BOUGHT/THOUGHT for Wednesday, February 28th

While I can agree with the storytelling perspective on the previous two issues of their run, this issue was MUCH better. 844 and 845 made for a jarring read due to a lack of scene transitions. 846 reads much more smoothly. Also, Kubert's obviously film-inspired paneling in some scenes works better in this issue, too.


After the last issue I was going to sit the rest out, but maybe I'll pick up this one to see if I start to like it more.

I just hope there is no spinning the world on it's axis to reverse time, or lifting a continent worth of Kryptonite by the end of the arc.:whatever:
 
civil war: frontline #11 - not a bad end to this series. definitely a lot less action packed than the main mini, but at times it was more interesting. unlike the past issues, this one features only one storyline; the ben/sally one. it also sets up the possibility of future tales involving this pair, as they've both quit their jobs at the bugle and opened up their own paper instead. it appears to be a sort of "free alternative weekly" that most major cities have (here in cincinnati, it's called "citybeat"), and they name it "frontlines".

set after the big finale of cw #7, ben urich and sally floyd go to interview captain america in his cell. basically, what starts as an honest interview about cap's side of the story, quickly turns into a lecture by sally about how disconnected cap is to what america is today. that half of the story ends with floyd asking cap what he's going to do to repair the damage he's done.

part two involves their "interview" with stark. nervous, sally and ben proceed to break down the events of the past 10 issues, and piece it together in front of stark, claiming that he is the traitor to his side. what it boils down to is that tony was the one who "controlled" norman's actions against the atlantian delegate. the reasons behind this were because - and this is the kicker to the whole event - in order for this registration act to pass, tony had to give people a reason to fear the alternative.

he knew that the act would be unpopular with both the superhero community as well as the general population. but he also had the foresight to realize that it was the right thing to do; that it was the safe thing to do. and so, to insure it's enactment, he set into motion the civil war.

tony doesn't deny any of this, and instead demands ben and sally leave his office. the issue and the series end with an image of an upset and ashamed tony stark.

it's an interesting and age old debate. do the ends justify the means? guess we'll find out soon enough.

wolverine #51 - while not nearly as fun as last issue, the second in loeb's run isn't bad. i will say that it seemed rather short, and a bit like filler.

that said, i REALLY like loeb's flashback to the tabitha/psylocke/creed storyline that happened during the 90's in uncanny x-men. it was a nice little continuity reference. :up:

again, the issue seemed short, and there's not much to talk about. it starts with more of logan's memories/visions of the lupine. jump to logan waking up chained atop the blackbird, with creed in the pilot's chair. tying together the fact that the last thing he remembers is him popping a claw in creed's brain (AND having his heart ripped out courtesy of creed), along with the fact that creed wouldn't have time to gather him and the jet all before logan healed, logan assumes creed's either working for someone, or someone's helping him. which brings them to fight, crash the plane, fight some more, and then storm shows up to break it up. to be continued.

the art's still not my cup of tea, and again it seemed like filler to me, but i'll stick around for the next issue at the very least. loeb's never let me down before.


i also bought iron man #15 and daredevil #94, but i haven't gotten around to them yet.
 
Why don't people just post after they've read ALL of their comics? I can't even come on the SHH on Wednesdays until I've read my comics first, just because I know things might get ruined.
 
Why don't people just post after they've read ALL of their comics? I can't even come on the SHH on Wednesdays until I've read my comics first, just because I know things might get ruined.

i had a break at work to read a couple comics, browsed the hype to see what others had to say and typed up my own reviews.

sheesh. :whatever:
 
civil war: frontline #11 - not a bad end to this series. definitely a lot less action packed than the main mini, but at times it was more interesting. unlike the past issues, this one features only one storyline; the ben/sally one. it also sets up the possibility of future tales involving this pair, as they've both quit their jobs at the bugle and opened up their own paper instead. it appears to be a sort of "free alternative weekly" that most major cities have (here in cincinnati, it's called "citybeat"), and they name it "frontlines".

set after the big finale of cw #7, ben urich and sally floyd go to interview captain america in his cell. basically, what starts as an honest interview about cap's side of the story, quickly turns into a lecture by sally about how disconnected cap is to what america is today. that half of the story ends with floyd asking cap what he's going to do to repair the damage he's done.

part two involves their "interview" with stark. nervous, sally and ben proceed to break down the events of the past 10 issues, and piece it together in front of stark, claiming that he is the traitor to his side. what it boils down to is that tony was the one who "controlled" norman's actions against the atlantian delegate. the reasons behind this were because - and this is the kicker to the whole event - in order for this registration act to pass, tony had to give people a reason to fear the alternative.

he knew that the act would be unpopular with both the superhero community as well as the general population. but he also had the foresight to realize that it was the right thing to do; that it was the safe thing to do. and so, to insure it's enactment, he set into motion the civil war.

tony doesn't deny any of this, and instead demands ben and sally leave his office. the issue and the series end with an image of an upset and ashamed tony stark.

it's an interesting and age old debate. do the ends justify the means? guess we'll find out soon enough.
Seriously that is just plain ******ed and ignores a major point of Civil War: The vast majority of the people supported the SHRA.
 
Hahaha, I was laughing when Sobek ****ed up Osiris. It was so awesome.

I mean, I liked him when he was all nice and innocent and timid, but he's just like CHOMP all over him. So awesome. Not to mention that Osiris was a ***** and all he did was whine and cry about everything.
 
iron man #15 - hell yeah, dum dum dugan's alive and well! this just drives home the idea that wolverine: origins doesn't count for ****. **** you daniel way.

anyway, on with the show.

a month into being the director of shield, tony's implemented a suggestion box, a daycare facility (only when the helicarrier's docked), and institued casual friday; all to dugan's dismay. he contacts kooning, the secretary of defense at the pentagon, and relay's the past month's activites. his main gripe seems to be that stark runs shield like one of his companies. that and he's too "hands on". meaning that stark's mission plans and battle tactics usually require him to be play a role that's a little too important. dugan's point is that in the military, a plan should never rely on one man, but instead the whole unit. what if tony was to fall in the field? what then?

tony's tactics aside, kooning reminds dugan that in the past month they've had 17 code-red missions, and they've all been successful with zero casualties. to boot, shield's approval rating is at an all time high, and stark has managed to cut their costs considerably.

there's also a brief scene with a chinese man locked in a prison, which from solicits, we've come to know is of course the mandarin.

i should also point out that this is my first iron man issue in a loooong time, but i enjoyed it. while civil war wasn't perfect, it's conclusion does set up the marvel universe with some interesting ideas to explore, and i picked this up on a whim. de la torre's art is MUCH better than it was on ms. marvel, but i think the colorist (dean white) has a lot to do with that. the knauf's script was clever, but i'm going to be a little biased...i mean, the protanganist for this issue was dum dum for ****'s sake! i'll definitely be picking up the rest of the arc, as well as maybe some back issues.


next up, daredevil #94...
 
Why don't people just post after they've read ALL of their comics? I can't even come on the SHH on Wednesdays until I've read my comics first, just because I know things might get ruined.

The problem is that many times someone will start a bought/thought thread, and it takes a bit of time to write all your thoughts down. So, after they finish, they discover someone already started one, and now you have two Bought/Thought threads. (I guess ideally you should read your comics, start a thread saying "thoughts to come soon," then start typing. But, it does seem like people equate starting a Bought/Thought thread or a Release Thread to getting to have sex. Or, maybe they haven't had sex yet, and they don't realize starting a thread really isn't that big of a joy compared to other things in life.)


Personally, I find it much more fun to see people biatch and complain about the threads. It brings me joy to see grown men act like children on such a trivial thing.
 
Now I'm wondering who has the highest post count but has never started a thread on the Hype ever.
 
civil war: frontline #11 - not a bad end to this series. definitely a lot less action packed than the main mini, but at times it was more interesting. unlike the past issues, this one features only one storyline; the ben/sally one. it also sets up the possibility of future tales involving this pair

Marvel have already announced that there's going to bea frontline series for every event for the forseeable future. (at least until the sales start to tank)
 
Can't get my books until Friday,damn midterms.
 
Runaways 24:

I'm really going to miss this book. It was on time, dialogue(wtf is firefox telling me this is spelled wrong) was perfect for the characters and time of the book, and the art was top notch. The story is easily one of the best in recent years. As for the last issue.

I think they ended the story on a good note, and left enough for Whedon to work with. I still don't like the inker for the upcoming story, but thats besides the point. Molly's comments through out the issue were priceless. Fast ball special was hilarious. Seeing Alex at the end shows hope of his return, and if he doesn't return, it gives us some closure. To me at least. I felt relieved to see that wasn't trying to be evil, just make his father proud. And even after that, tried to gain some redemption.
 
Moment of the Week:

Bruce Wayne being chosen by the Sinestro Corps for his ability to instill fear. AWESOME MOMENT. I never saw that coming.

Flash - wow, time to drop the book. Too bad, too. I LOVED John's run.

Justice was great as usual. Elongated man had a great moment.

Runaways was amazing. GREAT end.

52 was meh.

Wolverine was pretty good. The art is brilliant.

Green Lantern was my pick of the week.
 
Was a bit of a heavy week for me; I'd been spoiled with some weeks where I only got 4-6 books. This week was 9 and that included two books that were almost $4. Quality wise I'd say this was a better week than the last, and FRONTLINE #11 actually sought to make more sense of the mess of CW, even while admittedly it added to it (Jenkins was no fan of making the Pro SHRA look good either).

I have a bit of an anti-Marvel rant coming, but as it has nothing to do with the actual issues, I'll stick it here. If you don't care, skip it. I'll even ad tags so it doesn't stretch the topic.

It pertains to the first thing I looked at, the free MARVEL PREVIEW for AVENGERS: THE INITITATIVE. Back in 2006, in interviews with Newsarama and maybe WIZARD, Joe Q "assured" us that 2007 had no "big event", that there would be ramifications to CW but they would be focusing on smaller stuff, giving us a breather. Well, look at the back of this PREVIEW and add up all the chapters on this checklist for this "post event event". Not including FRONTLINE, the T-bolts reprint and the Poster Book, it clocks at 57-58, and I was counting fast. Much like CIVIL WAR, more chapters than states in the Union. Throw in WORLD WAR HULK which will happen concurrently and even by Joe Q's modest estimate of being "half of HOM" means we can expect a good 25 or so chapters, enough to make MAXIMUM CARNAGE look like a hiccup (not even DISASSEMBLED got that bad). It reminds me of the "ad" fiasco; one year Joe Q "assures" us of one thing and then goes back on it the next.

Now, I am sure some will say, that is merely the cost of doing business. All corporate bigwigs decieve their customers, right down to the ads. Some will also say, plans changed since he did interviews in 2006 to the dawn of 2007, seeing that CW helped expand Marvel's comic sales by 22% from 2005 (the rest of their profits fell as they redid merchandise deals, but their actual comic sales saw a jump). But my point is, how can he be expected to be taken for his word when we can very easily find out that his word is as changeable as Hulkling's form? All CEO's lie, just poor Joe just ain't good at not geting caught.

Considering the ending of CW was merely a prelude into THE INITATIVE, we now are living in the age of the perpetual crossover again, where events last beyond "the summer" and stretch into entire YEARS worth of stories. DC, despite starting this trend, at least has given fans a break between IC and WW3, not counting 52. OYL was over quick and all their books were in a de-facto status quo for a while. Of course, the last time they actually outsold Marvel was a IC month (around when issue #6 or #7 shipped I believe), so that may also be why they're following suit.

What should Joe Q do in the future? Level with us because it's better to get a hostile response to honesty than a lie, because at least you can claim moral highground. Or, simply say, NO COMMENT if you are unsure. It's no secret that Joe Q is not the best at interviews, as many of us aren't. Just many of us are not an EIC in charge of a company. If the fans catch wind that anything the EIC says isn't worth the print it's typed on, then Marvel may eventually lose their newfound desire to stoke the fans for sales. I for one tire of being jerked around. One month it's "we'll never have 20+ ads in a book again", and a year later it's "well, the checks are already written, eat it suckers!" Before it was "no big event for 2007", now it is "technically that is true because CW NEVER ENDED!" I would also caution that the age of the perpetual crossover helped bring on the collapse of 1994, so I would tred carefully. Lord knows I'll be more conservative with my INITIATIVE purchases and am not interested in WWH. Can't we get a break? Or does Marvel care nothing for the hardcore fan who plucks down $50 a week, aside for, "how can we get it to $55 a week?" It is the height of hypocrisy to publish comics that lambaste "big business" for shady morals while Marvel of course plays by the same rules. It reminds me of Major League Sports franchises that care nothing for the rising costs of home games when coupled with parking, snacks, etc, only what more can they bleed. There's naturally a desire for profits, but you don't always have to sell out ALL integrity, and when you do, cover your arse better so we don't know about it. Sheesh.

My bought/thought, as soon as I type it, will have reviews of:

52 WEEK #43
BLUE BEETLE #12
JLA CLASSIFIED #35
JUSTICE #10
FRESHMEN II #3
FRONTLINE #11
DR. STRANGE: OATH #5
THE ETERNALS #7
RUNAWAYS #24


I am typing as you read this. Just wanted to seperate the rant from the reviews.
 
Civil War: Front Line #11: The secondary limited series concludes with our intrepid reporters meeting with Captain America and Iron Man, and explaining the whole plot of this series.

Captain America: This starts out as an interview to ask him to explain his side of the argument, but ends up having Sally scream at him for being out of touch with America. She tells him that since he has no idea what Myspace, Youtube, etc. is, he really has no connection to the real America, just the ideals in his head and the world he came from. There's some foundation to this; Cap really has no connection with the United States of the 21st century; they revealed his secret identity a couple of years ago, but it didn't affect his status in the least, because he has no supporting cast beyond Sharon Carter and other heroes.

Iron Man: It turns out that Iron Man was behind the whole Atlantis/Norman Osborne conspiracy, in order to provoke a "13 Days" type scenario and mobilize heroes behind his initiative, without actually leading to actual hostilities. So, to summarize, Tony is responsible for killing all those Atlanteans, injuring Wonder Man, lying to the public and the government, nearly provoking a war with Namor, and purposefully creating a harsh prison to compell people to support him; he also made a bunch of money in the stock market, but that's all for some charity, or something (I'm still not clear what that was all about). And Ben and Sally give him a standing ovation for "doing what needed to be done."

So, the message is, basically, Captain America's unyielding defence of America's ideals is wrongheaded and dangerous; and Iron Man's sneaky, underhanded "greater good" morality is the height of heroics. Yeah.

Iron Man #15: Featuring the 1000th Jim Steranko cover homage!

This issue sets up our favourite ferous fascist as Director of SHIELD. Having apparently gotten over his whole "Armour Wars" phase, he's now equipping special SHIELD units with lesser Iron Man armours (or, at least, equipment); clearly not top-rated stuff, but advanced. Anyway, Dum-Dum Dugan, looking remarkably good for a guy who was impaled recently in Wolverine: Origins, complains that Stark is wrecking SHIELD's military discipline and turning into something akin to a corporation (suggestion boxes, day care, casual Fridays).

We also further the plotline of the return of the Mandarin, as that ex-Taliban fellow finds a seemingly immortal elderly man rotting in a Chinese prison (he doesn't eat, drink, or sleep).

I really pity the work that the Knauffs have to do in this title, writing Tony as a more or less straight hero in the face of the recent events of Civil War. They do a pretty good job, overall. Art is now being done by Ms. Marvel's former artist, and it's good, although I really wish they could get this title an artist akin to McNiven or Cheung, who both deliver Iron Man much more appealingly than he's drawn in his own title.
 
It pertains to the first thing I looked at, the free MARVEL PREVIEW for AVENGERS: THE INITITATIVE. Back in 2006, in interviews with Newsarama and maybe WIZARD, Joe Q "assured" us that 2007 had no "big event", that there would be ramifications to CW but they would be focusing on smaller stuff, giving us a breather. Well, look at the back of this PREVIEW and add up all the chapters on this checklist for this "post event event". Not including FRONTLINE, the T-bolts reprint and the Poster Book, it clocks at 57-58, and I was counting fast. Much like CIVIL WAR, more chapters than states in the Union. Throw in WORLD WAR HULK which will happen concurrently and even by Joe Q's modest estimate of being "half of HOM" means we can expect a good 25 or so chapters, enough to make MAXIMUM CARNAGE look like a hiccup (not even DISASSEMBLED got that bad). It reminds me of the "ad" fiasco; one year Joe Q "assures" us of one thing and then goes back on it the next.

Now, I am sure some will say, that is merely the cost of doing business. All corporate bigwigs decieve their customers, right down to the ads. Some will also say, plans changed since he did interviews in 2006 to the dawn of 2007, seeing that CW helped expand Marvel's comic sales by 22% from 2005 (the rest of their profits fell as they redid merchandise deals, but their actual comic sales saw a jump). But my point is, how can he be expected to be taken for his word when we can very easily find out that his word is as changeable as Hulkling's form? All CEO's lie, just poor Joe just ain't good at not geting caught.

Considering the ending of CW was merely a prelude into THE INITATIVE, we now are living in the age of the perpetual crossover again, where events last beyond "the summer" and stretch into entire YEARS worth of stories. DC, despite starting this trend, at least has given fans a break between IC and WW3, not counting 52. OYL was over quick and all their books were in a de-facto status quo for a while. Of course, the last time they actually outsold Marvel was a IC month (around when issue #6 or #7 shipped I believe), so that may also be why they're following suit.

What should Joe Q do in the future? Level with us because it's better to get a hostile response to honesty than a lie, because at least you can claim moral highground. Or, simply say, NO COMMENT if you are unsure. It's no secret that Joe Q is not the best at interviews, as many of us aren't. Just many of us are not an EIC in charge of a company. If the fans catch wind that anything the EIC says isn't worth the print it's typed on, then Marvel may eventually lose their newfound desire to stoke the fans for sales. I for one tire of being jerked around. One month it's "we'll never have 20+ ads in a book again", and a year later it's "well, the checks are already written, eat it suckers!" Before it was "no big event for 2007", now it is "technically that is true because CW NEVER ENDED!" I would also caution that the age of the perpetual crossover helped bring on the collapse of 1994, so I would tred carefully. Lord knows I'll be more conservative with my INITIATIVE purchases and am not interested in WWH. Can't we get a break? Or does Marvel care nothing for the hardcore fan who plucks down $50 a week, aside for, "how can we get it to $55 a week?" It is the height of hypocrisy to publish comics that lambaste "big business" for shady morals while Marvel of course plays by the same rules. It reminds me of Major League Sports franchises that care nothing for the rising costs of home games when coupled with parking, snacks, etc, only what more can they bleed. There's naturally a desire for profits, but you don't always have to sell out ALL integrity, and when you do, cover your arse better so we don't know about it. Sheesh.

I pose a few questions then.

How does the affect his ability to get good comics out there?

Who is holding the gun to your head to buy all these comics?

Why wouldn't you count 52? By all means its an event in itself that costs a reader $10 a month. I say thats the same as the millions of CW tie-ins, and when you consider that this is leading into Countdown, I really don't see why it should be excluded from the example.
 
It pertains to the first thing I looked at, the free MARVEL PREVIEW for AVENGERS: THE INITITATIVE. Back in 2006, in interviews with Newsarama and maybe WIZARD, Joe Q "assured" us that 2007 had no "big event", that there would be ramifications to CW but they would be focusing on smaller stuff, giving us a breather. Well, look at the back of this PREVIEW and add up all the chapters on this checklist for this "post event event". Not including FRONTLINE, the T-bolts reprint and the Poster Book, it clocks at 57-58, and I was counting fast. Much like CIVIL WAR, more chapters than states in the Union. Throw in WORLD WAR HULK which will happen concurrently and even by Joe Q's modest estimate of being "half of HOM" means we can expect a good 25 or so chapters, enough to make MAXIMUM CARNAGE look like a hiccup (not even DISASSEMBLED got that bad). It reminds me of the "ad" fiasco; one year Joe Q "assures" us of one thing and then goes back on it the next.

Now, I am sure some will say, that is merely the cost of doing business. All corporate bigwigs decieve their customers, right down to the ads. Some will also say, plans changed since he did interviews in 2006 to the dawn of 2007, seeing that CW helped expand Marvel's comic sales by 22% from 2005 (the rest of their profits fell as they redid merchandise deals, but their actual comic sales saw a jump). But my point is, how can he be expected to be taken for his word when we can very easily find out that his word is as changeable as Hulkling's form? All CEO's lie, just poor Joe just ain't good at not geting caught.

Considering the ending of CW was merely a prelude into THE INITATIVE, we now are living in the age of the perpetual crossover again, where events last beyond "the summer" and stretch into entire YEARS worth of stories. DC, despite starting this trend, at least has given fans a break between IC and WW3, not counting 52. OYL was over quick and all their books were in a de-facto status quo for a while. Of course, the last time they actually outsold Marvel was a IC month (around when issue #6 or #7 shipped I believe), so that may also be why they're following suit.

What should Joe Q do in the future? Level with us because it's better to get a hostile response to honesty than a lie, because at least you can claim moral highground. Or, simply say, NO COMMENT if you are unsure. It's no secret that Joe Q is not the best at interviews, as many of us aren't. Just many of us are not an EIC in charge of a company. If the fans catch wind that anything the EIC says isn't worth the print it's typed on, then Marvel may eventually lose their newfound desire to stoke the fans for sales. I for one tire of being jerked around. One month it's "we'll never have 20+ ads in a book again", and a year later it's "well, the checks are already written, eat it suckers!" Before it was "no big event for 2007", now it is "technically that is true because CW NEVER ENDED!" I would also caution that the age of the perpetual crossover helped bring on the collapse of 1994, so I would tred carefully. Lord knows I'll be more conservative with my INITIATIVE purchases and am not interested in WWH. Can't we get a break? Or does Marvel care nothing for the hardcore fan who plucks down $50 a week, aside for, "how can we get it to $55 a week?" It is the height of hypocrisy to publish comics that lambaste "big business" for shady morals while Marvel of course plays by the same rules. It reminds me of Major League Sports franchises that care nothing for the rising costs of home games when coupled with parking, snacks, etc, only what more can they bleed. There's naturally a desire for profits, but you don't always have to sell out ALL integrity, and when you do, cover your arse better so we don't know about it. Sheesh.

Believe it or not I'm actually going to stick up for joey q here :wow:

To say that marvel ae the only company taking the money grubbing route in light of recent announcements is frankly farcical. Didio has gone from infinite crisis straight into a year long weekly event. Seeing that the fans where willing to cough up he's decided to follow this up with ANOTHER year long weekly event. In reality DC fans who want to stay current have not been given a break. There was no gap between infinite crisis and 52, 52 leads into countdown which then will lead into yet another crossover. DC are just as guilty as marvel at the moment.

Also while Joey Q has gone back on his word about no major events at least he hasn't been flat out lying to fans in order to tell a more surprising story. Joey Q said from the start that there was no villain behind civil war. By sticking to this vehemently I would argue the ending of civil war suffered as a result. Didio on the other hand told people that:

ralph wasn't on the gingold (sp?) LIE
booster's story was over LIE

By introducing world war hulk Joey Q has actually given the fans of pak's work on planet hulk WHAT THEY WANTED. He's listened to the fans of annihilation and is in the process of getting a sequel ready. He's giving marvel readers the answers to many nagging questions and a clearer idea of how the new marvel u will opperate in the initiative, WHICH IS NECESSARY given the extreme changes going on. Essentially all these events ARE GIVING THE FANS WHAT THEY HAVE ASKED FOR.

How many DC fans honestly want to shell out for another weekly book a soon as the current one finishes? Didio has seen that he can extract a lot of money from DC's readership with the weekly format and decided to go for broke with a second one.

DC are just as bad as marvel in this respect, the difference being that most of the marvel books are what the fans wanted. He's breaking his promise in order to GIVE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT. Ironic given the lesser of two evils take on civil war that the section focussing on tony in frontline discusses this very week.

In short I dub thee Doc Destruction Mk2. Marvel are bad at the moment but don't let your traditionally marvel-centric views, and anger at what you see as being ripped of by the company you support, blind you to the fact that DC are doing the exact same thing to their own readership as we speak. :whatever:

Damn...writing these uber-long posts is harder than dread and brianwilly make it look :o
 
Rant over, time for the reviews. As always, expect full spoilers. Last one for Feb, and I won't miss that month a bit.

DREAD'S BOUGHT/THOUGHT for 2/28/07:

52 WEEK #43:
After a few weeks of non-stop thrills, and while still readable, 52 is dragging again. Maybe it is because the Marvels have already gotten a lot of focus, but many stories have already been resolved and there is a sense of some middling before the last act kicks into high gear. The Black Marvel's country is still in shambles and Osirus seeks out the Capt. Marvel family to help, but is talked down by Black Adam and Isis, only to revoke his powers. The biggest twist is that Sobek, suffering from endless hunger, eats him alive. Sobek being posessed by Famine is a good theory, but who knows. Meanwhile, Lady Styx is reborn and Animal Man finds a way to survive. Plastic Man also gets an origin, and I have to say that despite all the whining I did about some lame codenames for new Marvel heroes, names like "Speed" and "Stature" beat out Plas' kid, "OFFSPRING" any day. I mean, really, Offspring!? I know rubber heroes are tough to name, but the only way it could have been more stock would have been, "CHILD" or "YET ANOTHER TEEN TITAN" (shortened to "Yatt"). It seems like sometimes writers are lost for clues and just aimlessly scim a thesaurus and type what strikes them. "Gotta name a speedster...gotta name a speedster...hmm...how about FAST!" Ugh. To paraphrase a commerical, even a caveman could do it. To be fair, I guess "Superman", as Invincible put it, is kinda lazy, but even that has more pep than...OFFSPRING? Isn't that a band? Gads. Oh, and in some panels, Black Adam looks exactly like Namor, right down to the hair and eyebrows.

BLUE BEETLE #12: One of the rare new books that reaches the 1 year mark, in a way BB's strength is it's weakness. It offers fun, straightforward superhero adventures about a new hero trying to master his powers, his life and not die. Considering both companies obsessions with death and crossovers, this in itself may be a nice breather. But the problem is that this book offers almost nothing you haven't read elsewhere, and better, in books like INVINCIBLE or something. If you're not aboard now I see no major reason to give the book a try, unless you just yearn for more fundamental superhero stuff. That is not to say this is bad. In fact this issue, which evokes Jamie's dreaded origin again (he spent like 8 issues seeking it before), is pretty skippy. Good art, some quirky and sometimes funny banter between characters, and a slight cliffhanger as his alien race finally makes a visit, and he's off to save the world again. But there really is no solid "hook" beyond the generic beats. I enjoy this kind of thing, but I'd be foolish to call it terribly unique, even amung stuff like X-MEN: FIRST CLASS or something. In a file where you put good but unremarkable superhero comics, BLUE BEETLE has to be one of them. But I enjoy it. No hassles, no stress, fun lines and a quirky hero. I can be a simple man to please. I just don't pretend the book is more than it is. I could see it cancelled in 6 months and probably not miss it much, though. It's sales haven't been stellar, and I can see why. The market is just too full of both good and bad books that have more of an angle.

JLA CLASSIFIED #35: While on the topic of "random", you have to throw in this. However, JLA CLASSIFIED was never intended to be more than a second, less essential JLA title, and it does that job well. I can see part of why Marvel is whipping DC's tail, though. Marvel has few books like this anymore, every book either has a hook, and angle, or is propped up by crossovers. I may hate their dishonesty, but obviously DC's approach doesn't sell as well. Anyway, I was only on this book for Slott's 4TH PARALLEL story and after a good first chapter the other parts are a little more conveluted, corny, and twisted. It's not bad stuff, but compare it to GLA, THE THING or SHE-HULK and it just looks trite. The breakdown is interesting though; after Part 1, each issue has offered us a look at 1 of 3 tries Red King has to take over all of reality by beating the JLA. This issue also recaps it a bit, which I was greatful for. This time, there is no trickery, no facade or whatnot, in this reality Red King just fights the JLA and pummels the crap out of them with brute force, tech and cunning. His armor still screams "generic 90's design" and I hope the ending will be worth it. Some good moments, but even from a Slott fan, this isn't his best. In some ways though, Red King comes off as a "Mary Sue", Slott's creation that naturally has attained this godlike power and can outdo even Earth's Mightiest Heroes either with acting or power. But, this title was never meant to be essential, more like a JLA UNLIMITED only not an anthology of one-shots, so for that it works.

JUSTICE #10: After the pretty armor-up sequence last issue, the brawl begins between the JLA and the LOD. Okay, it happpened before, but it really kicks into high gear here with an outright assault. As always, the artwork is lovely and there are enough figures that you'll have to look over pages just to see what you missed. There is a 2 page latter about an Arab woman describing what it is like to live in the LOD city, even though last issue we learned that Brainaic is just turning everyone into organic machines, and is apparently controlling the entire LOD, save for Luthor. Out of all the characters here, and despite Green Arrow's narration, my "bad @$$ of the issue" has to go to Aquaman. He just goes nuts and gores both Parasite and Black Manta with his trident to try to get to his son, who is in the clutches of Brainiac. If only he was this bad-arse more often, all those "talk to fish" gags would end. Elongated Man also gets to look cool, "shadowing" Ollie and seeming sacrificing himself to stop Clayface, as GA uses some trickery to empower John Stewart past a brainwashed Supergirl. Basically the issue was very busy. Not the best but definately setting up some grand finish in the next two issues; even the Joker is set up. I'm wondering if Ross & Co. will go for the standard ending or wrap in more ethical and moral dilemmas, and if so this could easily be regarded as another KINGDOM COME in the future. In some ways, it was a shame JLU's last season didn't do this same thing with a simular cast.

FRESHMEN II #3: Much like ASTONISHING X-MEN, this book comes out so rarely it is hard to really get anticipated for it, even though it still is solid. Last issue focused on Green Thumb's attempt at suicide, and this one focuses on the male Drama Twin, as he breaks up with his abusive ex for good (with whom he needs contact to use their TK powers) and attempts to hook up with Puppeteer, the only person in his life who has connected to him. Much as with the Quaker issue last volume, Hugh Sterbakov really takes a character who up until now was a stereotype trucked out for laughs (the dumb hick/jock of the team) and really makes him sympathetic. Unfortunately for them, they are attacked by weird cyborg brutes and then set upon by Mr. Fiddlesticks, the thing that is haunting Scarlet Knight but who is very real. Squirrel & Beaver get in some cute advice to Wannabe for his date, although his galpal is SO much of a fanboy's wet dream that despite her cute dialogue you either know it is all a ruse or are bewildered at the lack of imagination. I am choosing the former because despite the low press and Seth Green, FRESHMEN has actually been solid stuff. If it's going to become a movie, I've seen a lot worse. Sterbakov mixes humor with darkness with an ease that few master. Hopefully he moves onto bigger name comics. I probably won't see another issue until April or so, but I'm still aboard. Conrad's art is actually decent enough that I don't miss Leonard Kirk...much.

FRONTLINE #11: Tying up some loose ends from CIVIL WAR #7, it benefits, as it always has, from Jenkins being a more cerebral and subtle writer than Millar is. Millar, as he said in an interview, is basically trying to appease his inner 10 year old. Other writers, like Jenkins, to some degree have grown up into men. This is a well written issue, amung the best of the series as Urich and Floyd interview both Cap and Stark and hammer down their motives for the war and in a way showcase how neither side is innocent. Most of it makes some sense. But combined it reaffirms why CIVIL WAR in a way was unsatisfying; both sides were right, and both were wrong, and both went about it in morally ambiguous ways. Cap became a semi terrorist thug out of touch with common Americans, and Stark sacrificed friendships and lives to achieve a greater good, not unlike, say, Magneto. But an ending of "everyone is bad!" doesn't leave one feeling terribly good. Oh, it's plenty "real" and all, just not satisfying. It's not Nova ripping out Annihilus' guts-satisfying. It's not Dr. Strange-saves-Wong satisfying (more later). It is just draining. I've had a year of this kind of bleak nihilism and it seems it'll be at least another few months of the aftermath, or Initiative. At least with the war over and the status quo apparently agreed upon, maybe the aftermath will be less crude as the war was. I still was irked that despite everything Sally Floyd seems to have no respect for Cap, which even if he made a bad mistake isn't justified. It also confirms that 6 superheroes died in the final battle (and of course, 47 innocent civilians), although who they were hasn't been stated. FL #10 had Typeface be one shown casualty, and ASM noted that Triathalon was MIA, but aside for that, nada. So, CW is over and in a way everyone lost. How wonderful. I'd love to read that again and again....only I'm not a masochist freak like Speedball is now. Hopefully 2007 bares more fruit from the scortched Earth.

To Be Continued
 
Sorry guys but i have a question bout Frontline, I 've been thinking it over but I dont understand how having Norman Osborn as a loose vigilante killing people was supposed make heroes join pro-reg. Osborn is already a known criminal and maniac, what does that have to do with anything. I know i must be missing something but I dont understand Tony's logic, can someone explain it to me?
 
Believe it or not I'm actually going to stick up for joey q here :wow:

To say that marvel ae the only company taking the money grubbing route in light of recent announcements is frankly farcical. Didio has gone from infinite crisis straight into a year long weekly event. Seeing that the fans where willing to cough up he's decided to follow this up with ANOTHER year long weekly event. In reality DC fans who want to stay current have not been given a break. There was no gap between infinite crisis and 52, 52 leads into countdown which then will lead into yet another crossover. DC are just as guilty as marvel at the moment.

Also while Joey Q has gone back on his word about no major events at least he hasn't been flat out lying to fans in order to tell a more surprising story. Joey Q said from the start that there was no villain behind civil war. By sticking to this vehemently I would argue the ending of civil war suffered as a result. Didio on the other hand told people that:

ralph wasn't on the gingold (sp?) LIE
booster's story was over LIE

By introducing world war hulk Joey Q has actually given the fans of pak's work on planet hulk WHAT THEY WANTED. He's listened to the fans of annihilation and is in the process of getting a sequel ready. He's giving marvel readers the answers to many nagging questions and a clearer idea of how the new marvel u will opperate in the initiative, WHICH IS NECESSARY given the extreme changes going on. Essentially all these events ARE GIVING THE FANS WHAT THEY HAVE ASKED FOR.

How many DC fans honestly want to shell out for another weekly book a soon as the current one finishes? Didio has seen that he can extract a lot of money from DC's readership with the weekly format and decided to go for broke with a second one.

DC are just as bad as marvel in this respect, the difference being that most of the marvel books are what the fans wanted. He's breaking his promise in order to GIVE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT. Ironic given the lesser of two evils take on civil war that the section focussing on tony in frontline discusses this very week.

In short I dub thee Doc Destruction Mk2. Marvel are bad at the moment but don't let your traditionally marvel-centric views, and anger at what you see as being ripped of by the company you support, blind you to the fact that DC are doing the exact same thing to their own readership as we speak. :whatever:

Damn...writing these uber-long posts is harder than dread and brianwilly make it look :o

I agree. I mean, WWH is something everyone wanted to see. I know I would've been pissed if Hulk just stayed on the Planet chilling.

Also, if we want to play semantics here, Joey Q was talking universe wide crossover event. WWH is a pretty big event, but nowhere near the scope of a Civil War.

EDIT: I aslo wanted to add that I've never in my whole life have been picking up so many comic books from both companies, and really were getting what looks to be some quality stuff coming out of CW and from DC. I will gladly put down my money every week for comics that I CHOSE to buy and enjoy.
 
FRONTLINE #11: Tying up some loose ends from CIVIL WAR #7, it benefits, as it always has, from Jenkins being a more cerebral and subtle writer than Millar is. Millar, as he said in an interview, is basically trying to appease his inner 10 year old. Other writers, like Jenkins, to some degree have grown up into men. This is a well written issue, amung the best of the series as Urich and Floyd interview both Cap and Stark and hammer down their motives for the war and in a way showcase how neither side is innocent. Most of it makes some sense. But combined it reaffirms why CIVIL WAR in a way was unsatisfying; both sides were right, and both were wrong, and both went about it in morally ambiguous ways. Cap became a semi terrorist thug out of touch with common Americans, and Stark sacrificed friendships and lives to achieve a greater good, not unlike, say, Magneto. But an ending of "everyone is bad!" doesn't leave one feeling terribly good. Oh, it's plenty "real" and all, just not satisfying. It's not Nova ripping out Annihilus' guts-satisfying. It's not Dr. Strange-saves-Wong satisfying (more later). It is just draining. I've had a year of this kind of bleak nihilism and it seems it'll be at least another few months of the aftermath, or Initiative. At least with the war over and the status quo apparently agreed upon, maybe the aftermath will be less crude as the war was. I still was irked that despite everything Sally Floyd seems to have no respect for Cap, which even if he made a bad mistake isn't justified. It also confirms that 6 superheroes died in the final battle (and of course, 47 innocent civilians), although who they were hasn't been stated. FL #10 had Typeface be one shown casualty, and ASM noted that Triathalon was MIA, but aside for that, nada. So, CW is over and in a way everyone lost. How wonderful. I'd love to read that again and again....only I'm not a masochist freak like Speedball is now. Hopefully 2007 bares more fruit from the scortched Earth.

Before you get *****ed at further, I see no reason for that Dr Strange The Oath spoiler in a CW Frontline review, especially if someone is specifically avoiding spoilers from that title.
 
Before you get *****ed at further, I see no reason for that Dr Strange The Oath spoiler in a CW Frontline review, especially if someone is specifically avoiding spoilers from that title.

now that's just ****ing petty.
 

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