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Do you think an Avengers movie can be big enough at the box office to stand shoulder to shoulder to movies Titanic and Avatar?
 
Money-wise, I think it depends a great deal on the IM2, Thor and Captain America films. If they're great, then possibly.

If they're not great, then I don't think the Avengers film will succeed.
 
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Yeh what Bren said. IM2 will make a buttload of money but it still has to be good. If Thor and CA make anywhere near what IM did then Avengers is shaping up to be huge. More than likely not Avatar huge though.
 
Do you think an Avengers movie can be big enough at the box office to stand shoulder to shoulder to movies Titanic and Avatar?

Probably not. The Superhero genre is heading towards self parody. Batman; Brave and the Bold, Superhero squad etc.

A semi-serious SH movie by the time this one can be released may be doomed by it's seriousness.

At the same time, going camp probably will kill it.
 
It can be if Sam Raimi directs.

Sam Raimi made Spider-man into a multibillion dollar movie franchise.
 
why not have all the directors - Johnson/Branagh/Leterrier/Favareu/ collaborate with each other as well as marvel being a helping hand
 
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Probably not. The Superhero genre is heading towards self parody. Batman; Brave and the Bold, Superhero squad etc.

A semi-serious SH movie by the time this one can be released may be doomed by it's seriousness.

At the same time, going camp probably will kill it.

Those are shows aimed kids, its not a reflection of a trend in super movies, which has an older target demo.

I think Avengers will do well but not as well Avatar.
 
Titanic and Avatar were both released around Christmas, a time where there isn't a new mega hyped blockbuster to compete with each weekend.

I'm sure Avengers will be released in the summer, so it probably will need a late summer release (like TDK did) to have enough legs to carry it into the 500 - 600 million territory.
 
Do you think an Avengers movie can be big enough at the box office to stand shoulder to shoulder to movies Titanic and Avatar?
No way..

Titanic and Avatar were both released around Christmas, a time where there isn't a new mega hyped blockbuster to compete with each weekend.

I'm sure Avengers will be released in the summer, so it probably will need a late summer release (like TDK did) to have enough legs to carry it into the 500 - 600 million territory.
..seems more likely, yes
 
Anything's possible. It all depends on how IM2, Thor, and Cap do. I hope they go all out Digital 3D on Avengers. This movie needs to be an EVENT! Even if it means pushing the film back to 2013 IMHO. It has to more than a run of the mill superhero team up film, considering the 5 movie prelude it will have. If it is the epic action event I hope it will be (and think it should be) then reaching Avatar is certainly not impossible.
 
Maybe if they got Cameron or Peter Jackson... otherwise I don't see it. They just need the right director. Any competent director can deliver an 800 million dollar movie if he is continuing off of solid momentum established by Thor/Cap/IM. But to get to that billion dollar plus mark they need one of those big time guys that can deliver something that will truly stand above and beyond the genre. I don't see any of the current Marvel directors accomplishing that as it stands now.
 
The first one? No.

Not a big enough global market... it might outdo it in the US alone though if its good enough and can ride a decent enough hype wave.

Avatar will do better globally than a first Avengers film could do regardless of quality though, in my opinion. Although a second one could feasibly do as well if made well, marketed well and the first one were viewed as a quality successful film.
 
Well, I think it's possible. My main concern is maybe they're trying to saturate the market with too many superhero films? But I believe anything is possible at this point. I honestly have the perception that the crowds will gather for seeing Captain America, Thor, Hulk, and Iron Man on the big screen together.

I mean it's the first time this has ever happened in live action format and I'm sure that form of cinema history will help make the Avengers be huge.
 
As much as I'm looking forward to Captain America I could see that suffering internationally as well.

I could see a Justice League movie doing better internationally than an Avengers movie since more people are familiar with Sups/Bats/WW than the Avengers globally.

Flash as well.
 
Yea... Justice League could probably work better internationally than Avengers...

But if its Avengers with Spider-man and Wolverine then it will break 1B dollars for sure...
 
Wolverine won't be in it. But there's a slim chance Spidey could, if Sony makes a deal with Marvel.
 
Do you think an Avengers movie can be big enough at the box office to stand shoulder to shoulder to movies Titanic and Avatar?
If EVERYTHING falls into place & Cap & Thor are huge blockbusters at least as big as Iron Man, & 3D is used innovatively, Avengers may challenge the US number. Overseas, superhero films never seem to do quite as well :csad:

It can be if Sam Raimi directs.

Sam Raimi made Spider-man into a multibillion dollar movie franchise.
Avatar is going to make more money worldwide than all 3 Spider-Man films combined lol.
 
Already posted on this earlier. Damn Necrothreadmancers!
 
Only way it could catch those movies is if these things happened.

1) Iron Man 2, Captain America, Thor all made huge references to Avengers and were amazing movies.

2) Viral Marketing/Huge Investment of Commercial Advertising supports the Avengers.

3) Some personal tragedy or media event gives people who have no interest in Super Hero movies a reason to watch.
 
Do you think an Avengers movie can be big enough at the box office to stand shoulder to shoulder to movies Titanic and Avatar?
If you put every Marvel and DC character into one movie, it wouldn't make "AVATAR' money at the box office.
 
This all presupposes that Thor, Captain America, and Iron Man all have significantly different audiences and that combining them will bring those audiences all together. I suspect that there is going to be significant overlap mostly involving male teenagers.

Frankly, I have a hard time believing that an Avengers movie will do substantially more than the most successful of the preceding films. Heck, if Captain America and Thor don't break out, it may be less successful with Robert Downey Jr. sharing screentime with characters that don't interest the general audience as much. The secret to Avatar, Titanic, and The Dark Knight is that they got more than teenage males to pay to see them. That's what the Avengers has to do to be historically big.
 
No. Not even close.
 
No way. Don't get me wrong I think it will do well but mainly because of the fans of the genre. I don't think it has a strong enough international market/demand to push it to Avatar numbers.

I'm from the Caribbean and I'm one of the 5 people in the world who has not seen Avatar as yet (yea yea you can laugh) but I did follow its success quite a bit and the conclusion I came to as to why it did so great is because it had 2 things going for it.

1. Never before seen technology
2. Ridiculously Insane Word of Mouth.

I very much doubt that Avengers would be able to boast that it has something the world has never seen; Even though it is able to boast that it is the first Cross Over Movie I think at best that would arouse curiosity, but I don't think it would arouse a "Must See" curiosity as Avatar did. (I'm speaking about for the general audience especially International, not geeks like us)

And as for Word of mouth. Although I suspect it would be really high, I think it would be loudest among the fan boys and again not the general public.

Really if you had ask me if I see it doing TDK numbers then I would agree I might even dare to say if done right it can beat TDK but not Avatar. Avatar is a freak of Box Office Nature which ever movie is to dethrone would have to be a movie that is equally a freak of Box Office Nature. HOWEVER... if I'm wrong and Avengers beat it then I would delightfully say I was wrong.
 
Honestly I don't see this movie getting near TDK's domestic gross either. After all we still don't know how Captain America or Thor will play out. All this talk is assumption. It's easy to assume that Cap and Thor will be as successful as Iron Man. When they could just as easily underperform like TIH.
 
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