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Bought/Thought 4/2 Secret Invasion Edition

Or Whedon revives her, and for the life of me I don't see why.

You mean like how he killed Cyclops and then revived him an issue later for absolutely no reason? :whatever:

Do yourself and the rest of us favor and stop buying Bendis-written comics. You're so blatantly biased against him that you will never enjoy anything he writes, so why bother? Just seems like a colossal waste of time and money to buy and subsequently ***** about everything Bendis writes, has written, or ever will write.
 
Okay, first off, I like Brand. I really want them to get back to Earth all pissed off that the skrulls blew up their space station. Second off, I'm confused about the timelines of AXM and SI as well...

In any case, I feel like you did-- at least two issues of HofM were some heroes going around waking up other heroes, and the issues were filled with them all going "no no it can't be a dream!" I think Bendis' pacing with the 1st Secret Invasion issue was pretty good. I actually wish all the issues would be longer than the standard comic size. I was really spoiled!

Like I said in the review, SI #1 isn't bad and is better than I expected. I am just expecting the **** to hit the fan at any time now.

You mean like how he killed Cyclops and then revived him an issue later for absolutely no reason? :whatever:

Do yourself and the rest of us favor and stop buying Bendis-written comics. You're so blatantly biased against him that you will never enjoy anything he writes, so why bother? Just seems like a colossal waste of time and money to buy and subsequently ***** about everything Bendis writes, has written, or ever will write.

Whedon had a reason; Cyclops is a major character to the mythos. It was part of Scott's plan to get close enough to Kruun to take him out and fool his army and whatnot. The fact that Kruun is a generic leader of a generic race of aliens notwithstanding.

If I dropped Bendis books, I'd have to miss out on all the fun event conversations. Besides, I usually do like staying current. Being a completist blows sometimes.

And, uh...If I did that, then the terrorists win. :o
 
wait if Pym is a skrull. Does that mean the Pym that got merked by KIA in the initiative is dead?
 
You mean like how he killed Cyclops and then revived him an issue later for absolutely no reason? :whatever:

Do yourself and the rest of us favor and stop buying Bendis-written comics. You're so blatantly biased against him that you will never enjoy anything he writes, so why bother? Just seems like a colossal waste of time and money to buy and subsequently ***** about everything Bendis writes, has written, or ever will write.

He can buy whatever he wants I say. And if he buys Bendis' comics and rails about them on the net it is hard to say who is getting the better of who in that transaction :cwink:

But Whedon killed Cyclops for a very distinct purpose actually. It was all part of a major plan to trick the Break-Worlders' leader. I mean, I never believed that Cyclops would die so I was like "w/e" at the last page. [BLACKOUT]Just like I don't and won't believe that Richards is dead so I'm like "not really" but that's me.[/BLACKOUT] I did believe that Brand had died. I was almost like "aww" (almost). So to see her back just confuses me... I don't think Bendis should touch on X-men comics though... it is working so hard at being its own world, I don't consider him an X writer, which makes it a bit worse in my mind, and I think it is also strange that he isn't touching Brubaker's work. Why not? Why not also not touch on Whedons work and Uncanny and Legacy? I don't get that. I think they are friends and Brubaker was said "Cap and Daredevil are my books."
 
You mean like how he killed Cyclops and then revived him an issue later for absolutely no reason? :whatever:

Do yourself and the rest of us favor and stop buying Bendis-written comics.

Do the rest of US a favor and pull your head out of Marvel's ass for 5 seconds. IF that's possible.

It's almost impossible to keep up with Marvel's universe these days without having to read some Bendis drivel, because he has carte blanche to the whole thing. So some of us have to buy his crap or at least read it to keep up.
 
I don't read any of his books.But keep myself updated thourgh this board.:woot:
 
Alright fine so I broke some unwritten rule so now everyone has their fun at my expense. I wasn't trying to get any points or "rep." I was just trying to be helpful-- my previous reply gives my reasons, but w/e.

Someone else can make a new bought/thought thread and everyone will just post there. I'll make a note of it for next time and review some books.


You know what, DJ, I've never seen such a bunch of *****y whiners where this subject is concerned. I'm tempted to make next weeks B/T tonight.
 
If I dropped Bendis books, I'd have to miss out on all the fun event conversations. Besides, I usually do like staying current. Being a completist blows sometimes.

You don't have to buy the comics in order to know their stories. You could always, you know, read the spoilers for an issue online.

But Whedon killed Cyclops for a very distinct purpose actually. It was all part of a major plan to trick the Break-Worlders' leader. I mean, I never believed that Cyclops would die so I was like "w/e" at the last page. [blackout]Just like I don't and won't believe that Richards is dead so I'm like "not really" but that's me.[/blackout] I did believe that Brand had died. I was almost like "aww" (almost).

Yes, that was the plot reason for doing it. But, in reality, it shows that Whedon has absolutely no interest in keeping dead people dead. One of the first things he did in AXM was inexplicably revive Colossus. It's foolish to think that Agent Brand is dead, especially since she's on the cover for the Giant-sized issue.

Do the rest of US a favor and pull your head out of Marvel's ass for 5 seconds. IF that's possible.

It's almost impossible to keep up with Marvel's universe these days without having to read some Bendis drivel, because he has carte blanche to the whole thing. So some of us have to buy his crap or at least read it to keep up.

There is something wrong with you. That's at least the second time you've accused me of being a Marvel zombie with no real provocation. Chill out.
 
Okay, first off, I like Brand. I really want them to get back to Earth all pissed off that the skrulls blew up their space station. Second off, I'm confused about the timelines of AXM and SI as well...

Well, if I'm not mistaken, AXM takes place before Messiah Complex, which takes place before Secret Invasion.

Cassaday...
 
Yes, that was the plot reason for doing it. But, in reality, it shows that Whedon has absolutely no interest in keeping dead people dead. One of the first things he did in AXM was inexplicably revive Colossus. It's foolish to think that Agent Brand is dead, especially since she's on the cover for the Giant-sized issue.

Good point. Colossus did come back from nowhere. Had I known more about his death one could even say his revival were... strange. I grappled with Brand being on the cover for a while and my solution was this-- covers lie... at times... but you're probably right. The cover is pretty strong evidence. Hopefully Brand will show up more often. I thought she was great.
 
Yes, that was the plot reason for doing it. But, in reality, it shows that Whedon has absolutely no interest in keeping dead people dead. One of the first things he did in AXM was inexplicably revive Colossus. It's foolish to think that Agent Brand is dead, especially since she's on the cover for the Giant-sized issue.

And as we all know, ladies and gentlemen, covers are the truths of the universe and never for show or eye-attraction.
 
Dread's BOUGHT/THOUGHT for 4/2/08:

SECRET INVASION #1:
Oh, and the whole "lightening in the back" cover has seriously been played out since NA #1.

I wanted to point why this was stupid but will let someone else take the free shot.
 
I wanted to point why this was stupid but will let someone else take the free shot.

I think I'm fine just watching the spectacle that is Dread :wow:

Now I really think there are skrulls on the hype.
 
And as we all know, ladies and gentlemen, covers are the truths of the universe and never for show or eye-attraction.

Sticking Brand--who has no flashy superpowers--in the background of an overcrowded cover is hardly "eye-attraction." She obviously plays a role in the story.
 
Thats a good point Blader, plus if she was dead, you'd think they'd give her more than a two panels for her death scene.
 
The end of the Action Comics book was amazing. I acquired the whole Legion run (current) and read it since I started reading this arc, and I'm 100% excited for the Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds tie-ins.

Nightwing was fun. Tomasi is doing an amazing job on this book. The past arc has been a very good, very fun read. His banter is top notch, and the way he writes Tim and Dick together is the best I've read. They truely act like brothers, and he shows the different skills of the two. He also brings in the new bat-vehicle that is totally badass. He writes Dick good. He's using all his skills, and all his resources to get things done. I mean come on, he uses the JSA to set up his new place and the JLA to get a map of the island. How true is that? I really do suggest this arc, Freefall, as it's one of the best Nightwing stories since the first few arcs.

I want a Nightwing & Robin ongoing written by Tomasi. Now
 
You know what, DJ, I've never seen such a bunch of *****y whiners where this subject is concerned. I'm tempted to make next weeks B/T tonight.

Seriously. It's rediculous sometimes. If you're reading a comic you hate just to keep caught up, there's something wrong there. You can keep caught up through message boards.

Know what I did when I wasn't enjoying Spidey anymore? I stopped buying it. Weird, I know.
 
Secret Invasion #1: Pretty good. I've talked about it far more in the SI thread, so I'm not going to go over it all again here. Suffice it to say that Bendis has set up some interesting ideas and I'm looking forward to seeing how they turn out, Yu's art was great, and Bendis' dialogue still sucks, but it sucks a little less than I remember.

Young Avengers Presents: Wiccan & Speed: Kind of boring. Nice nods to Avengers West Coast continuity and all, but after I finished reading I was left wondering what the point was. Billy and Tommy's search for their mom was one part of the Young Avengers plot that I was really interested in seeing come to fruition, but instead we just get the two of them running around to various places, meeting Pandemonium, and then deciding they don't really need to find their mom after all. Talk about a weak payoff. Oh well, Urusov's art was good, although I think it was better in her Loners story in the Christmas special. It looked a little rushed here.

Angel: After the Fall #6
I was getting kind of bored toward the end of the first arc, truth be told, so I was looking forward to these "First Night" flashbacks. But after the team came back together and we got a startling revelation about Fred last issue, I'm now anxious to get through "First Night" and back into the real story. Oh, Whedon and Lynch, how you tug me to and fro! Anyway, onto the stories.

Betta George, the telepathic fish dude--whom I know virtually nothing about because Lynch hasn't seen fit to actually tell any of us who didn't read his earlier Spike stories anything about him--starts and ends the issue, which makes you think he'd be something of a framing device... but no. He basically just laments his situation for a page at the beginning and then gets threatened by the thug Gunn's got watching him at the end. Not much framing going on there.

Format aside, these little vignettes about the characters' literal first night in Hell-A were fun. I particularly liked Connor's story. Unlike Angel's own narration, which often feels out of place or boring because we never got it in the show and because, quite frankly, Angel's kind of a boring guy, Connor's narration does a great job of giving us some insight into his state of mind, which I certainly wondered about after he regained the memories of his past life in Angel season 5. It seems like they're all sort of mixing around in there, but his new memories still seem to trump his old ones. We know he fights like a badass again, but it seems that's mostly muscle memory. His mind is still very much the mind of a normal teenager caught up in very abnormal circumstances. I'm glad for that, since angry badass Connor was... well, let's face it, he was a *****ebag. In a particularly funny panel, Connor also comes to realize how twisted the way he lost his virginity was, which we, of course, already knew because it was one of the worst moments of season 4 and led to a whole series of other terrible moments in season 4. But I digress. What I took away from the Connor story is essentially that he wanted to help Angel but he wasn't quite mentally prepared for the task until the reality of the situation pretty much grabbed him by the scruff of the neck and forced him into the fight. I hope we get to see more of Connor, as I really like his new, less *****ey incarnation. Also, Mooney's art is excellent and sets the mood better than any of the other artists in this issue. I'd love to see more from him.

Spike's story is good, even though I'm sick of Spike. He's the classic reluctant anti-hero. He so wants to not care about the people around him, but he can't help himself. That creates a nice inner conflict that expresses itself in some funny dialogue and internal monologues. The narrative monologue is again used to better effect here than with Angel himself, as it gives us a much better context for how Spike ultimately ends up as the hedonistic "pet" of Illyria that he was when we first saw him. The art by Messina is decent, but he's always had a problem with character likenesses. I couldn't tell the brunette was supposed to be Fred until Spike called her name, and even then I couldn't distinguish between her and that innocent civilian brunette who appeared on the next page. His layouts are good and everything feels very solid and consistent, though. I would've honestly preferred him as the regular penciler over Urru.

Lorne's story was kind of hammy, which I guess fits with Lorne himself. His return to form feels a little too pat and easy, though. He left the show on such a great, dystopic note--the lightest and happiest of the bunch reduced to a dark, lifeless husk of his former self. They could've easily gotten a really awesome, noirish tale of personal redemption out of that, but instead we get... limericks and a lucky break. Such a waste of potential. Byrne's art was pretty much run-of-the-mill Byrne art. It is what it is, either you like it or you don't. He tells the story effectively, but he lacks all of the care and pizzazz he used to inject into his pre-'90s work, as far as I'm concerned.

So overall "First Night" looks like it's going to be pretty good. I'm already dreading the Gunn story, since I think his becoming a villain to the Angel crew is a stupid idea from start to finish, but the rest of the characters' stories should be fun. The letter page had an interesting tidbit, too: there'll be a new art team on the regular After the Fall story once "Final Night" concludes because Urru is moving over to a Spike mini-series. Yay!
 
Seriously. It's rediculous sometimes. If you're reading a comic you hate just to keep caught up, there's something wrong there. You can keep caught up through message boards.

Know what I did when I wasn't enjoying Spidey anymore? I stopped buying it. Weird, I know.

Is that a Communist reference?
 
What I love is the same people that give the whole if you don't love it why do you buy it remarks are without fail the exact same people you hear *****ing the hardest on other boards. And before anyone say's "well I don't do that" think very hard about your previous comments because they'll bite you in the ass on this.

Even if you hate a concept or writer on an event you pretty much have to read it if it "changes everything" just so you know where the current state of affairs is at. Now you could just get caught up on the internet, but that's not always enough as someone else's thoughts will never mirror your own take on something.

Finally, some people buy stuff just on the small chance they get suprised and like the story they end up getting. Personally I don't really like bendis on most of his stories and dispise his "events" with every fiber of my being, but I've also enjoyed his run on Daredevil, Alias and I do like USM. So I do think it's possible this event could surprise and turn out pretty good, I just wouldn't bet on it.

End of the day, anyone that buys the book has as much right to tear it to shreds as someone else does to praise it's brilliance. Different opinions are the point of these boards and anyone saying people who read an issue, think about it a good deal, then articulate some very good points based on their personal opinions and preferences, should just shut up, is not just stupid but missing the point entirely. If you want to hear nothing but your own opinions, don't go on the internet.
 
Synopsis: Don't ***** about other people's *****ing. If you don't like *****ing, get off the internets.
 

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