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Bought/Thought 12/17

Speaking of that pointy-haired nimrod...I cannot believe I just paid eighty-five dollars to buy Dissidia Final Fantasy and then have it shipped across the sea to me.

The depths to which a fanboy will sink? I've just set the bar PRETTY DAMN LOW..
 
You're spending 80 ****ing dollars on Ehrgeitz 2008?? Seriously WTF is the matter with you?
 
Speaking of that pointy-haired nimrod...I cannot believe I just paid eighty-five dollars to buy Dissidia Final Fantasy and then have it shipped across the sea to me.

The depths to which a fanboy will sink? I've just set the bar PRETTY DAMN LOW..



hows the game anyway
 
You're spending 80 ****ing dollars on Ehrgeitz 2008?? Seriously WTF is the matter with you?
Hey man, some people here whose names I certainly won't Corp mention used to spend that much on comics per week. I'm allowed a binge.

'Sides, Ehrgeiz certainly didn't feature this and this and most importantly not this.

hows the game anyway
Dunno yet. Fedex says the package is in...hmm, Hong Kong. But critical reception has been extremely positive amongst reviewers and fans.
 
Hey man, some people here whose names I certainly won't Corp mention used to spend that much on comics per week. I'm allowed a binge.

'Sides, Ehrgeiz certainly didn't feature this and this and most importantly not this.

I'm trying to convince myself I don't care and totally, totally failing.

This is totally going to be that one thing Square does every five years that makes me say hey maybe Square isn't completely **** these days and then I play it and go oh okay, yeah they are.
 
Well you'll find out for sure in...oh, mid-2009. Me, I'm pretty sure I'm going to regret buying this less than I regret buying Spore, at the least.
 
BrianWilly said:
Batgirl #6...by Beechen
Really goo...oh wait no, this was still ****. :dry: Nevermind.

(3.9 out of 10)

I basically read as much of that series that Scans_Daily has on it and I think that the ending of Bruce adopting Cassandra would have been really good if the rest of it weren't utter horse**** :cmad:
 
But, I won't be fooled into sticking with New Avengers or trying Dark Avengers. Bendis is great for this; a few issues that range from "Meh" to "What the **** are you smoking!?" and then eventually one is even good and it makes you think, "has he gotten it back"? The answer is always no. He's become an aging baseball player who may be good for the occasional home run or grand slam, but whose best work is clearly behind him. That may be good enough for the NY Yankees, but not me.

To be fair to Bendis, I think Dark Avengers and New Avengers are going to be worth checking out at least.

Marvel is pretty much telling us that the Dark Avengers aren't the Avengers but awful people like Bullseye, Ares, and Daken who are using and sullying the Avengers name and are the "official" Avengers team simply because of Norman Osborn.

New Avengers is more along the lines of the anti-Osborn team with Spider-Man, Luke Cage, and Ms. Marvel in the ranks.

The true Avengers team will clearly be Slott's Mighty Avengers.
 
Slott better turn his classic Avengers dial up to 11 on Mighty Avengers, is all I'm saying. It's been about 5 years since any Avengers fans had a proper Avengers comic that they could be proud of. I think we're due.
Hey man, some people here whose names I certainly won't Corp mention used to spend that much on comics per week. I'm allowed a binge.

'Sides, Ehrgeiz certainly didn't feature this and this and most importantly not this.
What, effeminate boys and knights in ugly armor? :huh:
 
Shoot, I must have linked wrong. But I could have sworn I posted some magazine scans of three of the best characters in all gaming history instead of the new Star Trek trailer.

Please don't tell me you've never heard of Cecil or Terra before. Please. I'ma be real here, it'd be like you telling me that you've never heard of Donkey Kong.
 
Shoot, I must have linked wrong. But I could have sworn I posted some magazine scans of three of the best characters in all gaming history instead of the new Star Trek trailer.

Please don't tell me you've never heard of Cecil or Terra before. Please. I'ma be real here, it'd be like you telling me that you've never heard of Donkey Kong.
Cecil and Terra while cool, they uh...let's put it to you gentle. Most people don't know who the **** they are. They were before Final Fantasy became ''mainstream." And by that I mean everyone started sucking Square's teet with Final Fantasy VII.
 
To be fair to Bendis, I think Dark Avengers and New Avengers are going to be worth checking out at least.

Marvel is pretty much telling us that the Dark Avengers aren't the Avengers but awful people like Bullseye, Ares, and Daken who are using and sullying the Avengers name and are the "official" Avengers team simply because of Norman Osborn.

New Avengers is more along the lines of the anti-Osborn team with Spider-Man, Luke Cage, and Ms. Marvel in the ranks.

The true Avengers team will clearly be Slott's Mighty Avengers.

Truly.

I just...I'm just tired of reading Bendis team comics. Very, very tired. Half of why I would read them was to find a reason to ***** about them, and I always could, 95% of the time. Even in decent issues there was always some screw up, or thing that made no sense, or some annoying line or sequence. I am tired of that, and especially at $4 an issue. It isn't like there is some drought of good Marvel material, either. There are plenty of genuinely good Marvel books out there. Just this week I caught up on another, INCREDIBLE HERCULES. There's no need, or at least less justified need, to venture into Bendis Land anymore.

Slott better turn his classic Avengers dial up to 11 on Mighty Avengers, is all I'm saying. It's been about 5 years since any Avengers fans had a proper Avengers comic that they could be proud of. I think we're due.

Agreed.

Onto more B/T!

INCREDIBLE HERCULES: SECRET INVASION and INCREDIBLE HERCULES #120-123: This concludes my "catch-up" portions of INCREDIBLE HERCULES; from here on out it will be all monthly. Pretty much everything that most posters say about the series is true; it is loaded with continuity, yet takes the characters in directions that suit them. It plays with Marvel Greek Mythology that can be altered or tweaked, but such are not done in shocking or illogical ways. It often has great art and as much of a sense of humor as it does a sense of adventure. Hercules has never been this cool or readable before.

The only caveat is that modern method of spitting out HC's instead of trades merely serves to make trade waiters pay an extra $5 for nothing. The HC for IH:SI offers no extras; nothing to make it worth an extra $5 for the five issues within (cover price would be about $14.96) aside for maybe a summary and bits about the authors on the jackets, which isn't really a must. It simply is a place-holder for the trade, which Amazon claims will come in March, 2009. With a book like INCREDIBLE HERCULES, or any Marvel title really, readers should not be encouraged to wait another 4-5 months for a better priced trade. I get the impression this is done to edge out trade waiters or milk them as much as the monthly fans get milked, but both are "dare ya to bail on Marvel" type strategies in the wake of a recession. Marvel may still put out great books like this one, but knowing they couldn't care less about how much money such books cost you every paycheck takes some oomph out of the Mighty Marvel Manor. Marvel simply assumes their fans are so ravenous that they'll eat an extra buck for books or an extra five to read trades within a half a year. It's all very cynical.

Granted, with my 10% discount at the shop, most of these extra costs were eliminated so I only paid maybe a nickel more than cover price. But I was just saying.

What isn't cynical, of course, is INCREDIBLE HERCULES. It's a fast paced action filled tale of myth, magic, war and friendship. The addition of Fred Van Lente helped the book greatly after issue #112 and the last eight issues have been among the best yet. Greg Pak's solo issues before (or alongside Jeff Parker) during WWH were fine adventure tales, but the humor angle increased with Van Lente and the focus shifted of course frm Amadeus Cho to Hercules, who has become quite a character. Sure, he's a brawler, superhero, and eternal playah, but he's also more complex at times and has some private tragedies.

The SECRET INVASION arc from #116-120 naturally covers the tie in with the event and as usual it was better than the event proper. Considering the large impact, it is surprising that it was not promoted more. After meeting up with Hercules' sister Athena, the Goddess of Wisdom, Herc is mistaken for Gilgamesh the Forgotten One, a dead member of the Eternals and former Avenger, by Thena and Ikaris of the Eternals in California. After a quick fight, though, everything is resolved, in time for Athena to meet with a squad of gods about the upcoming Skrull war with Earth. Noting that the end of Earth would lead to their end as well, she implores the Gods to send forth fighters to aid in the struggle. Hercules is miffed that Athena never warned him of such a burden, especially as she wants HIM to play leader of the so-called "God Squad". Sent forth are Snowbird of ALPHA FLIGHT, Ajak of the Eternals, Demogorge (who eats Gods whenever there's an "end of times"), and Amatsu-Mikaboshi of Japan, and the ARES trade. Demogorge of course is there as a "shepard" who tends to a flock before slaughtering them; Amatsu for his vile tricks, and so on. Cho of course plays the token mortal. Snowbird was especially cool to see, given she refuses to join Michael Pointer's Omega Flight and actually has some dignity. Plus, it was good to see her in an adventure where she wasn't guest starring in WOLVERINE or something. She still has survivor's guilt, which Nightmare later exposes. The group is sent to battle the Skrull Gods Kly'bn and Sl'gur't by accessing the Dream World, which of course leads to a showdown with Nightmare. It exposes all of their unique fears, which Hercules manages to overcome with some luck and guile. Making the wolf cub a Skrull spy was a bit sudden, but more of a plot convenience.

Snowbird finds comfort in Hercules' arms (of course; Clint Barton WISHES he got as much tail) and they rally to defeat the Skrull gods, although it seemingly costs Demogorge his life. Cho fakes his death to get Hercules riled enough, and Snowbird seemingly sacrifices herself to get past some minions before saving him. Having the Skrulls start to lose the war, even having Mr. Fantastic escape the moment they die, at least leads some reason as to why the Skrulls seemed to go down a bit like idiots in the final act. The fight was pretty good and the art by Rafa Sandoval was top notch; the Romita Jr. covers were also great. I like how they have a taste of how Hercules should fight, using either Greco-Roman wrestling or axe-handle smashes.

The next arc of course still has two chapters left and is called WAR AND LOVE, from issues #121-123 so far. In it the tone gets somewhat more comical as "love is in the air" of spring (as groans Ares at SILLY'S GREEK DINER) as Hercules and Cho go on holiday at an island near Namora's section of the sea, where the two rekindle their flirting from the WWH affair. Of course, Herc faked drowning to get to first base with Namor's sultry cousin, and even has time to retell his Atlas adventure to mock her organization's name (The Agents of Atlas), as well as wrestle with her. Naturally they come off as, erm, "Warriors with Benefits" but it is possible there could be more, although who knows what Hercules thinks sometimes. The holiday is soon interupted by an attack by Amazons in their Princess' quest to have access to the mythical Axis Mundi to gain revenge against man's world. Cho is kidnapped and tricked into recoding at Atlantian document, and they even have to rescue the god Poseidon. Namor also doesn't quite take to Herc's persona; I like the humor with the sound effects, especially the KRAKKAJAMMA! sound of Herc punching Namor into the ocean at one point. It is good to see Namor somewhere where he isn't acting like Norman Osborn is a force that endangers him.

The Atlantians are connected to the mythology very well so of course that gives the thing with Namora more weight. It helps flesh her out between Jeff Parker AGENTS stories and between MIGHTY AVENGERS and AGENTS OF ATLAS, there may be a Triforce of Hercules going on at Marvel.

The Queen of the Amazons is killed by her overzealous daughter, and the Princess even kills a Gorgan girl for making out with Cho, and yes, that goofy "Thumb's Up" that Hercules gives Cho when he thinks he's about to score is pretty damned priceless. Anubis has had it as his avatar for months and it still was friggin' hilarious. The art this time is by Clayton Henry, who has toiled on some X-books and a few random one-shots (like WHAT IF: WOLVERINE VS. SPIDER-MAN from last year) and his art really shines in INCREDIBLE HERCULES. The title seems to change artists about every 5 issues but I hope Henry can stick around a bit. Although if he and Sandoval are going to rotate every arc, that might be fine, too.

In some ways, the book reminds me of a more grown up version of MIGHTY MAX, in which a young teenage adventurer who almost is as smart as he is cocky is paired with an immortal warrior who encourages and inspires him. Only, of course, instead of being focused on Max, it is focused on Norman. And there are no bird-characters that talk. But there is that sense of adventure and character depth & interaction.

The cliffhanger at the end of the last issue has Pluto and Athena planning on taking over the Greek God Pantheon with Zeus' death and of course uniting to kill Hercules and Athena, an act that Ares may or may not aid in. I like how the series is able to keep Ares as a foil of Hercules while noting that he is now an official Avenger too. If anything, that adds to the tension.

I won't lie and say INCREDIBLE HERC is my absolute favorite book from Marvel; that Top Slot is spared for a CAPTAIN AMERICA/NOVA tie. But it would be tied with GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY for very, very Close Second. In fact with more thought I think it may be a smidge more enjoyable than GOTG. Which means it naturally adds to the Mighty Marvel Goodness in my pull list. $55 well spent. Naturally I can't wait for more, which is how it should be.
 
Cecil and Terra while cool, they uh...let's put it to you gentle. Most people don't know who the **** they are. They were before Final Fantasy became ''mainstream." And by that I mean everyone started sucking Square's teet with Final Fantasy VII.
Yeah, but we ain't "most people." We're geeks! Tried and true! You'd have to have skipped the SNES entirely to not know about those two, and that's not something a geek would do.

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Hell, I'm hardly the biggest gamer out there, and I know who Cecil is. Back when FINAL FANTASY was a game and not a series of cinemas with gameplay occasionally poking in. :p
 
Im looking forward to this just for Kefka .... and everybody else who am I kidding
 
The title seems to change artists about every 5 issues but I hope Henry can stick around a bit. Although if he and Sandoval are going to rotate every arc, that might be fine, too.
Henry will be doing another arc in 2009 according to Fred Van Lente (probably the one after the Dark Reign tie-in, which would be issues 127-130/31, and possibly the Thor appearance that's been talked up).
 
Yeah, but we ain't "most people." We're geeks! Tried and true! You'd have to have skipped the SNES entirely to not know about those two, and that's not something a geek would do.

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A geek with a Genesis would. :) The only SNES RPG I've played is Chrono Trigger, which I admit is the best RPG ever made, but I've never been into Final Fantasy. Every version I've played of it has bored me to tears, and that includes FFVII. I tend to favor Western RPGs and hate pretty much everything about JRPGs at this point.
 
Truth be told, I couldn't bear to finish FFVII, and I loved FVI. It's the exact same gameplay (even the 'materia' of VII works identically to the 'espers' of VI), only with 3D graphics and ridiculously overdramatized characters.
 
Truth be told, I couldn't bear to finish FFVII, and I loved FVI. It's the exact same gameplay (even the 'materia' of VII works identically to the 'espers' of VI), only with 3D graphics and ridiculously overdramatized characters.

That's my feelings in a nutshell. People who are quick to call it the greatest game ever tend to forget flaws like this.
 
What, that it has some pretty deep characters? Just because the main character is pretty depressed from time to time (IM SURE YOU WOULD BE TOO IF YOU FOUND OUT THAT YOUR ENTIRE LIFE WAS A LIE AND THAT THE PERSON YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE WAS REALLY JUST SOME BADASS YOU KNEW A WHILE BACK THAT TURNED OUT TO BE THE ORIGINAL CLONE THAT YOU WERE MADE FROM), and it has Vincent (which was before any sort of "vampire" craze IE Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Twilight, So on and so forth) who's just some total nutjob sorta depressed a lot of people write the game off.

FFVII was ****ing BRILLIANT. Not only did it introduce a new generation to RPGs, JRPG's, and some of the best "total badass moments" in gaming history (UHHH HELLO IM SEPHIROTH FOR FUN I ENJOY BURNING DOWN ENTIRE CITIES WHILE THEIR POPULACE IS TRAPPED IN THEM, JUST SO I CAN HEAR THEM SCREAM, OH AND BY THE WAY ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE GAME I'M GOING TO BRUTALLY MURDER YOUR GIRLFRIEND WHO, BY THE WAY IS REALLY THIS ANCIENT BEING AND IS THE LAST KEY TO KEEPING ME FROM MY GOAL OF TOTAL GODHOOD). Don't hate on it cause it's popular, hate on it for reasons that are actual viable. Like the uh...and the...well, there aren't many.
 
Henry will be doing another arc in 2009 according to Fred Van Lente (probably the one after the Dark Reign tie-in, which would be issues 127-130/31, and possibly the Thor appearance that's been talked up).

That's cool. Like I said, I've seen Henry toil on some rather thankless books before and INCREDIBLE HERCULES seems perfect for him.

That's my feelings in a nutshell. People who are quick to call it the greatest game ever tend to forget flaws like this.

That's hilarious. :up: All it needs is for the ending music track to be, "CCRRRAAAWWLLLING IIINNNN MYYYY SKKKIIIIIIINNNNN!"

Few people can tell the difference between "character depth" and "emo". Writing that a character would be depressed after terrible things happen to him is hardly the pinnacle of originality.
 
I seem to remember Cloud having absolutely no range of emotions. He was always depressed about something, and that something changed throughout the game. If it's not his troubled childhood, it's his friends, his dead girlfriend, the fact that all of his flashbacks belong to a dead guy named Zack and Tifa never bothered to point that out, ect. ect.

Cloud wasn't a character. He was a sadsack with a huge sword.
 
Much as Sentry, at least under Bendis, Pak, or other writers, is not a character. He is a psychosis with legs. ;)
 
I seem to remember Cloud having absolutely no range of emotions. He was always depressed about something, and that something changed throughout the game. If it's not his troubled childhood, it's his friends, his dead girlfriend, the fact that all of his flashbacks belong to a dead guy named Zack and Tifa never bothered to point that out, ect. ect.

Cloud wasn't a character. He was a sadsack with a huge sword.

Yeah, because if all those things happened to you in the short span the story cannonically takes place (which is less than 2 weeks, yes?) you wouldn't be super ****ing depressed.
 
I just talked to the guy who manages my LCS, and we're getting our comics on the 24th AND on the 31st, while the Yanks will have to wait for either Friday or Monday...

God Love Canada... :word: :up: :word:

:yay:


:cmad: I'll give YOU something to yank!


:cwink: :woot:
 

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