Campus shooting at Northern Illinois University

[PyroChamber]

It said that the guy wasn't even a student there anymore, what the hell would make him just wanna cme back and shoot everybody?

Like everyone has said, what exactly is there to rebel against in college? And out of curiousity, has there ever been a school shooting where the shooter DIDN'T shoot themselves and the police got them?

 

[terry78]

Not that I can remember. Usually the game plan is to kill yourself, but take out as many as you can before you do. Like time attack mode in a video game.

 

[bullets]

Why not just blow up the place. Utilize the gas pipe or something. I'm sick of these pansies and their halfassed hissy fits.

 

[terry78]

Why not just blow up the place. Utilize the gas pipe or something. I'm sick of these pansies and their halfassed hissy fits.

These pansies are your future bosses.

 

[Troubled_Josh]

Eric and Dylan did try explosives, but they didn't go off as planned. Luckily.

And having been there and thought that, I know that if I ever did something like this in high school suicide would definitely be part of the plan. Just having to have people look at you as a monster, getting those disappointed looks from your parents for doing something like this, being studied under a microscope- not something anyone would want to live through.

In an episode that I'm writing for a virtual series. It was litterally impossible for me to end the story of talking the kid out of it without him resorting to the idea and action of suicide if he killed anyone. So had to have him not kill anyone just to have it end without suicide. Only ending that made sense.

 

[LuiECuomo]

Why not just blow up the place. Utilize the gas pipe or something. I'm sick of these pansies and their halfassed hissy fits.

Yes, because that's so much less cowardly.

 

[Troubled_Josh]

it's more cowardly. no doubt. don't want to face consequences. but trust me man, in the minds of those who think it- at least most- its the only end that makes sense.

 

[LuiECuomo]

it's more cowardly. no doubt. don't want to face consequences. but trust me man, in the minds of those who think it- at least most- its the only end that makes sense.

I was referring to the idea of using explosives rather than going on a shooting spree. Both are cowardly are inexcusable behavior.

 

[bullets]

I was referring to the idea of using explosives rather than going on a shooting spree. Both are cowardly are inexcusable behavior.

I was talking about what would be more effective. These school /work related shooting have become a dime a dozen . Also they are never that sucessful for the killer. They are so incapable that their spree isnt worth the trouble for them.

 

[Troubled_Josh]

their spree is to kill as many people as they can before it's game over and they die. so for them it's a success, not as big as a one they were hoping for- but still success. in a sad and twisted way of looking at things.

and as said before the columbine shooters did plant bombs, they just didn't go off. luckily. their goal was 100, and there were only about 10 they didn't want to kill. (read journals as research for episode)

 

[StrainedEyes]

Eric and Dylan did try explosives, but they didn't go off as planned. Luckily.

And having been there and thought that, I know that if I ever did something like this in high school suicide would definitely be part of the plan. Just having to have people look at you as a monster, getting those disappointed looks from your parents for doing something like this, being studied under a microscope- not something anyone would want to live through.

In an episode that I'm writing for a virtual series. It was litterally impossible for me to end the story of talking the kid out of it without him resorting to the idea and action of suicide if he killed anyone. So had to have him not kill anyone just to have it end without suicide. Only ending that made sense.

And why are you doing this?

 

[terry78]

And why are you doing this?

Why do you think?

 

[StrainedEyes]

Why do you think?

He's going to shoot up the Hype... isn't he?

 

[StrainedEyes]

I really don't understand why this kind of thing is happening more and more. I'm pretty sure we've gone hundreds of years of school establishments without embittered teenagers running and gunning/killing everyone because of some stupid and petty reason. Mental disease or not. Hell mental diseases are much more treatable now then ever, you'd think this type of thing would have been more rampant before.

It's just honestly scary that you could be sitting in your class and for some reason that you probably will never know, some guy just busts in and starts shooting people.

I know people die every day, and I know gun violence happens constantly and these stories aren't original. But this was something no one ever worried about before.

Next thing you know, people will start shooting up department or grocery stores, sports stadiums during a big game, or even restaurants just because they can't handle what their dealing with and they want to go out in a blaze of glory.

It's sick.

 

[Troubled_Josh]

wait, um, what???

The episode? Or why did I think that way?

Thought that way 4 years ago because I was pushed there by people who tormented me and made my life a living hell.

Why am I writing the episode? Because I manage a virtual series and write for it and thought I could write a good commentative episode that speaks about the subject at hand and shows what I believe the main problem to do be (school system) and that high school is a messed up place for everyone.

Hell, the tormentor in my episode even has his own problems creating a whole gray area to the episode.

 

[StrainedEyes]

wait, um, what???

The screen name, the posts, the join date, all seems to point to you just being here just to comment on these student killings with slightly ambiguous comments.

 

[Troubled_Josh]

read the post above dude. four years past high school and I can't understand college shootings for the life of me. think there might be some similar aspects though. and no I've been a member of this board for three years now. don't want people to know who I am. You all know me though.

 

[StrainedEyes]

wait, um, what???

The episode? Or why did I think that way?

Thought that way 4 years ago because I was pushed there by people who tormented me and made my life a living hell.

Why am I writing the episode? Because I manage a virtual series and write for it and thought I could write a good commentative episode that speaks about the subject at hand and shows what I believe the main problem to do be (school system) and that high school is a messed up place for everyone.

Hell, the tormentor in my episode even has his own problems creating a whole gray area to the episode.

Why can't you just write something about it, and not make up an imaginary story about someone wanting to kill people? There's no need for that.

 

[Troubled_Josh]

in the process of also writing a semi-autobiographical screenplay about my high school years. And most people who write episodes and films on this subject don't base it directly on their lives. Plus there's more stories in that, out of the people I knew:

- One guy was entering the war because war is in his family.
- One of my friends, who was popular, dealt with a kind of Friday Night Lights situation
- One of my friends attempted to commit suicide, running into a store and threatening that he was going to kill himself.

So there's a whole cast of interesting (and REAL) characters/people.

 

[StrainedEyes]

About those oh so horrible high school years? Everyone is tormented in high school, it's part of the experience.

Stop editing your post, you make me look like an idiot who didn't read what you said.

 

[Troubled_Josh]

yeah, but for me that experience led me somewhere I DIDN'T want to go. feelings of suicide and being a human time bomb. Somewhere that I don't feel comfortable telling to anyone unanymously. Hell, even here I have a screen name that's been registered for three years and only registered a new one to post in the Naturo- now these boards. All of you guys know me, just don't want you to know it's me.

 

[StrainedEyes]

yeah, but for me that experience led me somewhere I DIDN'T want to go. Somewhere that I don't feel comfortable telling to anyone unanymously. Hell, even here I have a screen name that's been registered for three years and only registered a new one to post in the Naturo- now these boards.

Blah blah. I had a f***ing horrible time in high school, and I dealt with it like a normal person. To even think that you might go in and randomly shoot the people who teased you, means there is something seriously wrong with you. I'm glad you don't think that way anymore, but no one is going to want to read your true stories of how you couldn't handle the popular kids who hurt your feelings. I don't care how many "war" stories you add in to make it dramatic.

 

[Troubled_Josh]

actually only a small fraction of the plot deals with that. the bigger aspects revolves around seeing everyone's story and how each story effects each other. With the prime one being my friend's near suicide which had a lot of elements that led up to that point. And the near-suicide was not caused by any problems in school. Want to make something that is dark, true, and unlike the cliche and completely unrealistic american pie view on high school. so the film deals with a disturbed teenager, suicidal teenager, a friday night lights teenager, and a teenager struggling with the option of following in family footsteps and going into war or not going into war.

 

[StrainedEyes]

actually only a small fraction of the plot deals with that. the bigger aspects revolves around seeing everyone's story and how each story effects each other. With the prime one being my friend's near suicide which had a lot of elements that led up to that point. And the near-suicide was not caused by any problems in school. Want to make something that is dark, true, and unlike the cliche and completely unrealistic american pie view on high school.

In other words, your friends suicide attempt (Though as far as I can tell he just went into a room and shouted he was going to kill himself) which lead you to want to kill people in your school, had nothing to do with your school and thus isn't a reason for pushing you over the edge against your classmates?

 

[Troubled_Josh]

no. those events weren't connected. lots were, but the suicide attempt had nothing to do with that (which is why the whole 'shooting thinking' is only a small fraction of the film) but it shows how dark high school years can be. I was already on my own downward spiral back then and caught up in my own world to realize the signs at the time and later felt guilty about it. thinking if I had paid more attention it never would have went to that.

and it wasn't a room, he ran to a small diner and yelled it- police arrived and everything.

tired of the "everything's great, no problems at all" high school movies, when in fact high school is a teenage wasteland.

so showing all of these connected stories to show the rollercoaster ride from freshman to senior year. which is filled with ups, downs, and frightening life changing moments.