Bought/Thought 12/17

Thunderbolts- PICK OF THE WEEK! Diggle and De La Torre were the PERFECT team to take over for Ellis and Deodato. The tension they build in this issue is fantastic. I really didn't know how this issue was going to end. I love a good surprise. I am very excited about this book and Dark Avengers. 9/10

Mighty Avengers- Really good issue. I think we're finally going to see some really good stuff done with Pym now that
Janet's gone.
Cheung's pages were great, but Weeks did a nice job too. It's sad when you think about what Hank and a lot of the other replacements have been through. Nice recap while letting the artist's do the job. Bendis is often accused of being too wordy, but here, he lets Cheung do the storytelling. He certainly knows his artist's strengths. Clint and Norman are great here, too. 9/10

Invincible Iron Man- Larocca's art felt a little off this issue. That having been said, I like where this is going. The build-up between Tony and Norman is strong. I think things are going to get very crazy, soon. 8/10

Transformers ROTF Prequel- This was one of my favorite movie tie-ins so far. The art is good, and I liked where the plot picked up. Reign of Starscream ended on a boring note, but I like where this is headed. The art's nice, and it was funny seeing Dispensor one last time. 8/10

Amazing Spider-Man- Harry's return is laid out for us. It's a pretty easy explanation, but not a bad one. I liked the references back to JMS' run, including Aunt May's comments about Molten Men. Little details like that, and Normie's collection of severed Spidey head's (a reference to Harry's death) are really nice. I have no idea how Peter can become Spidey and fight off Molten Man, though. 8/10

X-Factor- The art hurt this issue. Two very different artists handling art chores is a bit jarring. PAD pulls it off with a good story, though. Rictor acting like an idiot and what it caused was pretty good. Jamie's intentional deception of his teammates again and letting the villain go are going to come back to bite him. 7/10

Avengers: The Initiative- A depressing end, I must say. A good end, but depressing, too. The story is a little light, and the art could use a bit of work, though. Also, they may have blown part of Marvel Zombies 3's ending. 7/10

Dark Reign: New Nation- Mixed bag. I bought it for the Hawkeye and Mockingbird stuff, and I'm glad I did, it was a great set-up. The Secret Warriors part was good, too. I'll at least try the first issue. War Machine was just ok, I'll pass on that. Skrull Kill Krew was entertaining. Not bad, but not worth the extra buck, especially since some of these pages were in Dark Reign last week. 5/10
 
Black Tom did come back in Excalibur, without his newer wood-like powers, he was back to his normal self, I forget exactly why, maybe M-Day. Juggernaut actually convinced Tom to turn himself in, instead of doing whatever he was doing. It was shortly beforeCain started to really question whether he should give into Cyttorak or not. I forget what issue of Excalibur it was, but the Wrecking Crew whoop Jugge ass. They taunt him, and tell him how much of a ***** he's become and how he should actually beanle to handle the Wrecking Crew on his own. I think this was the moment where Cain started to say **** it again. Then having Hulk basically just laugh at what Cain had become, that was the final straw for Cain.
 
Thunderbolts- PICK OF THE WEEK! Diggle and De La Torre were the PERFECT team to take over for Ellis and Deodato. The tension they build in this issue is fantastic. I really didn't know how this issue was going to end. I love a good surprise. I am very excited about this book and Dark Avengers. 9/10

I have to really make a point of remembering to check this out. Diggle's a fantastic writer and I've been wondering what he's been up to for a while now.

You scared me with Batgirl #6 there. :)

I kind of feel like an ******* for even telling you about it but then I remembered oh yeah I kind of am an ******* (what can I say, repeated exposure to TMOB's posts finally had their effect) so I'm gonna go ahead and say it includes

1. Batgirl outright killing David Cain by shoving him off a roof and then letting him fall to his death, which is supposed to be okay because she feels bad about it after she murders her dad and it turns out Batman was hiding in the background to prevent her from successfully murdering him.

2. David Cain and his relationship with his daughter completely miswritten.

3. A gratuitous retcon of Batgirl's origin that largely serves to make it undeniably clear that Beechen has done no ****ing homework whatsoever.

4. A random appearance from that new fakeass Batgirl from BoP to remind you that DC has a shiney new quasi-Silver Agey character to give a **** about (until they just say **** it and have Babs' legs get fixed) so now that this mini's over you can just **** off and forget Cass ever happened.
 
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That sounds about right given Beechen's track record so far. But, just out of curiosity and a masochistic need to further feed my hate, what was the retcon to Batgirl's origin in #3?
 
He has Cassandra witness one of David's murders as a child; her whole origin hinges on her not seeing death until the point where she runs away, which was directly caused by her having no concept of death or what David Cain did in real life. It'd be kind of like one of the Runaways (apart from Alex, I guess) knowing their parents were supervillains years earlier and not having done anything about it.

Part II: The Letter 'T'

Terra #4

Well, that was pretty pleasant, though I can't really see what the point of this series was; a good story is reason enough, I suppose, but I can't imagine they think this will sell well. As much as anything, it appears to be a trailer for the upcoming Power Girl series, which will have the same creative team, and whose title character features prominently here as a supporting character; the whole final 45% is just Terra and Power Girl fighting a couple of random villains in between flights of girly activities. Terra III is a rather generic character (naive, sweet, dedicated fish out of water), but she's appealingly written (and drawn, of course); I get the sense that she'll be part of the supporting cast in Power Girl. Good fun.

Thunderbolts#127

In which Diggle dutifully sees Ellis' plots basically to their conclusion; Ellis' Thunderbolts status quo was always going to explode at some point. Diggle kind of shoes Penance and Radioactive Man off the stage faster than I suspect Ellis would have, given time to do this story himself (not that Penance deserves much more than he gets here; Chen's is nicely subdued), telescoping things to focus on the primary nice girl on the team, Songbird, versus all the psychos. Songbird dodges the "Elektra special" Bullseye aims to serve, and escapes with her life, another good exit for a character who no longer fits the tone of the book; it would have been easy to ice her for dramatic effect. Swordsman's ending statement is amusingly undercut by the events of the previous week's Secret Invasion: Dark Reign special. Diggle's shows a great handle on everybody, so it's a shame he has to give them up apart from Norman; the art is likewise well-suited to this type of series.
 
I have to really make a point of remembering to check this out. Diggle's a fantastic writer and I've been wondering what he's been up to for a while now.

If you liked Ellis and Deodato's run on T-Bolts, I highly recommend this. It's dark and creepy stuff. I'm very excited for the next few months.
 
He has Cassandra witness one of David's murders as a child; her whole origin hinges on her not seeing death until the point where she runs away, which was directly caused by her having no concept of death or what David Cain did in real life. It'd be kind of like one of the Runaways (apart from Alex, I guess) knowing their parents were supervillains years earlier and not having done anything about it.
How wonderfully stupid of him. :o
 
Gave the first 2 trades of Invincible a try.

Thought it was okay,fairly standard superhero stuff with some cool twists here and there (his daddy).After all the high praise I thought this was going to be better.I don't think I'm going to follow through the rest of the series,it just wasn't my thing.

Also bought:

Powers Vol.8:Legends
Powers Vol.9:Psychotic
Powers Vol.10:Cosmic
Powers Vol.11:Secret Identity

Just finished reading the entirety of Vol.1 from Image.Not only is this Bendis' magnum opus,it's probably the best take on superheroes I've ever read.The series just offers so much more than your typical cape book.It combines so many elements from crime,noir,fantasy,etc with superheroes and it makes for one hell of a final result.There's no other book out there to match it's content and quality.

I think I'm off most of my monthlies for a while,I've finally broken free of the weekly stranglehold.The only titles I'm sticking to are Cap,DD,Green Lantern and possibly Iron Fist,Herc or Thunderbolts.
 
how is powers anyway?
and for that matter hows fables
 
Fables is wonderful if you like fairy tales. In fact, I'm gonna come right out and say that it's the best comic book you can buy if you like fairy tales.
 
Fables is great, particularly the early volumes (2-6, especially); it's really meant to be read in trade, like a lot of Vertigo titles.
 
I forgot to mention the little GLA sequence in AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE #19 was cute.

Onward!

Dread's Bought/Thought for 12/17/08: Event Mini's and a Surprise!

X-MEN: KINGBREAKER #1:
This is the first major prelude mini to WAR OF KINGS, which is coming next year from Abnett & Lanning. I haven't read any of the INHUMANS stuff or the past Brubaker UXM run with Vulcan and the Starjammers, or even the EMPEROR VULCAN stuff. The gist of what I know is from various Handbooks and whatnot. The gist is that after Vulcan was retconned into being in the horrid DEADLY GENESIS and killed Banshee for no reason, he went after the Shi'ar to get revenge on them for killing his mother and enslaving him. But somewhere along the lines he decided to conquer them and rule them, and marry Deathbird...just 'cause. He always was an erractic, plot convenient power moder more than a character. Several of the X-Men: B-Listers like Havok, Polaris, and Marvel Girl - went into space to team up with the Starjammers and got involved in the ordeal. Somewhere along the line, Corsair (Havok's father) was killed and half of the Starjammers were taken prisoner by Vulcan, who is now Emperor of the Shi'ar by marriage to Deathbird.

Honestly, I never liked DEADLY GENESIS, Vulcan, or the Shi'ar for that matter. The Shi'ar as an alien race seem far past their prime and I usually find them a tedious distraction for the X-Men's central theme. Vulcan is a flat villain character who seems to exist for raw power and anger and little else. Some might see a truly empty soul who lived only for revenge and now has become just as bad if not worse than those he sought vengeance against, but I just see yet another near-omnipotent mutant villain with little to seperate himself from others like him aside for the Shi'ar angle. The Shi'ar just seem more like Klingon cyphers than ever most times. At the very least, though, space is a landscape where X-Men like Havok could shine.

X-MEN KINGBREAKER doesn't exactly recap all that, but it serves up the status quo fairly plainly that someoen who has a modest recollection of the Marvel universe and the X-Men after DEADLY GENESIS will know what is going on. I wasn't lost at all. Basically, Vulcan and his Imperial Guard are spreading onto other alien races to conquer, this time the Breakworld...oops, I mean the Z'Nox. Amazing how I'd get those two confused. Both are stock warlike reptile aliens with advanced technology and no sense of mercy or the simple comradrie needed for inventing advanced technology. Still, it was a nice nod to the past. I can't remember the last time the Z'Nox showed up. Havok, Polaris, Ch'od and Raza have been captured, and Vulcan keeps wanting to find ways to break them down, especially his brother Havok. He's also earned a nasty scar. The rest of the Starjammers (Lilandra, Marvel Girl, and Korvac, who stole his weapon from Cloud Strife) are busy reclaiming their ship from the Shi'ar grunts and planning to rescue their allies. Standard set up stuff for a first issue. I honestly have no clue how the hell Korvac sheathes a sword that is bigger than he is without elastic limbs; one friend told me the blade sort of vanishes like a light saber, but it still looks a bit awkward.

Chris Yost is providing the story and hasn't killed anyone on panel yet, which for fans of his NEW X-MEN, is a shocker. But he also managed RUNAWAYS/YOUNG AVENGERS SI fine and has written other decent work for comics and TV. Dustin Weaver provides the art and I hadn't ever heard of him before, but his art immediately made an impression, and in a good way. I hope to see more from him in the future; space isn't the easiest genre to get. It includes having to draw a lot of funky designs and locals while having everything flow well and be believable and easy to follow, and Weaver gets it. The issue ends with some of the remaining reps from other planets growing concerned about the Shi'ar's conquest, especially as they're the only major space power now, and Havok managing to store some energy after all. As someone who feeds on cosmic energy for power, space is his playground.

Space has had a knack in recent years for making characters who otherwise were being forgotten kick ass, and Havok certainly could use that. Vulcan is also a perfect villain for an ANNIHILATION style event; he's angry and has a messload of energy powers. Looks like a fine mini so far, and a good start.

WORLD WAR HULK: INCREDIBLE HERC and INCREDIBLE HERCULES: AGAINST THE WORLD: After about a gazillion recommendations from Hypers, I decided that "getting around to Incredible Herc eventually" meant starting this week. I'm wacky and random like that. So one hectic afternoon across Brooklyn and $54 later, I have all three collections of past stories as well as the last three issues to catch up on; nearly two years worth of stories. These two trades cover INCREDIBLE HULK/HERCULES #106-115 as well as the HULK VS. HERCULES: WHEN TITANS COLLIDE one shot.

First off, I have to say that Marvel a lot of times isn't pricing their trades very well. Some of these trades have 5 or less issues in them for $14.99, which is actually about 4 cents more expensive than 5 regular issues would be. Less than 5 issues for that price is friggin' inflated. But perhaps the most appalling is the HC edition of the SECRET INVASION arc that I haven't gotten to yet. Five issues for $19.99. And there's NO cheaper trade option for that arc because Marvel is holding off on the trade for the SI Herc arc until sometime in the spring or something, so if you want to catch up, you either need to hunt down back issues, or pony up an extra $5 for no reason other than zero ads and a hard cover. It almost feels like a double whammy considering the increasing prices of Marvel's mini's and Avengers titles will likely cause a few more people to "trade wait", and now it seems like Marvel is doing everything possible to nickel and dime the trades, too! What a great way to irritate fans who have half a brain and look at prices; guess Marvel dislikes smart customers. Fortunately, my shop offers 10% off on trades. Amazon would have been way cheaper, but I would have had to wait and possibly then visit one of the Seven Circles of Hell, the Post Office. I'm fine with supporting my local shop with buying trades, but does Marvel need to make them a buck or more expensive than they have to be? Marvel's done that "overpriced small HC first, then like half a year for the trade" baloney with other critically acclaimed arcs like CAPTAIN AMERICA. Apparently, the moral is either to screw your LCS and buy online, wait longer to hop on (maybe for the Omnibus), or eat extra cash. Make Mine Marvel!

(I recall when USM trades used to be about $1-$3 cheaper than buying the solo issues combined every arc, so it was once worth it)

But in all honesty, that's just me fishing for something to complain about to make myself feel whole. Halfway through with the Herc run so far and I have to say that it was worth recommending and is pretty enjoyable. I suppose a short reaction would be, "It's like THOR only STUFF HAPPENS!"

The first part that leads into Herc taking over the title was the WWH tie in on INCREDIBLE HULK, that introduced the Renegades as a group of heroes siding with Amedous Cho in trying to help the Hulk. Greg Pak writes most of these issues solo, although Jeff Parker is credited with some of it in the interiors. Considering Jeff came up with the AGENTS OF ATLAS, it makes more sense when Namora, who he resurrected, shows up fairly quickly. Hercules and Angel, two former members of the defunct Champions of L.A. seek to attone for their past misunderstandings with Hulk in giving him the benefit of the doubt now. However, it becomes clear that Cho is seeing the Hulk with rose colored glasses and while he had many points about how often Hulk has been manipulated, provoked, or attacked, he also fails to see many of the Hulk's downsides until it is too late. A few people recommended skipping this trade to save $15, but I am glad I went with it. It provided good context for what was to come, such as the formation of the team up of Herc & Cho and Herc's meeting with Namora. Plus, Angel actually is pretty cool here; he rarely gets things to do outside of the X-Men, whereas back in the old days he was forming all sorts of teams like the Champions or the Defenders.

Amadeus Cho is one of those brainiac kids who sort of jumps back and forth between awesome and annoying, between funny and irritating. His super-intelligence (the fact that he is "The 7th Smartest Mind on the Earth" is stated more often than Brainiac-5 usually mentions his "12th Level Intellect") allows him to pretty much magically solve any jam with just a well times throw of a pebble or hacking any software. To be fair, many other genuis characters do this, we just had 30-40 years to get used to it. Balancing him out is Hercules, who isn't usually that bright and is more of a brawler than a superhero, even though he has been both. He is among the most flawed of the gods, but that is why he is interesting. While I read Herc a few times here and there in Avengers reprints, as a kid my first exposure to him was probably in the HEROES FOR HIRE series of the 90's in which he was a founding member of Rand's outfit, providing the core muscle even when Luke Cage eventually joined. Probably the highlight of the WWH issues was the end when the Renegades have to help Wong stop an escaped Zom from destroying NYC. The lowlight was issue #108, which is basically filler between Rick Jones and Miek.

Of course, the title soon changed to INCREDIBLE HERCULES and for all intents and purposes is a Hercules title with issue #113. This is a curious strategy since this sort of thing hasn't been in vogue in comics for decades. However, in October after 10 issues under the format, the book is still selling at 42k within the Top 60, which is probably better than a regular HERCULES title relaunched with a #1 earlier in the year would have sold.

Once the format changed, Greg Pak gained a co-writer in Van Lente, who usually toils on thankless Marvel Adventures stuff but also did SUPERVILLAIN TEAM-UP: MODOK'S 11 a while back. The shift in the tone is easy to notice. While not a comedy, the book doesn't take itself as seriously. Most importantly, Hercules becomes a more focused and well rounded character. While still funny and full of those things we attribute him to (booze, flirting, and recklessness), there also is a side to Hercules that is aware of his faults and genuinely wants to be a hero that sets some sort of example for this brainiac kid he is stuck protecting. The stories of ancient Greek mythology and intertwined with currect actions and also are given twists to make a point in the story. Hercules goes from being a sort of punch-line side Avenger to being fascinating and enjoyable enough to be more than worthy of his own ongoing title, even if he had to piggy-back Hulk's to do so. He is a character with a lot of history, tragedy, and pathos, both during ancient and modern times, and Pak & Van Lente capture that marvelously. Cho also takes a little more of a back seat to Hercules and isn't as omnipotent as in the WWH story, which is also good so he doesn't get played out, and we still remember he is still a kid. Attempting to attone for their errors in WWH, Hercules and Cho find themselves on the run from SHIELD and especially from a vengeful Ares. Honestly, this is the best use of Ares since he joined the MIGHTY AVENGERS and even his wonky behavior is explained as a "phase of the planet Mars" and it makes sense. There also is plenty of action and it is a series that isn't nearly as pretentious or slow paced as THOR sometimes is. The artwork is also consistently good from a variety of artists.

While I am hardly about to crown this my favorite Marvel book above CAPTAIN AMERICA or NOVA, it definitely is worthy of my pull list and investing in the time and money to catch up on. I should be done with the next eight issues or so in short order. Add INCREDIBLE HERCULES to another one of Marvel's successful relaunches.
 
I think I'm off most of my monthlies for a while,I've finally broken free of the weekly stranglehold.The only titles I'm sticking to are Cap,DD,Green Lantern and possibly Iron Fist,Herc or Thunderbolts.
If you really enjoy the first two of those (Herc and Iron Fist), you should keep reading them in singles; they're the kind of lower-selling titles that need to keep a steady audience to stick around.
 
See this is where the racism metaphor just breaks down altogether. Who gives a **** if a handful of states want to ban mutants ****ing when you could fit the entirety of the damn species in Hugh Hefner's bedroom and tell 'em to go **** themselves silly?

Who gives a **** if America bans them altogether? The entire species can go live on an island somewhere and just not give a ****. It wouldn't even have to be a big island.
I don't know what the higher ups at Marvel were smoking when they decided mutants were no longer a minority because there were a few million of them worldwide.

"Oh no! There are almost as many mutants worldwide as there are Chinese people in the United States! We have to thin the herd to make them feel like a minority group again."
"How many should we have left?"
"Just under 200. You know, not enough mutants to populate a small town."
 
They were thinking "oh no, mutants will overwhelm the rest of the universe", which was stupid, because the rest of the MU rarely ever takes note of mutants.

Now, Morrison's run, like a lot of his stuff, was an exercise in writing the franchise into a corner, and some aspects, such as his declaration that regular humans would become extinct in a generation or so, would never hold (kind of put a damper over all the other human heroes); but the broader mutant population could have been left as is.
 
I kind of feel like an ******* for even telling you about it but then I remembered oh yeah I kind of am an ******* (what can I say, repeated exposure to TMOB's posts finally had their effect)

You love me... :oldrazz: :oldrazz: :oldrazz:

:yay:
 
I always thought the X-Men worked best in a universe without superheroes.

I don't understand the mutant hysteria angle when there's countless other powerful beings known to the public.
 
I always thought the X-Men worked best in a universe without superheroes.

I don't understand the mutant hysteria angle when there's countless other powerful beings known to the public.
Allow me to explain with a racial metaphor...

On one hand, you have a white man with a George Hamilton-esque tan.
On the other hand, you have a Latino with the same skin tone.

Who is a racist white parent more likely to allow their daughter to date?
 
The people of the Marvel Universe are generally a distrustful lot, anyway (especially now).

Busiek in Marvels I thought did the best job of differentiating the reaction to guys like Cap and to mutants.
 
The people of the Marvel Universe are generally a distrustful lot, anyway (especially now).

The Marvel universe citizens passed "distrustful" in the 60's. Nowadays they are paranoid, hysterical ingrates who don't appreciate what true heroism is until a hero is dead....maybe. Deep down they yearn to be ruled by some despot in some slave state scenerio and these pesky heroes keep getting in the way. :p
 
You know the people of the Marvel Universe are screwed up when a team of superheroes fail to stop a mad bomber, and their immediate reaction is "we've got to get some of these pesky superheroes off the street."
 
"Your guilty conscience may force you to vote Democratic, but secretly you yearn for a cold-hearted Republican who’ll cut taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king!"
 

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