Heck, Hypertime probably has even
less influence on the current DCU than the first Crisis did. And that's saying a lot.
photojones2 said:
my introduction to batman (comic wise) was "year one". loved it. dkr, dksa...loved them. too bad they take place in there own universe, which is not canon.
now you'll say, "you're going to take 3 batman stories out of the thousands that are out there and make a case for batman being confusing??"
yes. these are 3 of the most popular storylines, and they are what a lot of people think of when they think of batman. there are others, to be sure.
that's when i kinda fell out of dc.
Tell that to the people who liked every single "The End" book that Marvel has ever published, which also take place in alternate futures that will never actually happen. Incidentally, I love how your ultimate argument for why you fell out of DC has nothing whatsoever to do with the multiverse at all. Miller's Dark Knight stories were published as an out-of-continuity story in the first place, and it began even before Crisis on Infinite Earths! Out-of-continuity, stand-alone stories are absolutely nothing new to
either company.
photojones2 said:
i think the problem here is this (read the following slowly, LittleWilly, so you can understand it):
everytime i explain my views on the dcu, you come back to counter it with a comparison to the marvel universe, saying they're alike.
instead of accepting that PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT, and people come away from all kinds of life's experiences with DIFFERENT OUTLOOKS, you would have us believe that the only outlook or viewpoint that's worth a damn is your own.
what you could do, the next time someone talk about an experience (even something as trivial as reading comic books), that differs from your own, you could say, "well, i see what you're saying, but i think otherwise".
instead of "no, you are wrong".
do you see what i'm saying? can i make it any clearer?
If I think I'm right, I'm going to tell you exactly why I think I'm right. And if I think you're wrong, I'm going to tell you exactly why I think you're wrong. That's all I've been doing here.
There's such a thing as personal taste, and then there's such a thing as just flat-out getting the facts wrong or spreading inaccurate information. People do have different tastes. People do like different things. Marvel and DC do have their differences, which is why I sometimes prefer one over the other too. But the reasons you've been giving for preferring one over the other are either traits that both universes share or ones that currently affect neither. When I, and others, call you out on this, your responses have invariably been to either drag up more examples of the same thing, or a simple "Whatever, it just is." You spout a bunch of criticisms, and they either don't hold up under scrutiny or can't be backed up. To be completely blunt about it, you sound like the typical, model Marvel Zombie.
Like the gal said, I'm not saying that I care. I'm just saying that I'm saying.
photojones2 said:
and while i'm at it, have you actually read the other posts since this started?
if so you'll see that people agree with you, but do so without coming off like an asshat. people have also posted remarks ABOUT you acting like an asshat. and people have posted comments that in agreement to mine. does that have ANY effect on you??
Yes, it tells me I'm probably being meaner than I should be. It doesn't tell me that I'm wrong.
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, and welcome back to the hype.
