Rise of the Silver Surfer BOX OFFICE Discussion

[Advanced Dark]

It should be all about International Box Office now. That's all that's left. Domestically it will cross 130 which is better than not.

 

[Bishop2]

It should be all about International Box Office now. That's all that's left. Domestically it will cross 130 which is better than not.

Yeah, but I'd prefer it make at least 5 million over that domestically. I mean, Sony considers Ghost Rider a success, and it only made 5 million above its production cost in domestic grosses. As it currently stands, I fear RotSS will be seen as a "middling" performer, neither succes nor failure. I suppose that's better than outright failing, though.

 

[Carp Man]

It should be all about International Box Office now. That's all that's left. Domestically it will cross 130 which is better than not.

This month it opens in 14 markets, and Japan in September. These next 2 months will tell. Right now it sits at $ 239.2 WW. I don't see it hitting $ 300 WW. It would need $ 61 million from those 15 markets. 4 million per market ? I guess it's possible. If it hits $ 300 WW, with the studio getting 55 % of the gross, that would be $ 165 million for the studio. Plus DVD sales. Plus cable. I think that warrents a 3. Right now the studio has $ 131.6 million.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

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Okay, carry on with the box office discussion.

 

[GL's Light]

Yeah, but I'd prefer it make at least 5 million over that domestically. I mean, Sony considers Ghost Rider a success, and it only made 5 million above its production cost in domestic grosses. As it currently stands, I fear RotSS will be seen as a "middling" performer, neither succes nor failure. I suppose that's better than outright failing, though.

Sony turned a profit from Ghost Rider, but they've given no indication of any interest in a sequel.

 

[Carp Man]

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Okay, carry on with the box office discussion.

These FF boards are the most diverse as to the varity of topics we discuse. t:

 

[Carp Man]

Sony turned a profit from Ghost Rider, but they've given no indication of any interest in a sequel.

I think there will be, but it's not a priority right now. They have SM 4 to work on.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Sony turned a profit from Ghost Rider, but they've given no indication of any interest in a sequel.

I think it will happen. If nothing else, done with a cheaper actor as Danny to cut down costs.

 

[Carp Man]

I think it will happen. If nothing else, done with a cheaper actor as Danny to cut down costs.

This is not Fox.

 

[Spider-Fan]

This is not Fox.

True, but I don't think Cage is coming back, so using Danny is probably what will happen in Ghost Rider 2 (or The New Ghost Rider...that is a likely title if that happens).

 

[Bishop2]

Sony turned a profit from Ghost Rider, but they've given no indication of any interest in a sequel.

MSJ said there have been "tentative discussions" about it. That indicates interest.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Marvel and Sony will do it but they MUST settle this lawsuit 1st unless it's completely baseless. That's why Cap took so long to start the script stage.

 

[GL's Light]

MSJ said there have been "tentative discussions" about it. That indicates interest.

When did he say that? Kevin Feige recently said that they hadn't heard anything from Sony about a GR sequel.

 

[Carp Man]

When did he say that? Kevin Feige recently said that they hadn't heard anything from Sony about a GR sequel.

Mabey he was out playing golf when the call came in. t: There's no reason not to do a sequel. It made money, and it was well recieved. For a Feb. release it did excelent.

Domestic: $115,802,596 50.6%
+ Foreign: $112,935,797 49.4%

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= Worldwide: $228,738,393

On a $ 110 budget.

# 3 opening weekends Feb and winter.
# 1 Presidents day 4-day holiday weekends, and openers.

 

[GL's Light]

There's no reason not to do a sequel. It made money, and it was well recieved. For a Feb. release it did excelent.

The return on investment was below the threshold that is usually used to justify a sequel. If there is a sequel they probably will recast and bring it in on a reduced budget. If they do make another one I hope it's a lot better than the first one.

It's strange, Carp, that you refer to GR's returns as excellent and yet deride Daredevil as a failure. DD had a better ROI than GR did.

 

[Carp Man]

The return on investment was below the threshold that is usually used to justify a sequel. If there is a sequel they probably will recast and bring it in on a reduced budget. If they do make another one I hope it's a lot better than the first one.

It's strange, Carp, that you refer to GR's returns as excellent and yet deride Daredevil as a failure. DD had a better ROI than GR did.

GR was not expected to do really great. It performed where it was expected to. DD on the other hand. I saw both. The problem with DD in my opinion was Afleck. He's not a leading actor for any movie. They expected more from DD then they did from Gr.

 

[GreenKToo]

Carp: let me get this straight.
are you saying that all of the time you spent bashing S.R. was done without you even seeing it???
Say it ain't so.

I can understand someone hating a film if they have saw it, but not if they havent.

 

[Spider-Fan]

GR was not expected to do really great. It performed where it was expected to. DD on the other hand. I saw both. The problem with DD in my opinion was Afleck. He's not a leading actor for any movie. They expected more from DD then they did from Gr.

DD was a cheaper movie...how could they expect more from DD than GR?

 

[GL's Light]

GR was not expected to do really great. It performed where it was expected to. DD on the other hand. I saw both. The problem with DD in my opinion was Afleck. He's not a leading actor for any movie. They expected more from DD then they did from Gr.

Nonetheless, in dollars and cents return on investment, DD was more successful than GR. Besides, I think GR's performance is more likely to lead Sony to say, "Whew, we dodged a bullet on that one," rather than, "Yay, let's make a sequel!"

 

[Kelly]

Carp: let me get this straight.
are you saying that all of the time you spent bashing S.R. was done without you even seeing it???
Say it ain't so.

I can understand someone hating a film if they have saw it, but not if they havent.

You're surprised? We had a few of those around here for awhile....every board has them.

 

[Carp Man]

Carp: let me get this straight.
are you saying that all of the time you spent bashing S.R. was done without you even seeing it???
Say it ain't so.

I can understand someone hating a film if they have saw it, but not if they havent.

They say appearance is everything. If it looks good, you'll buy it. SR looked like it was not good, starting with the suit. The cape looked like a shower curtain, and the rest of it made my skin crawl. I can draw a conclusion from appearance only. Why do you think advertisers put their best foot foward when advertising their product ?

 

[Kelly]

They say appearance is everything. If it looks good, you'll buy it. SR looked like it was not good, starting with the suit. The cape looked like a shower curtain, and the rest of it made my skin crawl. I can draw a conclusion from appearance only. Why do you think advertisers put their best foot foward when advertising their product ?

That is as dumb as those that do the same here, ya know, those you call trolls.....

 

[Carp Man]

That is as dumb as those that do the same here, ya know, those you call trolls.....

Let me put it this way. What 2 consenting adults chose to do is their business, and I will uphold their right to do it. But I don't want to see it, or even the appearence of it in my movies, my TV show, or in the government. I did not see Brokeback Mountain, Capote, or SR for that very reason. I refuse to give my money, or my viewing time to such things. If I do, I feel I am giving my approval.

 

[GL's Light]

Let me put it this way. What 2 consenting adults chose to do is their business, and I will uphold their right to do it. But I don't want to see it, or even the appearence of it in my movies, my TV show, or in the government. I did not see Brokeback Mountain, Capote, or SR for that very reason. I refuse to give my money, or my viewing time to such things. If I do, I feel I am giving my approval.

Even in the context of your faux online persona, that was a really obnoxious thing to say. I take it then that you refuse to watch the X-Men films.

 

[Kelly]

Let me put it this way. What 2 consenting adults chose to do is their business, and I will uphold their right to do it. But I don't want to see it, or even the appearence of it in my movies, my TV show, or in the government. I did not see Brokeback Mountain, Capote, or SR for that very reason. I refuse to give my money, or my viewing time to such things. If I do, I feel I am giving my approval.

What the hell are you talking about?