Buffy Season 8

[BrianWilly]

Variant cover for #16, which gets a resounding "uh...sure?" from me.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Buffy, Willow, Vi, and... Kennedy? I'm not sure who the two who clearly aren't Buffy and Willow are, other than that they're not Buffy and Willow.

 

[BrianWilly]

I kinda wish Willow would cut back on the long flowing skirts for a while. I know it's visually impressive in a comic book and is a way to say "Hey there's the Wiccan" in a comic full of women who might not be all that distinguishable otherwise, but still...that's not all she wore on the show, in fact I'm fairly sure she wore pants more often than not. I just don't know if I like her being trapped in a visual style.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I recall Willow wearing pants more often than not, too. Like it or not, though, clothes play a much bigger role in helping to differentiate characters in comics than on TV and flowing, earth-toned skirts do say "witch" a lot more than jeans.

 

[BrianWilly]

I just said that.

I don't think I really even noticed it until this issue, until she was sitting in a combat plane going off on an espionage mission with all these Slayers, and she's the only person for miles wearing the absolutely worst thing you could be wearing in a combat plane going off on an espionage mission.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That is a bit much, especially since SlayerCo now outfits all its Slayers with body armor and stuff. I guess Willow's magic makes pretty much any sort of clothing combat-practical, though. If someone tries to hit her, she'll probably block it magically whether she's wearing body armor or not.

 

[BrianWilly]

Does she have magic preventing her long flowing skirt from catching in doorways?

Well, maybe that now she's in a comic book, she's protected by the same force that protects Batman's cape.

 

[fifthfiend]

I too dislike the skirts. They look I don't know, dowdy.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Ya I am tired of the skirts, Willow looks much better with pants and shirt. What she wore on the show always made her distinguishable since it was always "cute"

 

[LexCorp]

I kinda wish Willow would cut back on the long flowing skirts for a while. I know it's visually impressive in a comic book and is a way to say "Hey there's the Wiccan" in a comic full of women who might not be all that distinguishable otherwise, but still...that's not all she wore on the show, in fact I'm fairly sure she wore pants more often than not. I just don't know if I like her being trapped in a visual style.

She looks much better in pants too I think. On the show of course, who could forget the evil Williow from season 3. Tight leather pants. Yep that will do it for ya.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I thought she looked kind of terrible in her evil Willow outfit...

 

[LexCorp]

I thought she looked kind of terrible in her evil Willow outfit...

Really - the only other outfit that I find better than that one was when Buffy wore the black coat - and only the black coat when Xander put the love whammy on the girls of Sunnydale.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

To be honest, the only girls I really found attractive on Buffy's series were Anya and Cordy.

 

[LexCorp]

To be honest, the only girls I really found attractive on Buffy's series were Anya and Cordy.

You must have loved the playboy issue with her on it then

Hmmm never found Anya to be attractive.

Buffy at season 3 was her best.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Buffy was pretty hot in season 1 to me. After that she got skinnier and skinnier, which made her look really wiry.

 

[LexCorp]

Buffy was pretty hot in season 1 to me. After that she got skinnier and skinnier, which made her look really wiry.

Indeed - after season 3 she never put the weight back on

Season 3 had the best bunch of hotties if you ask me.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Dawn was pretty scrumptious in the last season, too.

 

[LexCorp]

Dawn was pretty scrumptious in the last season, too.

Yes but after EuroTrip I can never take her seriously as an actress or woman lol

 

[TheCorpulent1]

What, were you expecting EuroTrip to be a cinematic masterpiece or something?

 

[LexCorp]

What, were you expecting EuroTrip to be a cinematic masterpiece or something?

lol

No but I just felt she was given a totaly lame role plus when she reveals herself on the french beach.....ribs

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, you can see most skinny people's ribs if they thrust their chests out like that. It's not like she's Calista Flockhart or anything.

 

[LexCorp]

Well, you can see most skinny people's ribs if they thrust their chests out like that. It's not like she's Calista Flockhart or anything.

Indeed but that was too much rib showing for any amount of stretching.

 

[pyromaniac]

I could be mistaken, but I believe Faith has implied bisexuality before. She seems like the "I'll have sex with anyone" type anyhow.

I dunno, it just feels forced. I mean, I get that Joss is into the whole girl power, don't need a man movement...but...I think he force feeds it at times. Willow's transformation, I guess I can get. Willow grew up with overbearing, conservative, hardcore Jewish (wouldn't even let her watch A Charlie Brown Christmas) parents. She goes to college, suddenly she has freedom to try new things. She gets more involved with witchcraft and...well...other things. Buffy on the other hand had the opportunity to experiment, try new things. While Hank and Joyce were together, they were neglectful (if you count the movie as canon) and even once Hank left, Joyce made sure to treat Buffy like an adult. Psychological studies imply that experimentation is more about having the freedom to experiment than the actual sex. Buffy has had the freedom and opportunity her whole life. And everything we know about the character implies that she is into guys. There has never been the slightest suggestion that she could be attracted to women (Willow, for example, had Vampire Willow to imply that she was gay, at least). But then out of right field...Buffy is suddenly bedding Satsu...and enjoying it quite a bit, based on their dialogue afterwards...and is attracted to her, based on Joss' interview on the topic. It just seems out of character to me.

Joss has a fetish, we get it, that's fine, who doesn't? I just think it severely compromises his integrity as a writer when he is willing to allow such a drastic character change with absolutely no build up to it.

Okay, well, there are girls who are straight through and through but claim their sexuality 'with a twist', meaning they'll go for a girl they like and then they'll stick to the penis, or while they still like the penis. It's a bit more common than you think.

After all, don't you ever notice many a girl commenting on the same sex's attractiveness? The fact they're more open about their feelings (which makes it easier to lead into practice, if any) than the men, would be indicative of that theory.

I don't mind Buffy where she is at the moment, mainly because I am the trusting sort and I love good storytelling, for me, and only will focus on certain semantics, technicalities or suspensions of belief if they rub me the wrong way. In #11, I think, when Buffy reveals she knows about Satsu's love for her, she is asked whether she is gay. She answers, 'not so you'd notice'.

That, I thought, was a curious comment. If people thought she is acting out of character, then that comment implies the internal dialogue that she's had in previous seasons - the likelihood of being attracted to women, or at least referring to their attractiveness, in the mind. Slayers, to me, have an intimate heritage that sometimes need to be shared, usually on the basis of how alone they are.

 

[LexCorp]

Okay, well, there are girls who are straight through and through but claim their sexuality 'with a twist', meaning they'll go for a girl they like and then they'll stick to the penis, or while they still like the penis. It's a bit more common than you think.

After all, don't you ever notice many a girl commenting on the same sex's attractiveness? The fact they're more open about their feelings (which makes it easier to lead into practice, if any) than the men, would be indicative of that theory.

I don't mind Buffy where she is at the moment, mainly because I am the trusting sort and I love good storytelling, for me, and only will focus on certain semantics, technicalities or suspensions of belief if they rub me the wrong way. In #11, I think, when Buffy reveals she knows about Satsu's love for her, she is asked whether she is gay. She answers, 'not so you'd notice'.

That, I thought, was a curious comment. If people thought she is acting out of character, then that comment implies the internal dialogue that she's had in previous seasons - the likelihood of being attracted to women, or at least referring to their attractiveness, in the mind. Slayers, to me, have an intimate heritage that sometimes need to be shared, usually on the basis of how alone they are.

I believe a great man once said - Nothing can defeat the penis.

Thank you Xander.

 

[pyromaniac]

I believe a great man once said - Nothing can defeat the penis.

Thank you Xander.

Hey, I'm down with that too.

Speaking on the topic of Willow's dress, I believe the fact that the fashion in the early seasons of Buffy, especially the first season, is much different for Buffy, Angel and Spike than what has become the 'norm' today.

So I don't see anything wrong with that.