Black Panther

[KingOfDreams]

Newsweek put the new Black Panther series in it's checklist for what to buy this week. I've never seen anything about comic books, other than what relates to movies, written about in Newsweek before, so they must be serious about how good it is.

 

[Invincible]

I'm Getting it

 

[Marcdachamp]

Picking it up tomorrow.

 

[Anubis]

Me too.

 

[PaleRider]

I'll definatly pick it up.

 

[Lackey]

reviews for it are already up at the fourth rail

7/10 from Don

and

5/10 from Randy

 

[Varient]

Newsweek put the new Black Panther series in it's checklist for what to buy this week. I've never seen anything about comic books, other than what relates to movies, written about in Newsweek before, so they must be serious about how good it is.

Nice to hear,.. I'll get it today.

 

[Assassin]

I got it, didnt read it yet.

I Hope Hudin does every thing he says hes gonna do with this and MK Spiderman, including Clark Kent working at the same paper as peter (god damnit i cant remember the name)

 

[KingOfDreams]

Wait a minute, Clark Kent is being featured in a Marvel comic? That's stupid.

 

[Assassin]

no, it would be for a special assignment, he was transferd over to that daily bugle or what ever its called and then peter and clask find out about each other, a crossover if u would

 

[KingOfDreams]

I see. This thing actually happened already now that I think about in the Marvel vs. DC limited series that resulted in the Amalgam universe.

 

[Red Mask]

Randy's criticism of Cap's fight is undeserving. He said

Things like revealing that the Golden Age Panther beat the crap out of Captain America, which mostly serves not to make Black Panther look like a badass but to make Cap look like nothing more than a tool of the American government who got slapped down for poking his nose where he didn't belong, an interpretation this Cap fan ain't crazy about.

There's an unwritten law in literature that guest stars don't outshine or beat the story's title character. Black Panther is the main character so he should beat Cap in a fight. And let's not forget that this Cap was still green in those days. He hadn't gained enough experience to be the great hero he is today. In a turn about way, Cap saved Wakanda in his own comic years ago. He repaired his shield and then prevented Klaw from destroying the Vibranium mines. I also recall an Uncanny X-Men issue starring both Captain America and the Black Widow. "Madripoor Knights" I believe it was titled? Wolverine saved Captain America twice in that issue. First when Cap was slashed in the back by the Hand. Then later Logan rescued him and their friends from Von Strucker and the Hand.

 

[roach]

it was my take on it also...who knows how many months of experience Cap had while the Golden Age BP was already an accomplished fighter......

 

[MicroLives]

I thought the issue was pretty good. Nothing groundbreaking, but I'll definetely be picking it up next month. I think the whole history behind would-be conquerors of Wakanda was very interesting.

 

[Marcdachamp]

I thought the issue was pretty good. Nothing groundbreaking, but I'll definetely be picking it up next month. I think the whole history behind would-be conquerors of Wakanda was very interesting.

My sentiments exactly. Not bad, but nothing fantastic. I'll stick with it and see where it goes.

I agree with Red Mask. Cap wasn't half the man he was back then. Madripoor Knights is an excellent example (an excellent story as well). I actually thought that the Cap scene was very cool.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

I really liked this issue alot.

Spoiler

The brief history of Wakanda defending itself from invaders was a nice touch. I thought it was kinda funny how each time they were invaded, they'd bust out with weaponry more advanced than their attackers.
The brief fight with Cap was pretty cool and I liked how that General got all upity when he was told that Cap lost.
The ending was decent too; glad to see the Klaw back in the game. I wonder who he was talking to though?

 

[Varient]

I read it.

I can't complain.

EVERYTHING MADE SENSE.


Wakandans came across like "We want to be left alone,... but if you insist we'll Kick your A-ss."


Nothing arrogant or "superior" about it,.. no attitudes of "Master Race" Bent, Just a group who would rather do their own thing.

I require plots and good writing,.. the story is understated and very good leaving no real questions other than how someone who made that much rank could be that stupid in the US Military.


The stuff involving Captain America made sense, based on the timeframe,

the stuff involving Guns echoed the first 50-11 encounters the Europeans had with the Zulu's before Shaka Zulu was assasinated.

the way they cleaned Ross up was a surprise though,.. I've never seen him so ,... Competent.

All in All,.... A Good start.

 

[Red Mask]

Well Varient, I could understand why the people in that room were acting so angry. Not every general in a high seat knows all the World's countries. A small, unknown country tells a super power to get out of their face. The reaction is predictable. Wakanda has a civilization that challenges the ways of the Western industry and politics. But I wish they could have had featured T'Challa himself in here to show what he's done for Wakanda.

The way Hudlin had Ross describe Wakanda's use of resources was interesting. I wonder how they approached it that way so early in history? Did they understand waste build-up already? And why didn't anybody in that room mention the Vibranium? In another thread I speculated on possible invaders in Africa. I realized Wakandans might have advanced themselves because Apocalypse ruled Egypt once. (That's a retcon solution. But it's a good reason to develop stronger defenses.)

As for who those staff members might be a parody of, well:
A parody is just a parody. Somebody has to be the villain. And they're the ones who are striking first. Rice/ Reese doesn't represent the whole Black community just because she's in government. Nor does it make her a traitor to black people. So they're plotting to use a special black ops group to overthrow the king. That's nothing new. America HAS DONE IT before. Also, DC Comics had the Suicide Squad.

 

[Varient]

Well Varient, I could understand why the people in that room were acting so angry. Not every general in a high seat knows all the World's countries. A small, unknown country tells a super power to get out of their face. The reaction is predictable. Wakanda has a civilization that challenges the ways of the Western industry and politics. But I wish they could have had featured T'Challa himself in here to show what he's done for Wakanda.

The way Hudlin had Ross describe Wakanda's use of resources was interesting. I wonder how they approached it that way so early in history? Did they understand waste build-up already? And why didn't anybody in that room mention the Vibranium? In another thread I speculated on possible invaders in Africa. I realized Wakandans might have advanced themselves because Apocalypse ruled Egypt once. (That's a retcon solution. But it's a good reason to develop stronger defenses.)

As for who those staff members might be a parody of, well:
A parody is just a parody. Somebody has to be the villain. And they're the ones who are striking first. Rice/ Reese doesn't represent the whole Black community just because she's in government. Nor does it make her a traitor to black people. So they're plotting to use a special black ops group to overthrow the king. That's nothing new. America HAS DONE IT before. Also, DC Comics had the Suicide Squad.

There "general" reactions of the US heads with Wakanda were not what I meant.
What I meant was the concept of someone "bright enough" to make it there thru the military,..yet be so unaware of his surroundings to say what he did in the language he had, with someone who actually had power over him, ("shut up General?"), where she could hear and take offense.

 

[roach]

I just had a problem with his reactions...most Generals arent trying to blow up the world. Most flag officers are well briefed on the subject of meetings before they before cabinet members.....

 

[-WildCard-]

it was all right but i had a few problems

(spoilers)

-when is this all taking place, i know most of the story is being told by klaw to some prisoner. But when is the whole white house thing taking place. Ross doesnt seem the same smart alike we know and love, now hes an uptight stickler which makes me think its after priests run where BP disapears so ross goes home. But the way he talks about Wakanda doesnt seem like hes been there or has any relationship with it, which makes me think its before he even knew BP.

-Second , the second to last page some goverment guy asks who they can send to take care of Wakanda and the next page has klaw asking that prisoner if he wants to join his team. Is the Goverment hiring Klaw a known supervillian to take care of wakanda.

-Third didnt klaw die or maybe just deflate in priests run? But he does say some thing about how he killed one BP, T'chaka (T' challa's father), and he almost killed another one but he hurt him. If he is talking about when t'challa hurt Him when t'challa was a child, right after klaw killed his dad then he is totally ignoring the fight in priests run. But he says he almost killed another BP and t'challa wasnt BP when he was a kid so he couldnt have been talking about that.

In conclusion the REALLY need to put the date on everything not just events that happened in previous centuries because its about to make me head explode!

BOOM

and there it goes.

 

[SpideyInATree]

I picked this up out of curiousity of Hudlin, because he's going to be writing Marvel Knights Spider-Man, and John Romita Jr. was on it. JR JR is my all time favorite artist.

I know NOTHING about Black Panther, haha. I'm glad I picked up this book though because I enjoyed it a lot. One thing that people are going to have to remember with the Black Panther/Cap fight. There are still A LOT of racist people out there and they even read comic books. People probably aren't going to like the fact that Black Panther beat Captain America because well...Panther is black and Captain America is "the ultimate white man", haha. Trust me...people may give you other reasons like "Panther isn't even on Cap's level" but I did read somewhere, I forget where, that Panther is on the same power level as Captain America.

But that aside. I LOVED that Panther beat Cap in 1944 because, honestly, it'd only made sense. He didn't kill Cap...he only beat him and then safe took him away. But I'll definitely be buying issue # 2 and after seeing Hudlin can hold his own with a comic...so far...haha...I have good feelings about him jumping onto Marvel Knights. I'm really glad I bought this book. Plus...did you see Romita Jr.'s ART!!!! BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!

 

[roach]

yeah i realize that...look how many death threats Marvel recieved when they did the Truth story

 

[-WildCard-]

JR JR is WAY OVERRATED

 

[Elijya]

I've never been interested in BP before. This got me interested.