Rise of the Silver Surfer BOX OFFICE Discussion

[Kelly]

Someone said that FF2 hadnt opened in Japan yet...is that true?

They say after the U.S., Japan is the next biggest market...

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[Retroman]

People applaud for everything, it just depends on your audience...once one person starts everyone goes at it even though its a bad scene
People clapped in the theater when Harry came to help Peter in SM3, and when he saves her, and when Harry sacrifices himself, and when Peter defeats venom, and when Mj and Pete make up...it never ends.

I said it's rare for an audience to react the way they did last week with Transformers in this country.Hype member matrix_ghost who lives here goes to the cinema much more often than me and he said the same thing.From what i read that kind of thing is pretty normal in the USA but it isn't over here.No one really reacted like that during 300, Pirates or Spidey etc.

 

[Retroman]

Someone said that FF2 hadnt opened in Japan yet...is that true?

They say after the U.S., Japan is the next biggest market...

Japan 29 September 2007

The first FF movie made $9,081,369 in Japan, X2 made $15,253,222, Spidey 3 wow: ) $57,493,036, X3 $12,983,636, Superman $11,300,000 and Ghost Rider $4,408,813. An indication of the potential earnings....

 

[Kelly]

The first FF movie made $9,081,369 in Japan, X2 made $15,253,222, Spidey 3 wow: ) $57,493,036, X3 $12,983,636, Superman $11,300,000 and Ghost Rider $4,408,813. An indication of the potential earnings....

*crosses fingers*

 

[GL's Light]

They say after the U.S., Japan is the next biggest market...

Japan is the second biggest market in total, partly owing to how much money their domestic industry makes, but it often doesn't provide the second highest gross for Hollywood films. The UK is generally the second best market for Hollywood's superhero films.

The best foreign markets for FF 1 were:

1. UK/Ireland ($ 22.579 mil)
2. Mexico ($ 22.178 mil)
3. France ($ 16.36 mil)
4. Spain ($ 15.243 mil)
5. Italy ($ 12.373 mil)
6. Australia ($ 9.185 mil)
7. Japan ($ 9.081 mil)

 

[X-Maniac]

I said it's rare for an audience to react the way they did last week with Transformers in this country.Hype member matrix_ghost who lives here goes to the cinema much more often than me and he said the same thing.From what i read that kind of thing is pretty normal in the USA but it isn't over here.No one really reacted like that during 300, Pirates or Spidey etc.

You're quite correct. The irritating habit of clapping, cheering, standing and yelling during movies is, thankfully, confined to the USA. When I last went to a movie in the US, I might as well have been at a sports game - the clapping and shouting drowned out most of the movie.

Here in the UK, we're a more disciplined bunch. Apart from those who endlessly crunch on popcorn, play with their mobile phones, giggle or talk... and most of those are likely to get my foot in their mouth! I once told a man to move along (in the row ahead of me) because his head was too big. t:

 

[Mr. Socko]

People never clap during a film where I am. Just afterwards. This year the only films people have clapped for that I've been to were Transformers and Spider-Man 3.

 

[ultimatefan]

You're quite correct. The irritating habit of clapping, cheering, standing and yelling during movies is, thankfully, confined to the USA. When I last went to a movie in the US, I might as well have been at a sports game - the clapping and shouting drowned out most of the movie.

Here in the UK, we're a more disciplined bunch. Apart from those who endlessly crunch on popcorn, play with their mobile phones, giggle or talk... and most of those are likely to get my foot in their mouth! I once told a man to move along (in the row ahead of me) because his head was too big. t:

It´s not confined to USA anymore. People here in Brazil didn´t have the habit of cheering and applauding to movies, but it´s increasing exponentially. Thankfully, people usually wait till the movie´s over to applaud and/or cheer - I have seen it in The Phantom Menace - quite shocking at the time - some in Spidey 2, pretty full on in Chronicles of Narnia, in one of my three screenings of BB and on the first night of Spidey 3.

 

[Kelly]

You're quite correct. The irritating habit of clapping, cheering, standing and yelling during movies is, thankfully, confined to the USA. When I last went to a movie in the US, I might as well have been at a sports game - the clapping and shouting drowned out most of the movie.

Here in the UK, we're a more disciplined bunch. Apart from those who endlessly crunch on popcorn, play with their mobile phones, giggle or talk... and most of those are likely to get my foot in their mouth! I once told a man to move along (in the row ahead of me) because his head was too big. t:

I've been going to movies in the US for over 3 decades, and I've never heard clapping, shouting loud enough to drown out most of the movie. Maybe a scene here and there, but most ????? Come on now, alittle exaggeration there.....

Here in the UK, we're a more disciplined bunch.

some call it "boring"....

 

[DieSmiling]

I love it when people clap and yell and cheer at a movie. Crowds that are into it rule.

 

[Sentinel X]

I said it's rare for an audience to react the way they did last week with Transformers in this country.Hype member matrix_ghost who lives here goes to the cinema much more often than me and he said the same thing.From what i read that kind of thing is pretty normal in the USA but it isn't over here.No one really reacted like that during 300, Pirates or Spidey etc.

Oh I see you are from Netherlands...In the US sometimes the crowd claps for anything as soon as one person starts and once one person starts it never ends..they clap at ever scene almost.

I've been going to movies in the US for over 3 decades, and I've never heard clapping, shouting loud enough to drown out most of the movie. Maybe a scene here and there, but most ????? Come on now, alittle exaggeration there.....



some call it "boring"....

If anyone clapped for that much Id seriously tell them to be quiet or leave (unless its like a 200+ pound dude)

I love it when people clap and yell and cheer at a movie. Crowds that are into it rule.

Sometimes it can be really fun but when the movie is bad it pisses me off, its one of my little pet peeves. But I rather have a crowd thats into it then a zombie crowd...have your ever had one of those, god...those are the worst.
They dont laugh at anything. They dont even smile. They are not scared or on the edge of their seats, the just sit and eat popcorn

 

[Mr. Socko]

some call it "boring"....

LMAO!

 

[Mercurius]

People cheered A LOT, I clearly remember, during LOTR.

But they had what to cheer about, in those three particular movies. I find it rather cheap when it becomes just a common habit.

 

[Spade]

People clapped when FF2 ended and just silently streamed out when SM3 finished in my screenings. It'll be interesting to see how the Transformers reaction goes.

 

[X-Maniac]

I've been going to movies in the US for over 3 decades, and I've never heard clapping, shouting loud enough to drown out most of the movie. Maybe a scene here and there, but most ????? Come on now, alittle exaggeration there.....

What I meant that most of what is going on in the movie at the time of the clapping/cheering is totally drowned out, not that the entire movie was drowned out! In others words, it's a frickin' annoying distraction and it's easy to miss dialogue or lose a vital thread in the plot! t: :

some call it "boring"....

Heh. But, still, I'd rather actually see and hear the movie I've paid to see. No one expects total silence, but I don't find prolonged sessions of wild applause, booing, cheering, or standing up and shouting and punching the air to be particularly amusing.

It's bad enough when one goes to see a film in the winter and it's punctuated by people's coughing and the rustling of throat lozenges being unwrapped!

As for popcorn, I'm not a fan. Aside from the rustling and crunching, it smells like a rhinoceros has farted.

 

[Tony Stark]

People clapped when FF2 ended and just silently streamed out when SM3 finished in my screenings. It'll be interesting to see how the Transformers reaction goes.

Well the two movies had very different endings. Really they should have finished SM3 with a final swing, but I guess Raimi wanted the scene of Peter and MJ reconciling.

 

[X-Maniac]

Sometimes it can be really fun but when the movie is bad it pisses me off, its one of my little pet peeves. But I rather have a crowd thats into it then a zombie crowd...have your ever had one of those, god...those are the worst.
They dont laugh at anything. They dont even smile. They are not scared or on the edge of their seats, the just sit and eat popcorn

I agree, no one is expecting zombie crowds - nothing wrong with laughing, or jumping at the scary bits, or the odd bit of reaction here and there. It's the 'sports game' reactions that I find a little too much - those are fine if you are viewing at home where I'm the first to shout at the TV or leap around cheering <blush>. As for popcorn, I'm not a fan of that - it's noisy and it smells like farts.

 

[GreenKToo]

Same here. just some occasional mild applause. I have never saw anyone stand and cheer.

I think a better word than boring is uptight.t:

I've been going to movies in the US for over 3 decades, and I've never heard clapping, shouting loud enough to drown out most of the movie. Maybe a scene here and there, but most ????? Come on now, alittle exaggeration there.....



some call it "boring"....

 

[Krozee]

Sometimes it can be really fun but when the movie is bad it pisses me off, its one of my little pet peeves. But I rather have a crowd thats into it then a zombie crowd...have your ever had one of those, god...those are the worst.
They dont laugh at anything. They dont even smile. They are not scared or on the edge of their seats, the just sit and eat popcorn

Me too. Like when I saw 1408 there was this guy who sat through the entire movie eating 2 bags of popcorn all to himself! And then when the movie was about to end, he just got up and left the theatre.

 

[TheVileOne]

When all is said and done, Knocked Up will be more profitable than Fantastic Four.

 

[Mr. Socko]

When all is said and done, Knocked Up will be more profitable than Fantastic Four.

It already is...

 

[TheVileOne]

It already is...

Yep. The 130 minute, R-rated comedy that cost $30 million will make more money and more of a profit than the 90 minute, PG-rated, $130 million, family-friendly, franchise movie.

 

[Malus]

Well the "Knocked Up" action figures are really kick-ass.
The PS2 game, not so much.

 

[highguard]

^^ Yeah the profit percentage on these comic book films are not so good sometimes, however they seem to be the only films that are immune to huge flops, even though Catwoman and Elektra did not make great bank they really did not break it. All the superhero movies in the last few years or so have made back their budget when you add in DVD and tv licensing and stuff.

Now when you look at some other expensive fare like That Titanic clone (I forgot the name) and the island and now Evan Almighty and Eragon you see that sometimes spending the money does not work.

So the superheroes are bankable but if you don't deliver on quality ROI is middling.

However chances of FF beating Knocked up worldwide is strong because they are superheroes and have a built in worldwide audience.

However the FF's time to shine was in this movie and for me they dropped the ball on what this movie could have been.

Someone said they had years of FF fans to help, well I think they despised those same fans. Apparently someone thought they could make better more updated characters, lol.

How is that working out for you Fox?

 

[GL's Light]

Now when you look at some other expensive fare like That Titanic clone (I forgot the name) and the island and now Evan Almighty and Eragon you see that sometimes spending the money does not work.

Eragon's domestic box office was mediocre, but its international returns were strong enough that it ended up with a successful ROI overall: $ 249 mil worldwide against a $ 100 mil production budget.