A thread highlighting a recent marvel film is sure to motivate some flaming, just saying.
I personally think opening sentiments from TS highlight elements of a double standard and perception issues en mass.
Firstly: The main 'difference' between mos and the antiquated superman is supposedly in his actions.
-Killing,
-Stealing,
-Putting people in harms way,
-Saving pedestrians.
MoS supposedly 'fell short' in all those categories in ways superman of tradition isn't supposed to. In accordance with the new recent thinking, marvel presents a cap that excels in this stuff. Except for the part where he kills lots of folks, steals things, puts people in harms ways(see vending machine) and doesn't save pedestrians in (gun)traffic when he could have had he tries harder, doesn't lead his pursuers away from population..Just seems like a clear double standard plain and simple.
I find it pretty sad when I hear that the superman film wasn't good for kids cause of the violence in it and the less than perfect actions employed by superman, that's fine and all I guess, till I see people not say the same about cap. That maid scene didn't seem kid friendly imo.
Secondly: Cap is very much a product of antiquity and that's actively fueling his 'good old boy' nature. The old fashioned sensibilities are very much always going to be a part of cap cause he's a man of out (a simpler) time on paper. Superman at times has been presented this way mostly because his prior films were of a superman born in the 60's or straight up throw backs to the 40/50s serials. If you watch TAS or any of the Bruce Tim work, such elements are far less prevalent and that's because unlike cap superman is supposed to be product of modern times.
The only thing left fueling the good old boy caricature in superman is that he was born in the midwest vs the fast moving city. I personally don't see any modern jon kents really pushing that bus any longer, they have frontier morality and that's pretty much been kept in tact in mos imo.
In short, I think the reason Reeve acted the way he did was because the film is old fashioned, not because Superman that's how you convey superman is a 'boy scout'. The reason cap needs to act as he does is because he's old fashioned by definition. Bruce Tim's superman vs EMH's cap speaks volumes on this. Cap(see avengers) and Reeve even dress as 'boy scouts', there's a good reason why Cavil doesn't.
That being said, MOS superman was a pretty darn nice guy, from about the age of 8. Cavill is pretty much conveying the Birthright Superman imo. Even Reeve addressed to Luthor a certain way. Perhaps if we take a second look at just who Cavill spoke to and how appropriately he addressed them.
Lastly, on the issue of angst. I'm curious if there is more screen minutes of moping from Cap vs that of Cavill. Whatever the answer, the fact that one can ask the question speaks volumes about what it is people are choosing to see. Both were even bullied in their youth and are 'sad' about it.
I like both films. TWS fixed cap for me as far was my views on Marvel Studios. Maybe the MOS sequel will do the same for non fans.
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