The Dark Knight Capes and Cowls - New Batsuit Discussion Thread

[MiniBond]

a batsuit is hiding in this pic dear batgeek, will you be able to find it ???t:

 

[capt. slaughter]

a batsuit is hiding in this pic dear batgeek, will you be able to find it ???t:

love the new batsuit, where was this taking at?

 

[bunk]

The batsuit looks very uncomfortable in that shot.

"So ladies, what are you all doing after the show?"

 

[MiniBond]

love the new batsuit, where was this taking at?

it's an expo, Superheroes: fashion and fantasy at the Metropolitan museum of new york !

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

a batsuit is hiding in this pic dear batgeek, will you be able to find it ???t:

See I absolutely LOVE how the suit looks when its in the darkness, I really hope thats how we'll see it alot in the film.

 

[the_monk]

You know what i mean right? He looked angry there, but in TDK the cowl looks like he is serious.

Your sig cracks me up.

"Your phone's ringing, dude"

"Thank you, Downey."

 

[Sandouras]

Your sig cracks me up.

"Your phone's ringing, dude"

"Thank you, Downey."

thanks man! you know, its a reference from that other movie Bridges was in. AWESOME quote!

I didnt get the reference of your quote though. Is it from another movie?

 

[the_monk]

thanks man! you know, its a reference from that other movie Bridges was in. AWESOME quote!

I didnt get the reference of your quote though. Is it from another movie?

I was referencing the same movie.

The original line is "Thank you, Donnie".

 

[MiniBond]

See I absolutely LOVE how the suit looks when its in the darkness, I really hope thats how we'll see it alot in the film.

yep...definitely !

 

[Superhobo]

a batsuit is hiding in this pic dear batgeek, will you be able to find it ???t:

At the back.

 

[nickyg641]

The batsuit definitely looks a lot better in shadow. Shadow seems to give it that sleek, jet-black look. In brighter light it looks clunky and all of the over-detailing can be seen.

See, look how good that picture is. Can't even see the Rand McNally on his legs.

 

[the_monk]

Come on, you guys. It looks cool in that shot.

 

[Superhobo]

Come on, you guys. It looks cool in that shot.

Sorry. Not feeling it, really.

 

[rashad]

Love the look of the cowl and suit on that magazine cover. I wonder if there are any more new Dark Knight pics inside the magazine.

 

[rashad]

This was posted in another thread.

 

[conan69]

"I can see some vader there too, the chest plate just irritates me though, there's no reason I can even think of, practical or otherwise to make it the same colour as the bat symbol, rendering it virtually redundant. not to mention the area between the neck & cowl is a total mess"

Well at least someone agrees with me.

 

[Ender Durden]

hahaha El Caballero de la Noche

thats just rich.

 

[SheldonLevene]

This was posted in another thread.

I might be alone in this, but I really like the look of the face structure, and how it leads into the beak.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

This was posted in another thread.

I like this ALOT!! The suit looks great here, for me it all has to do with the lighting and coloring of the suit and background he's in.

 

[Vastatio]

This was posted in another thread.

The gentleman of the evening? Sounds like a hooker.

 

[The Guard]

Why, every time we see Bale strike a ridiculous pose, does someone go "What a great shot"?

It boggles the mind.

As a newbie I appreciate you taking the time to discuss this with me. I am trying to solve the Mystery of the Dark Knight Leggings and you bring a lot to the table with your replies.

Oh no, I don't mean that you can't call me out on that because you have few posts...it's just that we've gone around and around on the "reasons" for this suit, and normally...ah, nevermind.

I understood your point just fine. I just wanted to underline the value of armor protection and it’s relationship to Batman’s survival in the Nolan Universe. With the “on-fire fall” from BB, his upper-body, (not his legs), takes most of the impact when he lands on the top of that car in the alley. Looks like the shielding provided by the Nomex torso did it’s job there. The BB suit didn’t have rigid armor sections on the legs and I wonder if the new segments on the DK suit might be a helpful upgrade?

The BB suit didn't really have "rigid armor" on any portion of the suit that was really all that thick other than the pecs. If you look closely though, he's got similar "molded padding" on the entire suit. The fact is, the BEGINS suit was described as a nomex survival suit. All of the torso, legs and arms are clearly meant to be this flexible, lightweight armor.

Yes, the BB suit provided protection, but maybe the DK suit provides even more? (Especially for the lower body). Why do you think that is stupid? Also, the new design might not only benefit Batman during a motorcycle crash. Here is another example: a knife fight. Would you rather have your leg stabbed with the armor or without it?

I guess I'd have to hope that my attacker didn't stab the mesh. I know, I know, it's probably supposed to be mesh armor...just like the non-mesh armor on the BEGINS suit....

And for all we know, the new DK suit might protect him from the type of fall mentioned above even BETTER than than the BB suit.

What does that even mean? How much better can your protection possibly be?

Again, look at football and other sports. Sports equipment definitely values ventilation. Look at hockey and football uniforms. Military equipment as well. Why invite painful and unhealthy skin and circulation problems that could inhibit athletic or combat performance when you CAN do something about it?

True, but when you think about it, sports equipment values ventilation, and people STILL sweat and are uncomfortable. I seriously doubt an actor wearing a Batsuit needs to worry about skin issues and circulation problems all that much. There are suits designed for combat, etc.

Well, here we almost agree. The arrangement and shapes of the slabs, or “puzzle pieces”, might have been designed into a more logical (and aesthetically pleasing?) final product…maybe by relating to actual muscle shapes and their placement. That would definitely be worth exploring.

Indeed.

Guard, I follow you with no difficulty. I understand your statement but then see real world examples that do not support it, (see above). Yes, I agree the heat felt from the waist up can be challenging, but that does not mean you just disregard everything below the belt. And it's not always about what you FEEL; you don't necessarily feel anything when you are first developing what will become a terrible rash...soldiers in the military are regularly having to deal with this and it can create serious problems that can hinder their performance.

What you feel and how it affects you, then. You can't honestly look at this suit and tell me that the fact that it's made of tightly worn mesh instead of tightly worn rubber is really going to make it that much "better" in terms of developing a rash, etc. He's going to be wearing something underneath that mesh almost for certain.

Actually, that is one design element that never changes: Batman’s muzzle is always exposed, so yes he can be shot in the mouth, (even in that perfect batsuit that must inhabit your imagination).

It was a joke. You know, because he's standing there looking very non-dynamic.

His head is tipped forward with that unflinching glare which always gives Batman a strength to his expression…this is true in the comics as well. The layering of mesh and armor look impenetrable but flexible…it is dense and heavily textured, which is a complaint for some, but I like that it displays a design sensibility we have seen in other Wayne Tech creations like the Tumbler and the Batpod. And if I was a criminal, and I saw all that protective shielding, I might just choose to RUN, (instead of pulling a weapon).

Which picture are you referring to?

I'd shoot him in the mouth. Since he's just sort of...standing there.

Unflinching glare? That's Bale standing there in the suit. I mean, if that's his "unflinching glare", we're in trouble.

The lighting here shows more of the cowl’s detailing which gives Batman a feral and animalistic presence. Based on that picture, I wouldn’t want to fight him. Would you?

A visual design doesn't make one appear formidable (it makes one appear angrier, perhaps) One's presence does. He is displaying little to no presence in either photo in those poses. He's just "posing" to show off his suit.

Are you seriously asking me if I'd want to fight Batman?

Guard, just out of curiousity, who are some of the comic artists that have drawn batsuits you would particularly like to see influencing a Batman movie suit? It may surprise you after all my posts, but I agree with many people on the boards that we are yet to see the “Grail” of Batman movie suits.

I don't think any of the comic book artists have ever drawn a suit that I'd want to see on film. I like elements of Lee Bermejo's suits, as he gives them a feeling of "weight" without overdesigning them, but the colors and so forth...nah.

Did any of you stop to think that the sectional armor is to increase his range of motion? Most of you seems to want his comic book moves with an armored suit of some kind. Well, if the armor is solid, you limit your range of motion and can't do certain things, like turn your head. The suit was made for function, not fashion.

We've thought about that. Especially on his legs, most of those "joints" and breakages just are not all that relevant to the motion of those parts of the human body. The leg and thigh doesn't bend in those areas. Nor does it really need to flex all that much, considering.

 

[Kaizer]

This is a movie...it's designed to look good in this particular movie, in the particular lighting and color-schemes designed for this movie.... if it looks bad in situations outside of the movie it doesn't matter, because what it comes down to in the end is that it is, by all good intentions designed to look good in the movie......movie movie movie

 

[TheBat812]

This is a movie...it's designed to look good in this particular movie, in the particular lighting and color-schemes designed for this movie.... if it looks bad in situations outside of the movie it doesn't matter, because what it comes down to in the end is that it is, by all good intentions designed to look good in the movie......movie movie movie

amen to that, brother. To critique it for anything but what you get on screen is preposterous because that's the only way it's meant to be seen.

 

[nickyg641]

amen to that, brother. To critique it for anything but what you get on screen is preposterous because that's the only way it's meant to be seen.

We've seen pictures of it in the context of the film, and it still looks off.

 

[Leon the Professional]

Why, every time we see Bale strike a ridiculous pose, does someone go "What a great shot"?

It boggles the mind.

Why, every time we see a new photo of the TDK Batsuit, does Guard go "What horrendously busy legs" (or something along those lines)?

This too boggles the mind.