The Dark Knight Can SR box office numbers influence on BB sequels?

[Cinemaman]

SR was great and excellent superhero movie, but it is making very low numbers, especially I cant imagine what will happen after POTC2 opening day

If it doesn't make more than $230m, can it influence on BB sequels?

I mean SR has $260m budget and as what we can expect from it, will flop.

The same happened with Poseidon. The only normal franchise, which makes very high numbers is Harry Potter. Batman is also not bad in box office.

Summer 2006 wasn't good for WB, so they can change something in marketing strategy or even stop making superhero movies.

What you think?

As for my mind, I dont want WB to stop making superhero movie blockbusters. But they should be smarter with marketing and release dates.

 

[StorminNorman]

No. Simple as that.

 

[DeFett]

I'm hoping SR will have legs like BB did last year.

POTC starts tonight so it will be interesting to see how much it will pull in over the weekend.

 

[kytrigger]

I don't see it affecting the Batman franchise except possibly the marketing strategy. The budget for SR was ridiculously high whether you take into account the past franchise costs or not. WB probably won't give BB the same amount of money taht they put into SR, but I don't think that NOlan wants/needs that much either.

The fact that building the Narrows was a pretty big chunk of the budget, and that they will most likely use that again (even with the problems of filming in England), actually means that the BB sequel will probably just be around the same amount that BB cost, or maybe just a bit more.

 

[Cinemaman]

Well, if BB2 makes more than $250m, then WB will be glad with this.

I think they will give Nolan to make BB2 $140m, what will be enough to make the movie on BB's level.

The marketing should be changed. Less promotion, but more teasing.

 

[Retroman]

Can SR box office numbers influence on BB sequels?

No, i don't think so. Warner has shown faith in Nolan's vision of Batman. Fans, critics and general audience seem to like it. The box office numbers were good(371,853,783) so why change it?

 

[boywonder13]

AHHHHHHH!!

Superman Returns isnt going to or isnt a flop!!!

Whatever happens to it it will not affect future comic book movies.
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241001

 

[xwolverine2]

batman is the DC icon.... he promises not to suck

 

[Jack Napier]

The fact that building the Narrows was a pretty big chunk of the budget, and that they will most likely use that again (even with the problems of filming in England), actually means that the BB sequel will probably just be around the same amount that BB cost, or maybe just a bit more.

Will that set still be intact though? Usually they disassemble sets when they're done with them, empty out the studio building they're using. Who knows though?

I don't think Superman is doing that bad. The media reports on the most heightened moments of reality, and if a movie isn't hitting every record out of the park, it's a complete failure. Saying it's a modest success or doing better than average isn't much of a story for a Superman movie, so spread the word that it's a "flop", and they sell some newspapers. If it doesn't make $1 more at the box office this weekend than Spider-Man 2 did, then something's gotta be wrong. I think that's ridiculous. I'm amazed when box office numbers are shattered so soon after each other (Harry Potter being bested by Spider-Man) but I don't expect every movie to out-do the one that opened a week before it. ****, wasn't X-Men 3 an impressive enough opening to cover the whole summer?

Frankly, I'm getting scared of the bar that's been set. If Superman opened to $130 million or so, that would mean that the next movie would have to top that. In doing that, advertising would have to be amped, and that alone is getting out of hand. Advertising for any movie or TV show has been pumped on steroids compared to 5 years ago. Do you ever watch the USA channel? You're trying to watch it, and out of the corner Kyra Sedgewick walks across the damn screen, shines a lightbulb, and a huge blurb that reads "THE CLOSER" appears. It's so distracting. Then when commercials come up, The Closer is guaranteed an additional 30 seconds of advertisement.

End rant.

 

[Jack Napier]

Speaking of advertising, do these bigwigs think that they're really rallying up their ideal demographic here with those AMERICAN PIE: BAND CAMP advertisements at the top of the screen? I'll deliberately not watch that *SHEEIT*, to illustrate how amped advertising doesn't mean we won't see through how crappy a product being sold really is.

Finally...END RANT.

 

[JokerNick]

why do people think Superman is a bust.......it made over 100 Million in it's first week of release!!!!!!! that is not a falure people....

 

[nogster]

its not a bust but cmon. its superman. the biggest name in superhero's. i was expecting monster numbers. at least comparable to spiderman 1 and 2.
batman begins did well but it lacked that massive marketing push esspecially here in australia. it was marketed terribly over here.
i doubt it will have the legs of BB. as it simply is a weaker film. it should of been AWESOME. its superman....returning. its a big event. but the script was silly and weak and that affected the overall storytelling/film making. BB on the other hand had a good fleshed out script and the story telling was impeccable. thats what gave it legs. after the initial excitement of seeing supes back on the big screen. the film will fade out. its not good enough a film IMO.
hey, i enjoyed it. but it wasnt as good as it should've been.

 

[Two-Face]

Damit! I still got to wait 8 days more.

 

[kytrigger]

Will that set still be intact though? Usually they disassemble sets when they're done with them, empty out the studio building they're using. Who knows though?

That part of the set is actually still up because all of the buildings were actually real. Each one was a few stories high. It must have been an amzing thing to see the set they made.

 

[Cinemaman]

Well if WB makes better smarter promotion with better marketing strategy, BB2 will become for BB something like X2 was fow X1, and that means better movie, more critical success and higher numbers.

 

[The Shape]

why do people think Superman is a bust.......it made over 100 Million in it's first week of release!!!!!!! that is not a falure people....

it's a bust because it was hyped to be like...the biggest movie ever. the promotion is insane, and the budget was WAY overboard. so while it seems like it's pulling in good numbers, it's really a bit of a letdown. especially now that POTC2 is coming in to break all kinds of records and steal SR's box office.

 

[explode7]

BB2 making 250M Domestic??? Don't make me laugh!!! The most it'll do is probably 210M tops. And remember Iron Man is comming out.

 

[Cinemaman]

BB2 making 250M Domestic??? Don't make me laugh!!! The most it'll do is probably 210M tops. And remember Iron Man is comming out.

IM will not make even $230m, this hero isn't so popular like Batman.

BB2 will be for BB something like X2 was for X1.

BB got good WOM and people will see sequel.

$250m as minimum.

P.S.

Spoiler

You are f***ing MARVEL FANBOY

 

[explode7]

Iron Man could and probably can pull a Fantastic Four. Which seemed to be pretty close to BB numbers.

 

[StorminNorman]

Will that set still be intact though? Usually they disassemble sets when they're done with them, empty out the studio building they're using. Who knows though?

Michael Caine said they are still up.

 

[Katsuro]

I'm sure they kept the sets up in preperation for the sequel. No use demolishing a set only to rebuild it 2 years later.

Another reason this sequel could be cheaper, less traveling. For BB they had to travel abroad to film the scene at Ra's al Ghul's temple. The next film should be only in Gotham, so it'll save them money.

 

[Cinemaman]

Well, I think WB should give Nolan $140m, what will be enough.

Besides, all storylines in sequel happens only in Gotham.

But also, they need better prmotion strategy.

I mean, they should start making better trailers. They should show more action, energy and dramatic scenes.

 

[DV8]

The SR budget wasn't really $260 mill . . . . it cost a lot in fuack ups, that is in failed reboots a la Nick Cage and Burton and Abrams, but the actual film was around $185 mill

That being said, I think that there's a problem with the moviegoer market in general . . . a lot of people can and will get a bootleg instead of seeing a film the way it's meant to be, with hella loud noise and mindbending effects on the BIG screen

Wouldn't you think that theater companies would invent some kind of new screen that scrambles the signal to bottlegging cameras? Kinda how when you try to watch a porno that isn't authorized, and you get just glimpses of the bj's and such . . . . wow; this post went waaaaaay off tangent

 

[Cinemaman]

The SR budget wasn't really $260 mil . . . . wait . . . was it!?

It was. And summer 2006 is not good time for WB. Both SR and Posseidon didn't make what they were expecting.

But SR is still making not bad box office.

 

[DV8]

^no, it wasn't that bad . . . . I modified my questionability . . . .