Bought/Thought for 3/2/11 WITH SPOILERS APLENTY!

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I was actually surprised that we made it to Friday and nobody launched this topic yet. What, was March 2nd really that dead a week in comics? Because I can tell you, it was a bigger week for me than next Wednesday will be. Is there some joke or dare I missed? At any rate, here is the B/T topic, with heavy spoilers.

DREAD'S BOUGHT/THOUGHT FOR 3/2/11:

BATMAN BEYOND #3: This is the end of the first arc of this series as an ongoing series, as opposed to the six issue mini series that launched this. Writer Adam Beechen and artists Ryan Benjamin and John Stanisci once again unite to provide another 20 page outing that should remind fans of the TV show of what they liked about it, while providing new stories. The trade collection of the six issue mini series from the same creative team, called HUSH BEYOND, is also on sale for those who want to be completely abreast. This has been a simple three issue tale; a new threat has arisen, and Batman has to team up with the Justice League Unlimited to handle it. At first being apprehensive about siding with them, as his mentor (the elderly Bruce Wayne), Terry decides it is best to team up with them. However, when his family become hostages of a new Matter Master, Terry has to make sure to reign in his overly aggressive comrades and save the day so nobody dies.

This is a simple finale. The heroes confront the villain and basically hit him until the threat is over. Terry ends up trusting the League more than Wayne did, and even impressing the old man with his own conditions to “teaming up” with the League. Naturally, the roster of the team is the same as from the cartoon series; an Asian, pre-teen Green Lantern, Warhawk, Aquagirl (daughter of Aquaman), Big Barda (because Kid’s WB couldn’t get the TV rights to Wonder Woman at the time), and Micron. There is a subplot about Terry’s girlfriend Dana possibly having an ex-con for a brother, as well as questioning Terry’s commitment (as he left her to become Batman again), but this is all fodder for the future.

The artwork is nice with some effective colors and pacing. It is easy to hear the voice actors from the cartoon reciting the lines from the comics, which is the proper way to build from a TV franchise. It perhaps shows some of DC’s slowness with capitalizing on licenses that it took about a decade after ending for a BEYOND comic to arise, but this is the same company that took two years to sell a series about the Great Ten, a team who appeared in 52. As a result, THE GREAT TEN ended at issue nine (cue jokes). This issue also introduces a letter column for the series, which has become semi-frequent in Marvel titles but hasn’t been so for many DC titles. It usually is extra work for writers and editors, but given that DC has trimmed two pages from their single issues, it is perhaps for the best to throw in some extra content.

This wasn’t an issue, or an arc, that sought to reinvent the wheel or be compared to WATCHMEN. However, it was a satisfying conclusion to a satisfying opening arc of an overdue BATMAN BEYOND ongoing series, and on that level it is a success.

ANNIHILATORS #1: This week offers a double dose of material from the tag team writing duo of Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning. While the two have been making their mark in more earth based Marvel books these days - including being announced as the next long term writing team for NEW MUTANTS - they still have some space stories to tell. While Marvel want to bring these two high quality writers into more mainstream titles, sales for THANOS IMPERATIVE likely proved small but stable enough (more stable than many ongoing titles) that they don't want to yank the rug out from their space comics completely. However, Marvel doesn't have enough faith to sell two four issue mini series at once; thus, ANNIHILATORS is actually two series merged into one mammoth issue - hence the $4.99 cover price. This issue of ANNIHILATORS offers 62 pages of material; the 20 page main story featuring the titular characters, and a 22 page back up strip starring Rocket Raccoon and Groot. Please overlook the oddity of a back up comic having more content than the lead-in. Picking up right after THANOS IMPERATIVE: DEVASTATION, the latest assembly of space power houses is schooled by a new female character, Ikon, who is one of the cybernetic Spaceknights (the same race that the famous ROM was, a character lost to the red tape of a toy license). She proves that this roster, as powerful as they are, is handicapped because they all fear unleashing their power for fear of collateral damage (at least when present in a vital structure like Knowhere). One could argue that having a new character show up and immediately make an impression by thrashing a cast of long time, well known and powerful characters is the definition of a Mary Sue style character, but at this point Abnett and Lanning have the benefit of the doubt due to prior success. On the positive side, the writers dust off a long forgotten villain in Doctor Dredd, last seen in ROM #43, circa 1983, as a major antagonist here, in a manner that is very effective. The artwork for the lead in tale is by Tan Eng Huat (GHOST RIDER, PUNISHER), alongside inks by Victor Olazaba and colors by June Chung. While Huat hasn't always impressed this Examiner on GHOST RIDER, he manages to do well with all the alien landscapes and bizarre characters in a space title.

The stronger piece of work is the Rocket Raccoon strip by the same writers and drawn by Timothy Green II (ANNIHILATION CONQUEST - STAR LORD and an issue of IMMORTAL IRON FIST), who does a dazzling job. It is a hilarious bit of "where are they now" set up as Rocket has apparently quit the space hero game after the tragic end of the Guardians of the Galaxy to be the mail clerk for a soulless intergalactic corporation that is a parody of earthling office and cubicle life. When a wooden clown (!) is sent to kill him, the real mayhem begins. Yet under all of the jokes and action is a bit of genuine character pathos for Rocket that manages to actually be quite sad. A variant cover for the Rocket strip, which would have been the regular cover of a separate mini, is drawn by legendary Dark Horse creator, and former Marvel artist, Mike Mignola. At any rate, this is nearly two full length comics for less than five dollars - or akin to buying each comic for $2.50 (a price no Marvel comic has been since 2004). While the lead issue was actually not as exceptional as one might have expected, the Rocket story more than made up for it.

AVENGERS ACADEMY #10: Quicker than expected, although not as quick as Quicksilver (http://instantrimshot.com/), comes the latest issue of the best Avengers title that Marvel is currently publishing. The last issue came out a mere fortnight ago, and the title had been running a few weeks behind original schedule for several issues now. This issue is drawn by Sean Chen, so perhaps he was better able to handle a deadline than departing regular artist Mike McKone. In terms of the future, it appears that Chen and Tom Raney will share art chores for this title, at least until issue thirteen or fourteen. Scott Hanna and Jeromy Cox remain on inks and colors (respectively), and Christos Gage continues onward with his exceptional run featuring both old and new characters. In fact, the worst part about this issue is the baffling cover; while it features the regular cast as well as two guest stars (who each have one panel to themselves), it in no way reflects anything about the crux of the plot within. Dracula, Robocop, and Captain Planet (all licenses Marvel used to own for comics) could have also been included on the cover while they were at it. Covers are commonly drawn before issues are finished, however, this month's is quite bizarre. This might be an problem for a title that is struggling to hold onto selling over 24,000 copies.

Christos Gage sometimes utilizes straight-up cliffhangers that bridge one issue to the next, and other times he runs with long term subplots to breed the latest issue due to ramifications of prior events. Issue ten is more the latter. Every issue has often focused on one or two of the characters, both students and staff; this issue is ambitious and manages to focus on roughly three characters - students Hazmat and Veil, and Avengers Academy instructor, Speedball. Robbie Baldwin is an ex-New Warrior, and formerly the iron masked psycho hero Penance, and it has been about time that he got a proper issue's worth of focus. Robbie's friend and fellow ex-New Warrior Justice also gets more panel time than he often averages in several issues. One would think that two former teenage heroes who have both gone through legal falls from grace would have loads of potential to connect to some wayward new kids, but up until now the instructors who got most of the focus are Giant-Man and Tigra. Speedball's fall from grace was chronicled in CIVIL WAR and FRONTLINE in 2006, while Justice serving jail time for manslaughter ("accidentally" killing his abusive father in the middle of a beating) was handled in the 90's. This issue delves into Speedball's attempts to move past the events of Stamford, Connecticut that changed his life and the lives of so many other heroes. This is told in a way that it meshes well with parallel tales of Veil stressing over being kicked out of the Academy (due to events from two issues ago), and Hazmat coping with her status as being a "toxic" girl. When Pym figures out a way to give her a "day off" to have some fun, her aggressive demeanor washes off as she gets to enjoy being a kid again. There is an obligatory four page battle in the middle of the story, but it is mostly a character piece about three characters. Veil's subplot across the last several issues seems to be heading towards a dramatic climax next month with an effective cliffhanger. While many fans have been trying to figure out which cadets may turn out to be proper heroes, while others who may become villains, Veil is a character who wouldn't seem very obvious for the latter - which may be why she is the perfect choice.

Sean Chen's artwork is quite good, which shouldn't be a surprise for those who checked out his work in the past on IRON MAN, NOVA, or MIGHTY AVENGERS. Perhaps the only quibble is that he makes Speedball look quite buff, perhaps in an attempt to make a hero who is in his early twenties look like more of an elder to teenage students. While the villains that the characters square off against tie into Speedball's tragedy in Stamford, there is a case to be said that some higher profile villains might help. At any rate, the series' strength is in how Gage handles the characters tied in with incredible art and colors, and this issue continues that tradition. The next two issues promise a major "trial by fire" for the Academy as they take on one of the Avengers' most dangerous enemies.

At this point, while this series should reach a major milestone by remaining in print by issue fourteen, even making it to a sixteenth issue is not assured, which is a shame. The first trade collection of the first six issues is out on the shelves for those who have missed things up until now. AVENGERS ACADEMY continues to be one of Marvel's best new launches in recent years, and is actually a good "gateway" series for new or moderate fans if one knew how to properly market and deliver it.

HEROES FOR HIRE #4: What a surprise, another noteworthy comic book written by Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning this week. While the duo's first earth based Marvel work in years - the mini series IRON MAN/THOR - ended with a bit of a whimper, this relaunch of an old franchise has been of the sort of "can't miss an issue" quality that they achieved almost effortlessly with NOVA or GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY. Regular artist Brad Walker takes a month off, and Robert Atkins fills in on pencils, followed up by two inkers and two colorists (often a sign of a rush to meet deadline). Atkins does an exceptional fill in job for a title that is as defined by Walker's art as it is by the writers handling story. Unlike AVENGERS ACADEMY #10, this issue's cover is quite accurate - the focus is on Misty Knight, one of the character's few regular characters up to this point. The premise is that she is trying to "take it easy" by running the Heroes For Hire business from a home office under the handle of "Control" and funnels crime leads to various interested urban vigilantes (such as Moon Knight, Ghost Rider, Black Widow or Silver Sable). Her only stable "employee" is the mercenary Paladin, who suspects all isn't as it seems and has launched his own investigation. As the audience has known since the end of issue one, he is right - a long time Marvel villain has been controlling her since the start, pulling her strings and running the show from behind the scenes for some unknown purpose. This issue not only sees Misty match wits, and wills, against this threat, but skillfully wraps up a long series of subplots from prior works by different talents, such as SHADOWLAND: BLOOD ON THE STREETS and I AM AN AVENGER #1.

While the last few issues have offered some action movie antics with Marvel Universe twists, this is more of a psychological issue that offers another jaw dropping cliffhanger. Abnett and Lanning are raising the bar very high for themselves for a second arc, but they are definitely leading with their best foot forward - precisely as it should be.

THUNDERBOLTS #154: This issue focuses on the team member on the cover, the Man-Thing, in a done-in-one story by Jeff Parker and fill in artist Declan Shalvey (who drew a SHADOWLAND) tie in issue. Colors are by Frank Martin, who usually works with Kev Walker but handles Shalvey's art perfectly fine, too. While this story bridges from the events of last issue, it works for any point in this run. Luke Cage's federal bosses in the Thunderbolts program have gotten a bit concerned about him employing a literal swamp monster as transport and support, since there have been no end of deaths attributed to the monster. Before Man-Thing was "beaming" T-Bolts to missions, he was guardian of the "Nexus of Realities" in the Florida everglades; in this issue, that subplot comes to roost. If Jeff Parker has any flaw, it is that he has often relied more on having his team characters battle bizarre and/or eccentric sci-fi threats on a weekly basis (a "monster of the week" in so many ways) rather than having a long term antagonist. The upside is that it allows Parker more time to focus on his cast, and this issue is a perfectly enjoyable and acceptable Man-Thing issue. This is a tale that even reunites him with former supporting cast member Jennifer Kale, who hasn't been involved in a Man-Thing related story since QUASAR #50 (circa 1993), or a story period since a cameo in NEW AVENGERS. It is amusing how everyone who talks about Man-Thing's corrosive touch cannot simply say, "don't get scared, he'll burn you"; they must always issue the iconic credo, "whatever knows fear burns at the touch of the Man-Thing!" - perhaps it is courtesy. It is amazing to consider that Man-Thing actually debuted two months before DC's Swamp Thing did in the year of 1971. Given the mute nature of the monster, a spotlight issue was essential - much like it was good for Ghost to be the focus of an issue several months ago. While Man-Thing serves the role of "obligatory mute member" of Jeff Parker's team, which the robot M-11 used to fill in AGENTS OF ATLAS material, Parker is aware that he is a different character and handles him accordingly. Given that Jennifer Kale was last wearing belly shirts in WITCHES, it is strange to see Shalvey dress her in a superhero sorceress style head dress and cape from the Scarlet Witch collection. However, it all ties together into a solid story that intermingles the Thunderbolts with Man-Thing's roots in mystical adventures. Hopefully, it is a sign of development to come for Marvel's muck monster.
 
Da fug? Annihilators came out? It wasn't on the Diamond List, and I didn't see it at my shop. Well, that's crap.
 
Da fug? Annihilators came out? It wasn't on the Diamond List, and I didn't see it at my shop. Well, that's crap.

ANNIHILATORS #1 did indeed come out, at least in NY. If there was some Diamond shipping hiccup in other areas, I don't know about it. I know one hiccup occurred at the end of last year, and that resulted in an issue of DYNAMO 5: SINS OF THE FATHERS hitting shops in some states late.

It could have come because originally, ANNIHILATORS and ROCKET & GROOT were intended to be two separate comics, and the decision to merge them into one $5 title was done in the progress of completion. As such, the ANNIHILATORS story was only 20 pages; perhaps there was no time to wait for the art team to draw another 2 issues and have it ship in March.

Sometimes Diamond just doesn't have certain titles on their lists, but it came out. It's random, but, what do you expect of a monopoly with no competitors - eternal competence? Companies become monopolies strictly BECAUSE they can start skimping on fundamentals. ;)
 
First Wave #6 was a total letdown. I really hate books that introduce several plot threads, and then never resolve them. Why did Commissioner Dolan double-cross the Spirit? I don't know. With the exception of issues 1 and 2, we never see him again. What's the deal with Blackhawk, of whom we only hear through a radio speaker very briefly? Maybe I'm missing or forgetting something here, but what exactly was the big deal with Doc Savage's father? His death felt miniscule. And the ending felt like it was setting itself up for a sequel, which I also hate. Tell me a complete story and wrap up all the things you introduce. Honestly, it felt like this book could have been an issue or two longer, but given the delays that plagued the book, it's probably better that it's over. It's my understanding that DC is canceling the First Wave on-goings, The Spirit and Doc Savage, and this is perfectly fine. The Spirit sucks, as David Hine, with the exception of ONE issue, has no understanding at all how The Spirit works, even within the confines of the First Wave universe, as Azzarello's take on the character is still pure-Eisner. Doc Savage on the other hand, started off incredibly weak, improved slightly, and became a bit boring. J.G. Jones is taking over writing and art duties in the next issue or so, but I read that DC is canceling the book, despite work that is ready to be published. This means that I may not get to read Jason Starr's "First Wave Special" book, as Jason Starr also sucks, and if he doesn't understand how The Avenger or the First Wave universe as established by Azzarello works, I doubt he can handle The Spirit, Doc Savage and probably even Batman. As far as I'm concerned, I'm glad the title is going away. Outside of the main mini, the handling has been a total mess.

Witchfinder: Lost & Gone Forever #2 was a satisfying read, and further proof of why I think Mike Mignola and co. are the best creators working in comics. They don't try to reinvent the wheel. They just try to tell stories, and they do a damn good job at doing so. In this issue, we got to see, in a few pages, GORGEOUSLY rendered by John Severin(who in my opinion has never looked better), Sir Edward Grey's origin, tracking down and killing a werewolf lurking on the estate of the family he and his father work for. The plot thickens in dealing with the Heliopic Brotherhood of Ra, with a strange girl with a magic book and strange powers helping out Native Americans. Ulterior motives? Perhaps. The next two issues should be the exposition/strong action books, with the 5th issue being the action/come down book. I can't wait.
 
I was actually surprised that we made it to Friday and nobody launched this topic yet. What, was March 2nd really that dead a week in comics? Because I can tell you, it was a bigger week for me than next Wednesday will be. Is there some joke or dare I missed? At any rate, here is the B/T topic, with heavy spoilers.
I think the b/t topic shows how far the comic industry has fallen, really. When I was as Deathshead2, I remember seeing the B/T up on a Tuesday and then Weds night it would be several pages long, and by the next Monday almost double or three times that in pages.

Now...We're lucky to get a few posts of JH saying he didn't get his books, and people saying they liked a book. From what I can see, Dread, you're the only one left who really, reviews books anymore.

Man, I miss the old days of the Hype.
 
Da fug? Annihilators came out? It wasn't on the Diamond List, and I didn't see it at my shop. Well, that's crap.

Yeah, I don't think I saw Annihilators at my shop either. If it was, I'm mad I missed it. :cmad:
 
So it's Saturday and I got my comics... a lot of them it feels like. I actually overspent and my wife got mad but hey... I'm a man dangit! I'll BUY my comics and she'll take it! (until next week when the extra money comes out of next week's comics :( ) She was actually pretty understanding because half to most of them were left overs from what I couldn't afford last week. And not knowing what's new and what's from last week I'll just do a bunch of reviews. Note: I put back the Age of X issues again. I'll definately get them next week though.

So I'll do some reviews:

Green Lantern 63 - This is the only DC book I bought this week. The New Guardians make their way to Ryutt where they find the Book of the Black and learn some ancient history of the Guardians. They learn that they all wore White at one time and that Krona was the first to embrace emotion. He became a rebel and was pursued by the Manhunters due to it and he solemnly reprogramed them to kill all of Ryutt's life (leading to Atrocitus being the last). He fought them with the power of the Green, which the Guardians apparently first learn of it. In the end there's also another chpater of the Book of Black that predicts of the 4 Earth Green Lanterns "There will only be 3." It's a pretty cryptic ending having to do with the War of the Green Lanterns, which comes next. My guess is that Guy goes Red Lantern but more controled like Atrocitus leading into the new Red Lanterns book, staring him, Atrocitus, Bleez, and Dex-Starr (among others of less mind). That's my guess.

Heroes for Hire 4 - I'm disappointed that this issue isn't following up with last issue's ending of Paladin "hiring" Iron Fist to figure out what's going on with Misty. Instead we get Misty's story and what's going on with her. It leads to her freeing her mind from the Puppet Master and running into a Puppet Master controlled Punisher. We also learn that Puppet Master is apparently working for someone else, though we aren't shown who.

Still, it was a good issue and I'm eager to see this Puppet Master plot moved along. I don't really care for him as a villain so that portion of the story isn't particularly intriguing to me. I want to get to more Iron Fist/Misty/Phantom Baby plotlines.

Secret Warriors 25 - 4 issues left for this title and I'm sticking with it until the end but this issue annoyed me some. First off, the biggest pull for me is Quake's team, and they're disfunct and have been nowhere to be seen for two issues now. This issue shows a lot of the history of the group containing Nick and Jake Fury, Baron Strucker, Shoji Soma (of the Hand), the dude who formed the Leviathan group, and others. However, it's starting to look like this deep history is going to tie into Hickman's SHIELD series. I could be wrong, as I didn't read it, but just by skimming and such there were things that looked familiar from what I saw in that story. If that's the case then I feel like I missed out on some stuff and I hate that. If something's going to tie into another ongoing, make it known!

Anyhow, I've enjoyed this story so far and am eager to see how it all ends. I'm hoping Quake's crew shows up in the end to help save the day as some backplan of Nick's but we'll see. The story is starting to drag a bit and I'm glad it's finally wrapping up.

Annihilators 1 - This was only okay for me. I feel the magic of the cosmic universe has been the relatable characters of Nova and Star Lord. This main story lacks that for all save Quasar. It helps being from his point of view but it doesn't dig in too deep. I don't really care about the Space Knights, the Dire Wraiths, or this Doctor Dredd guy... but with Abnett and Lanning's quality of writing I'm willing to be impressed. This issue however, it was just an okay set up. I'm more eager for next issue.

As for the Rocket and Groot story that's the "back up," I liked it a lot more than the Annihilator's story. Rocket's much more relatable and likable and, while goofy, the story is also just good. There's subtle jokes hidden here and there all throughout the story. My favorite is the very last page. Groot imprisoned on a plent of trees (his home world) being kept guard by... robotic woodpeckers! I LOVE IT! Good story and most likely I'm going to enjoy this story better than Annihilators but the end).

Power Man & Iron Fist 2 - I thought this was good but it's not fantastic or anything. The story is fun and I'm actually liking the villains of this story better than in the Shadowland plot. I particularly like the Pagliacci the Harlequin. And help me out here... is Power Man supposed to be black or hispanic? He was very hispanic in the Shadowland mini but he comes accross as black here. It really shouldn't be difficult to differenciate here.

X-Factor 216 - I picked up issues 215 and 216 together since I was behind an issue and I enjoyed them. This issue was good because I like seeing J.J. Jameson mixing up with people other than Spider-Man. I liked the little cameo of Spider-Man as well, especially when he was stuck to the door and the people looking for him open the door with him stuck on it, look around, and then go back in, having not seen him stuck to the other side of it.

I feel that David tried to be funny a few times that ultimately fell flat, like the whole internet troll thing. There were some humors lines here and there though. I'm sticking with this book for the characters moreso than the plot of late but this new arc looks more promising than the Asgard one that just finished.

Avengers Academy 10 - This is the issue I put back and then picked back up again about 20 times. I decided to not get it but forgot to put it back on the shelf so it ended up being bought and read anyhow. It was good, not great, but a decent read. I like Chen's art typically but wasn't impressed here (particuarly his Speedball an Stryker). It's good to FINALLY get some focus on Speedball but even dealing with the Stamford thing and I guess the cutting thing as well, I still kinda feel like it fell flat. I don't know why because the plot seems good but when the book was finished I was just kinda bored with that portion of it. I did like the image of him standing before Stamford's memorial though. I thought that was good.

I liked the Hazmat plot more though I thought the ending was a bit crappy. She has a chance to occassionally get out of that suit and be normal with Leech but passes it up now so that she's always available for battle, even in off days. I guess it's somewhat responsible but it's not at all believable. I don't know... it just kinda took away from it for me.

So yeah, I read the issue and liked it but I don't know. I have no interest really in the next two issues but AM interested in the prom dance plot thing coming up. So I guess I'll just decide as each issue comes out if this book is dropped yet or not. It's definately bottom on the chopping block though.


Oh, and speaking of cuts... I'm still working on that. I've come to the official decision (and I'm oddly sound with it) that I am dropping (adjectiveless) Avengers and Secret Avengers... and I'm also not finishing Who Is Jake Ellis?

I've been fairly disappointed with both Avenger titles, though adjectiveless has really picked up with this recent arc, and with as little interest as I have in Fear Itself I just don't really feel compelled to have a complete Avengers read. All the characters I like most (save Spider-Woman) are in New Avengers, which is the best Avenger book out there anyway, so I still get that portion of what I like. Secret Avengers I debated on dropping because there's potential of it getting better when the new writer comes on board but I need to drop stuff so it's dropped. I've shifted the first 4 issues over to my Cosmic comics section and the second arc over to the Iron Fist section (due to the Prince of Orphans) and even those might be sold eventually. After I did that I feel okay with my decision and just wish Beast would head back over to X-Men.

As for Who Is Jake Ellis? I'm only an issue into it and may get the back issues another day, but for now it's $3 saved.

So my drop list this far:

Avengers
Secret Avengers
Who Is Jake Ellis? (mini)
Thunderbolts
Black Terror (because it ended)

X-23 and Academy X are on the cutting block at the moment. Echo ends in 2 issues and Secret Warriors ends in 3. So the cuts are happening! I'm also going to start cutting back on the minis, as I didn't realize how many I actually buy in a month!
 
THUNDERBOLTS #154: This issue focuses on the team member on the cover, the Man-Thing, in a done-in-one story by Jeff Parker and fill in artist Declan Shalvey (who drew a SHADOWLAND) tie in issue. Colors are by Frank Martin, who usually works with Kev Walker but handles Shalvey's art perfectly fine, too. While this story bridges from the events of last issue, it works for any point in this run. Luke Cage's federal bosses in the Thunderbolts program have gotten a bit concerned about him employing a literal swamp monster as transport and support, since there have been no end of deaths attributed to the monster. Before Man-Thing was "beaming" T-Bolts to missions, he was guardian of the "Nexus of Realities" in the Florida everglades; in this issue, that subplot comes to roost. If Jeff Parker has any flaw, it is that he has often relied more on having his team characters battle bizarre and/or eccentric sci-fi threats on a weekly basis (a "monster of the week" in so many ways) rather than having a long term antagonist. The upside is that it allows Parker more time to focus on his cast, and this issue is a perfectly enjoyable and acceptable Man-Thing issue. This is a tale that even reunites him with former supporting cast member Jennifer Kale, who hasn't been involved in a Man-Thing related story since QUASAR #50 (circa 1993), or a story period since a cameo in NEW AVENGERS. It is amusing how everyone who talks about Man-Thing's corrosive touch cannot simply say, "don't get scared, he'll burn you"; they must always issue the iconic credo, "whatever knows fear burns at the touch of the Man-Thing!" - perhaps it is courtesy. It is amazing to consider that Man-Thing actually debuted two months before DC's Swamp Thing did in the year of 1971. Given the mute nature of the monster, a spotlight issue was essential - much like it was good for Ghost to be the focus of an issue several months ago. While Man-Thing serves the role of "obligatory mute member" of Jeff Parker's team, which the robot M-11 used to fill in AGENTS OF ATLAS material, Parker is aware that he is a different character and handles him accordingly. Given that Jennifer Kale was last wearing belly shirts in WITCHES, it is strange to see Shalvey dress her in a superhero sorceress style head dress and cape from the Scarlet Witch collection. However, it all ties together into a solid story that intermingles the Thunderbolts with Man-Thing's roots in mystical adventures. Hopefully, it is a sign of development to come for Marvel's muck monster.

Good to see Kale appear again. It was actually just two years ago that she and Man-Thing last teamed up, in "Marvel Zombies 4". Kale was part of Morbius's new Midnight Sons team (along with Werewolf by Night and Daimon Hellstrom), who chased Headpool and Simon Garth to an island where they ended up fighting the Hood and some horror-themed villains. She summoned Man-Thing to protect her from Dormammu about halfway through, and he stuck around and squared off with Garth and the other zombies.

I was actually really disappointed that they didn't keep that team together. Fred Van Lente hadn't quite turned into the "It" boy yet, and sales were just decent, I believe, but it was a great read.
 
I got Annihilators. Pretty good. Wendell's gonna annoy me if he keeps whimpering, though.
 
I think the b/t topic shows how far the comic industry has fallen, really. When I was as Deathshead2, I remember seeing the B/T up on a Tuesday and then Weds night it would be several pages long, and by the next Monday almost double or three times that in pages.

Now...We're lucky to get a few posts of JH saying he didn't get his books, and people saying they liked a book. From what I can see, Dread, you're the only one left who really, reviews books anymore.

Man, I miss the old days of the Hype.

Yeah I've really noticed this too. The comics section of the hype has been dying out considerably during the past couple years, barely anybody posts in this section anymore....
 
I'd love to still be reviewing books, but now that I'm actually making them I've got less time to do what I used to. It's ironic that being IN the industry leaves so little time to be a FAN of the industry...
 
Well, in all seriousness, it kind of basically died out when PhotoJones got banned. I mean, honestly, like 75% of the discussion since I joined the hype was him (so roughly four years ago), mostly going on off topic conversations with other users. Outside a few others, the actual amount of the reviewing remains about the same from what I remember back then. I can't speak for before that, obviously.
 
Haha, yeah, I went on a lot of those with him. Good times.

Anyway, this week I didn't review anything 'cause I was busy playing Beyond Good & Evil HD every waking moment.
 
Incognito: Bad Influences #4 was hands-down the best chapter of the mini so far. The first three were pretty enjoyable but moved the story along a bit too slowly, especially compared to the other Brubaker/Philips books, which were kind of slow, but in a deliberate way that was more gripping. This one gave more insight into Zack Overkill's character than we've seen since the first series, and maybe even more. I especially liked his bizarre hallucinogenic scenes. Kind of reminded me of Sin City: Hell and Back.

5 Ronin #1 (Wolverine) was alright. I liked the story's ending, but it felt like not much happened toward the beginning, and I didn't feel much emotional involvement with the characters. The dialogue was good though, and the art was serviceable. Hopefully next week's Hulk issue makes more out of a good concept.
 
5 Ronin #1 (Wolverine) was alright. I liked the story's ending, but it felt like not much happened toward the beginning, and I didn't feel much emotional involvement with the characters. The dialogue was good though, and the art was serviceable. Hopefully next week's Hulk issue makes more out of a good concept.
I used to buy anything with Wolverine but I've stopped doing that now that book prices are so high. Looks like it was just as well that I missed this one.
 
I think the b/t topic shows how far the comic industry has fallen, really. When I was as Deathshead2, I remember seeing the B/T up on a Tuesday and then Weds night it would be several pages long, and by the next Monday almost double or three times that in pages.

Now...We're lucky to get a few posts of JH saying he didn't get his books, and people saying they liked a book. From what I can see, Dread, you're the only one left who really, reviews books anymore.

Man, I miss the old days of the Hype.

Hey, what're Crimson Mist and JewishHobbit, chopped liver? Most weeks Tron Bonne and TheCorpulent1 make reviews, just this week seems to have been a perfect storm. Pheadrus' review efforts are often Herculean. He literally reviews damn near every comic at the end of the year, and he must be a gazillionare to afford the pull list he has.

Yeah, I don't think I saw Annihilators at my shop either. If it was, I'm mad I missed it. :cmad:

It seems a few people missed it. I don't know whether this was a Diamond hiccup or shops under ordering it.

Good to see Kale appear again. It was actually just two years ago that she and Man-Thing last teamed up, in "Marvel Zombies 4". Kale was part of Morbius's new Midnight Sons team (along with Werewolf by Night and Daimon Hellstrom), who chased Headpool and Simon Garth to an island where they ended up fighting the Hood and some horror-themed villains. She summoned Man-Thing to protect her from Dormammu about halfway through, and he stuck around and squared off with Garth and the other zombies.

I was actually really disappointed that they didn't keep that team together. Fred Van Lente hadn't quite turned into the "It" boy yet, and sales were just decent, I believe, but it was a great read.

I actually never liked the MARVEL ZOMBIES stuff, so I didn't read Fred Van Lente's installments. I know from Handbooks he played with some of the Initiative teams down south for one supernatural group you mentioned. It is good, then, that THUNDERBOLTS seemed to feed off that. Plus, Kale has been connected to Man-Thing forever; she once literally had a psychic connection to him. I did like the story.

I got Annihilators. Pretty good. Wendell's gonna annoy me if he keeps whimpering, though.

Nova did leave big shoes to fill. The irony is Nova started out looking up to Quasar as the big space hero and Avenger, and now these days it is reversed. Of course, aside for dying and lending his power to a dying Nova, Wendell hasn't done very much of importance in a long time.

I thought the Rocket story was stronger, though, and I guess I wasn't alone.

I'd love to still be reviewing books, but now that I'm actually making them I've got less time to do what I used to. It's ironic that being IN the industry leaves so little time to be a FAN of the industry...

I'd love to have that problem, working in the industry. I'd settle for making minimum wage at a comic book shop. :up:
 
I usually don't pay attention to "Marvel Zombies" stuff, but I read 4 because it had Morbius in it (I have fond memories of watching him team up with Spider-Man on Saturday mornings in the 90s). It was the least "Marvel Zombies" of all of them, actually.

It dealt with the aftermath of 3, which had The Zombie, an obscure Marvel horror character from the 70s escaping from ARMOR (the SHIELD branch focusing on extradimensional threats, apparently) along with the severed, but still living head of the zombie universe's Deadpool. 4 was about Morbius, who was a ranking agent of ARMOR, putting a team together to hunt them down. They ended up in an island in the Caribbean where Headpool had been caught by Black Talon, another obscure old horror character. He tried to sell the head to the Hood, who was in turn pushed into retrieving it by Dormammu (back when that was who was giving him his mojo). Naturally, Zombie and Headpool escaped, there was a big outbreak of the zombie plague on this island, and lots of delightful zombie-killing happened, only this time they were being killed by a werewolf, a demon and a plant monster (who may very well have walked into a bar once the adventure ended).

There were suggestions that the team might stay together after, and I was holding out for a new series (at least another mini) for a while, but it never really happened. The only references for a while came in the form of Headpool meeting the 616 Deadpool (and thus begatting "Merc With a Mouth" and "Deadpool Corps"). There also ended up being a brief thing in "Amazing Spider-Man", in an issue FVL wrote, where Morbius got some of Spidey's blood to treat Werewolf by Night (who had been bitten during the mini, and sadly became Zombie by Day).
 
Marvel Zombies has become like any other horror franchise: far diluted from the formula that made it appealing in the first place through unnecessarily numerous sequels and spin-offs in name only.

Ultimate FF was good because not only was it first, but it was a clever twist: introducing the zombies as the "616" counterparts.

1 & 2 were nicely crafted stories, giving people more background and a continuation as they were curious and craving more. They also had a dark humor about them that made them more palatable than if they were just standard zombie fare. Although the whole "empowered by Galactus" thing was a bit silly.

I dare say the AoD crossover was not only the last good part, but was also the best part. These two franchises were perfectly interwoven together. It had the humor that the regular AoD comic lacked for far too long into its run, plus given Bruce's then two-forays into the Marvel-verse via the Spidey movies and games, it also had that extra coolness factor thrown in to see him throwing down with Marvel characters. Granted, since it took place between minis he couldn't be all that effectual, but they gave him enough sufficient cannon fodder to keep it from being dull.

3 & 4 started to deviate the most from the concept, and everything else after basically just shouldn't have been. This is the epitome of beating a dead horse. The first time was cute and fun. The second time was welcoming back an old friend. The third time it was just time to go home. Hell, 5 wasn't even tied into the SAME zombie plague except as a plot point, and now Supreme is ANOTHER completely different plague.

Okay, we get it...Marvel heroes as zombies is cool. Move on and let Suydnam enjoy selling his lovely cover prints at cons in peace.
 
4 would have been fine if it wasn't given the "MZ" tag. Like you said, it barely had anything to do with the main series.
 
I wish I knew big words to write decent reviews... :o
 
HEY! I survived another Emerald City Comic Con. I think I FINALLY have figured out a good system for getting my books signed; but, I'll talk about that and the Con in the Offical Comic Con Thread when I get some time. (Gonna head out to Applebee's soon. Gotta get there before 1/2 price appetizers are over.) I will say that I haven't gotten a count yet; but, I did get over 1,000 of my comics signed in the three days the convention was going. I should be back doing some reviews this week. I did read a few comics this week; but, I doubt I'll get anything significant up in this thread.
 
I did want to say that I don't think the lack of people posting on the Bought/Thought thread necessarily has anything to do with the state of the comic business. I believe quite a few things have contributed to The Hype getting less traffic, and comic buying has very little to do with it.

1) The Hype lost a ton of people during that time when just getting on the sight and posting something took forever. It's much better now; but, too often I'd write up a post, and when I hit SEND, it would disappear, because I could not get back on the boards for a good 30 minutes. Nothing will make a mad exodus like not being able to get the service you want and expect.

2) I know the Mods thought they were improving things by relegating various threads into certain areas on these boards; but, popular threads quickly died when they were transported to other message boards. (I always think of that thread that everyone voted who would win in a fight between two characters.)

3) Many times, things become popular for a while, then people move on to other boards or different things. You can't judge something by when it was most popular, getting amazing numbers. (I talked to quite a few artists/writers this past weekend who would tell me the amazing amount of numbers certain comics they wrote did in the 90's, telling the person next to them, "Can you believe this comic sold over 250,000 units??!!??") Everything is relative. Plus, the internet is extremely fickle. Sights get popular, and then they drop off.

4) Like someone mentioned, certain people get banned...and, those people actually contributed quite a bit to the threads. That doesn't mean the Mods didn't have a good reason to do it; but, people like the idea that they should have free reign to voice their opinions. (I know that long ago I'd try and give my reviews on the Bought/Thought thread, and I'd be insulted at times for stating something I felt that was opposed to another person's viewpoint. So, I stopped for a long while. That doesn't happen any more, which is also kind of nice. We might not agree on certain comics; but, for the most part, we keep it friendly.)
 

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