Blade Runner: The [Un]Official Final Thread

[Jack O Lantern]

Blade Runner is probably the greatest Science Fiction movie ever made, so let's get some dicussion going.

Some topics:

• Was Deckard a Replicant?
• Which cut is the best?
• Voiceover: Yay or Nay?
• The visuals and atmosphere of the movie?
• Why did Batty save Deckard?
• What is human?
• Is "Future Noir" a genre with mostly untapped potential?

And of course there are much more topics for conservation.

 

[[A]]

Awesome. This thread, the movie, everything

Boo the haters. Boo.

 

[BatMatt]

Blade Runner is probably the greatest Science Fiction movie ever made, so let's get some dicussion going.

Some topics:

• Was Deckard a Replicant?
• Which cut is the best?
• Voiceover: Yay or Nay?
• The visuals and atmosphere of the movie?
• Why did Batty save Deckard?
• What is human?
• Is "Future Noir" a genre with mostly untapped potential?

And of course there are much more topics for conservation.

Yes
Ultimate
Nay
Fantastic, bloody damn fantastic.
One of my favorites scenes/monologues of all time, there are a few reasons. Will add more later
..and that is the point of Blade Runner
Absolutely

Just a start, but I'd love to go in more depth with people on this

 

[[A]]

Was Deckard a Replicant?

Definitely!

Voiceover: Yay or Nay?

Never saw the original cut, with the voice over -- so I can't say..

The visuals and atmosphere of the movie?

Fantastique.

 

[Doctor Jones]

The voiceover is horrible. Ford sounds like he's half asleep while reading his lines.

I'll watch this film again someday. But as of now, I didn't see what the big deal was. The intentions and themes of the film are interesting, but didn't get me that involved.

 

[[A]]

I don't know, Doc -- half the time you seem to have an awesometastic movie taste. The other half.. oh man :duh:

Spoiler

 

[Doctor Jones]

I see what you mean. But I don't hate the film. I just don't find it special in ways alot of people do around here. Like I said, I'll watch it again someday. Maybe it was too early for me when I saw it. There were things I did like. The production design of course. It's some of the best I've seen. The tears in the rain speech. Though strangely, as much as I love Ford, he wasn't doing much for me. The actors in general seemed bland to me. Or maybe since most of them were replicants they were suppose to be like that.

 

[C. Lee]

I love Blade Runner. I was lucky enough to see it a half dozen times at the theater when it first came out.

I've always personally been against the idea that Deckard is a replicant. But I will listen to people's reasons why they think he is.

I like the final cut the best because it corrects the numbering of the renegade replicants mistake that always bugged me.

As a fan of film noir and having seen the original first and so many times....I like the voiceover. But I will admit the non voiceover version is great too.

The visuals were fantastic. They have influenced many film makers since.

Batty saved Deckard for having the guts to spit in the face of his death.

 

[BatMatt]

Batty also saved Deckard to pass along his memories, so his "life' wasn't meaningless. Plus the whole monologue revolved around "what is human" and how can we determine what is life.

So good, gonna watch the scene on Youtube right now

 

[Solidus]

Blade Runner is probably the greatest Science Fiction movie ever made, so let's get some dicussion going.

Some topics:

• Was Deckard a Replicant?
• Which cut is the best?
• Voiceover: Yay or Nay?
• The visuals and atmosphere of the movie?
• Why did Batty save Deckard?
• What is human?
• Is "Future Noir" a genre with mostly untapped potential?

And of course there are much more topics for conservation.

Truly one of the best movies ever. My favorite sci-fi hands down. To me it is peerless and just, endless with provoking thought.

To answer these questions.

-I will always say there is a great possibility for both. I have heard both sides of the argument, and they are both solid, but I do believe Deckard was a replicant.

-I love the Final Cut best, it really was the directors cut touched up to perfection. But that does make it the best. It truly is just awe inspiring.

-Voice over? I know C. Lee talked about how he saw it in theaters I sadly did not get to do so, but the theatrical cut was the original cut I saw, never cared for it a whole lot. It was kinda delving deeper into the 40's noir, but I thought the silence of the DC and FC were just so much more potent and powerful.

-I still think the visuals and art of it are unmatched, even today the city and the Spinners are just amazing, the city felt real, looked real, you could almost taste it. To me that was the pinnacle of Scott and his attention to every little detail, he truly did create a whole new world.

-Why did Roy save Deckard? That is a deep question that I could go on multiple paths for, for hours and hours on end. I believe Roy was always searching for what we all are, that drive that I believe is the power that may connect the universe is the power of purpose and question. Will we go un-noticed? It is a question that has been asked for years. . There is so many more views of that scene that I have as well, the great thing about Blade Runner, is there is not just one meaning to something, there is so many.

-Yet again another great question that will take me many posts and pages to express my many different views on. One view is that maybe the term human is more of a feeling then a genetic code, the feeling of love purpose hope, something that goes beyond what material we are made of.

-The Future Noir genre is some what un-noticed, yet, could many do it better? I invite people to create more films in the vein of Blade Runner though, I love that, and it would be great to see some other stories in such a way.

 

[Paroxysm]

Cyberpunk at it's best.

 

[[A]]

Now I really wanna see the movie again

 

[deathshead2]

This movie had the best lighting and set design known to man.

 

[Jack O Lantern]

Was Deckard a Replicant?

Yes, I think that when Scott choose to add the Unicorn dream it ended all doubt for me. Moreover, Deckard should be a replicant. The movie asks the question about what is life and what is human. When Batty saves Deckard he has become human or "more human than human," we finally start to empathize wiith him and we accet him as one of us. But the idea that the guy we empathize with automatically just because he is the hero and he is played by Harrison Ford is also this machine is a lot more powerful because it means we would accept them as human if we weren't first told not to.

Which cut is the best?

I have only seen the Final Cut. I do have the Directors Cut which I will get to eventually. Maybe tonight.

Voiceover: Yay or Nay?

As I said I haven't seen the theratical cut but I do generally dislike voice overs in general.

Is "Future Noir" a genre with mostly untapped potential?

It is. There are only a few more films I can think off that have that style. The best of which is probably Dark City.

 

[Armored Avenger]

Blade Runner. I love this movie. It's brilliant, easily one of the greatest science fiction movies of all time. This and Alien make Ridley Scott a king of the genre.
The visuals remain some of the greatest I have ever seen in a film, and Vangelis' score is fantastic.
It is a travesty that Rutger Hauer did not get a best Supporting Acot nomination at the Oscars. His performance as Batty is incredible.

• Was Deckard a Replicant?

Yes (in my opinion)

• Which cut is the best?

The Final Cut

• Voiceover: Yay or Nay?

Nay

• The visuals and atmosphere of the movie?

Pure brilliance. Some of the greatest I have ever seen

• Why did Batty save Deckard?

Many reasons can be suggested and talked about. It's one of the films best scenes for this reason (and other reasons as well, mostly Rutger Hauer's brilliant performance).

• Is "Future Noir" a genre with mostly untapped potential?

In other types of "Future Noir" yes, but Blade Runner really showed all of the potential of grungy, dirty, over-populated science fiction - I don't see how another film using the same style and elements can give us more than what Blade Runner did.

 

[CFE]

By doing countdowns of films, I tend to divert from discussions concerning films of the genre at hand...I will say however that "Blade Runner" is an absolute favorite personally...of films in general.

Thanks to the Voight-Kampff case edition, I've seen all five iterations; I would rank them as such...with 1 as my preferred cut of choice:

1: Final Cut
2: Director's Cut
3: International Cut
4: U.S. Theatrical Cut
5: Workprint

 

[SonikDeath]

Sean young looks stunning in every frame of this movie.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I would only put 2001 ahead of this masterpiece.

 

[redhawk23]

the book and the movie compliment eachother.