he didn't really enjoy it.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I don't find this too shocking. Powerful people get away with **** all the time.

And it's usually the moralizing ones.

 

[Lilbaz]

How's this for moralizing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-31698154

 

[bullets]

Well that's just disturbing Lilbaz.

 

[Rocketman]

At this point, it's pretty clear that he's factually guilty of a lot of the accusations. If there are 50 women who came forward and 35 of them are lying, it still results in Cosby being an absolute monster and he's sickening.

Think about that... If 50 women came forward and 35 are lying, that means he raped 15 women. What are the odds that ALL of the women are lying?

He's like the Jack the Ripper or Jeffrey Dahmer of rape. He should get the chair.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

First off I think he is a serial rapist who used his fame to abuse woman. With that being said I doubt all of the accusers are being truthful. Most I would reckon are being legit but when something like this happens with a big celeb there are always a few that come out of the woodwork when they smell money. But he is a rapist and I have lost all respect for him

 

[Feenix]

How's this for moralizing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-31698154

I would have no problem setting fire to those men. They don't deserve to live among human beings.

As for Cosby, I hope someone takes revenge on him in some way. Break his knees with a bat. I don't care. Throw him to the wolves.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I would have no problem setting fire to those men. They don't deserve to live among human beings.

As for Cosby, I hope someone takes revenge on him in some way. Break his knees with a bat. I don't care. Throw him to the wolves.

Personally, I think someone initiating non-consensual sex with him in prison would be the most poetic kind of justice.

 

[Greens]

At this point, it's pretty clear that he's factually guilty of a lot of the accusations. If there are 50 women who came forward and 35 of them are lying, it still results in Cosby being an absolute monster and he's sickening.

Think about that... If 50 women came forward and 35 are lying, that means he raped 15 women. What are the odds that ALL of the women are lying?

He's like the Jack the Ripper or Jeffrey Dahmer of rape. He should get the chair.

Calling him the Dahmer of rape is a huge stretch. From the stories I've read, he drugged the girls and then raped them, no violent beatings or anything. I could be wrong because I haven't read every account.

It's interesting how we all suddenly subscribe to the "eye for an eye" way of thinking in a case like this. Kill him! Rape him! Break his legs!

 

[chamber-music]

How's this for moralizing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-31698154

It is a good thing India brought back the death penalty because people act like this really shouldn't be walking the earth.

 

[Tempest]

Calling him the Dahmer of rape is a huge stretch. From the stories I've read, he drugged the girls and then raped them, no violent beatings or anything. I could be wrong because I haven't read every account.

It's interesting how we all suddenly subscribe to the "eye for an eye" way of thinking in a case like this. Kill him! Rape him! Break his legs!

In some ways, rape is worse than murder. The extreme violation and intent that goes behind such an action is repulsive. And the fact that the victims' suffering is an on-going thing makes it worse.

 

[moviedoors]

It's interesting how we all suddenly subscribe to the "eye for an eye" way of thinking in a case like this. Kill him! Rape him! Break his legs!

There's also the ugly implication underneath it all: rape/murder/assault is okay as long as the right person is being raped/murdered/assualted.