The Dark Knight Capes and Cowls - New Batsuit Discussion Thread

[phil]

It's a shame this awesome movie has a pathetic Batman suit like this. I can't understand it for the life of me? They have gone downhill since 1989??

 

[Kaizer104]

It's a shame this awesome movie has a pathetic Batman suit like this. I can't understand it for the life of me? They have gone downhill since 1989??

I can't say I agree.. I've actually liked the batsuits from the "Nolan-verse" the most out of all the batsuits I've seen. I especially like the detail in this one.

 

[phil]

I thought the 89 suit was great even though it was different. But to me each movie it went even more downhill.
I hate the fact that we have this awesome looking Joker but with a plastic looking cheap version of Robocop from over ten years ago for Batman. I feel like we are wasting the most worthy actor for Batman.

 

[capt. slaughter]

i dont see robocop in the new batsuit, not even when im high

 

[TNC9852002]

lol. Out of all of the suits, this suit is the LEAST plastic looking to me, phil.

-TNC

 

[phil]

wow, I guess were just seeing different things.

 

[Borat]

Less Robocop comparisons and more Metal Gear comparisons! I'm posting this again.

 

[MAKIEVELLI]

I would actually like to see Batman shot just once just to see how sturdy the armor is. I am definitely a fan of a bulletproof Batman and I think anyone who wants to see him wearing latex in a live action movie is nuts.

 

[wolfboy]

Suit looks great. Something a billionaire could make and something that Batman would wear.

 

[Aidan2209]

I would actually like to see Batman shot just once just to see how sturdy the armor is. I am definitely a fan of a bulletproof Batman and I think anyone who wants to see him wearing latex in a live action movie is nuts.

I'd have to agree. Latex and fabric would belong in a more "cartoony" film, for lack of a better word, and I was expecting this to be the route the Justice League film was going to take. I have no problems with that project totally bombing.

 

[C. Lee]

I would actually like to see Batman shot just once just to see how sturdy the armor is. I am definitely a fan of a bulletproof Batman and I think anyone who wants to see him wearing latex in a live action movie is nuts.

The thing is.....this is a science fiction/fantasy/comic book film. Why not have a suit that looks like the comics (non metallic/plastic/rubbery looking material) and say that is made of a new highly flexible bulletproof type material?

 

[batman_1982]

The thing is.....this is a science fiction/fantasy/comic book film. Why not have a suit that looks like the comics (non metallic/plastic/rubbery looking material) and say that is made of a new highly flexible bulletproof type material?

It's funny you should mention that. I was watching a show on the Discovery Channel a few months ago, and they were testing the durability of the material they use in lining the rear cab of a truck. They made a piece of the material which looked like rubber but not as flexible. They put it through extreme tests like fire, and even shot at it with a rifle. The material did withstand the fire and it did stop the bullet surprisingly. So that idea isn't totally far fetched.

 

[C. Lee]

It's funny you should mention that. I was watching a show on the Discovery Channel a few months ago, and they were testing the durability of the material they use in lining the rear cab of a truck. They made a piece of the material which looked like rubber but not as flexible. They put it through extreme tests like fire, and even shot at it with a rifle. The material did withstand the fire and it did stop the bullet surprisingly. So that idea isn't totally far fetched.

That's interesting....but I'm saying it doesn't even really have to exist. This is a movie....just act like it is real.

 

[phil]

It's funny you should mention that. I was watching a show on the Discovery Channel a few months ago, and they were testing the durability of the material they use in lining the rear cab of a truck. They made a piece of the material which looked like rubber but not as flexible. They put it through extreme tests like fire, and even shot at it with a rifle. The material did withstand the fire and it did stop the bullet surprisingly. So that idea isn't totally far fetched.

On Myth Busters they were trying to make a gun to shoot a cable and realistically lift someone like Batman does and couldn't do it. Where do we draw the line with Superhero's? Just the costume or everything?

I'm just glad that Nolan's stories and acting within his movies stand on their own. I just think this Batman would be on another level like Spiderman with a better look like the comics.

 

[zmystico]

movies are infamous for creating technology that doesn't exists...like holographic CAD programs in Iron Man, or repulsors, or bridging vehicles the throttle up to a rampless jump. Nolan could have Wayne Enterprises create a new but ridiculously expensive flexible bullet-proof material. Heck they even make memory cloth.

 

[batman_1982]

On Myth Busters they were trying to make a gun to shoot a cable and realistically lift someone like Batman does and couldn't do it. Where do we draw the line with Superhero's? Just the costume or everything?

I'm just glad that Nolan's stories and acting within his movies stand on their own. I just think this Batman would be on another level like Spiderman with a better look like the comics.

The one thing batman suffers from is having had several different interpretations of his suit throught the batman movies, tv shows and comics. There isn't one deffinative look that people can agree on. Spiderman's suit like you mentioned has pretty much had the same design since it's conception.

 

[phil]

I agree 100%, all the more reason why they CAN show a faithful looking Batman.

 

[phil]

The one thing batman suffers from is having had several different interpretations of his suit throught the batman movies, tv shows and comics. There isn't one deffinative look that people can agree on. Spiderman's suit like you mentioned has pretty much had the same design since it's conception.

I see you point, but I think there is a suit most common to the GP.

 

[batman_1982]

On Myth Busters they were trying to make a gun to shoot a cable and realistically lift someone like Batman does and couldn't do it. Where do we draw the line with Superhero's? Just the costume or everything?

I'm just glad that Nolan's stories and acting within his movies stand on their own. I just think this Batman would be on another level like Spiderman with a better look like the comics.

Unlike spiderman though, what batman suffers from is having had several different interpretations of his suit throught the batman movies, tv shows and comics. There isn't one deffinative look that people can unanimously agree on which is what creates some of the debate. Some people like the dark latex suit, and some would prefer the grey fabric suit and black trunks like the comics. Spiderman's suit has pretty much had the same costume design since it's conception.

 

[Ammo]

The thing is.....this is a science fiction/fantasy/comic book film. Why not have a suit that looks like the comics (non metallic/plastic/rubbery looking material) and say that is made of a new highly flexible bulletproof type material?

I think it'd be difficult to pull off, especially in this kind of film.

But then again, I love the whole "plausible" Batman in this series...feels like less of a comic book movie and more of a gritty crime movie. I think it has more mass appeal.

I think of Batman as a film/animation franchise before comics, to be quite honest. I hate all the tie-ins with the rest of the superheroes (it just doesn't make sense to me how a human with no superpowers can run with those with superpowers).

I wish every superhero series lived in their own separate universes.

 

[phil]

Yes, but before the movies the GP never saw plastic/rubber with no head movement. I tried to draw an updated suit with fabrics to satisfy fans using fabric with a little armor but every time I look at it it's still not Batman. But I do think it showed that fabric is the way to go especially for head movement.

 

[C. Lee]

I think it'd be difficult to pull off, especially in this kind of film.

But then again, I love the whole "plausible" Batman in this series...feels like less of a comic book movie and more of a gritty crime movie. I think it has more mass appeal because face it, comics are a limited audience.

I like the "plausible" aspects too....but "plausible" doesn't have to mean 100% scientificly factual....it means "Yeah, I can see that happening."

 

[phil]

Fabrics the way to go. The general public can buy action heros in the movies all the time and they don't have head protection, cool gadgets and a billion dollars to help them fight crime.
Here's my drawing before I start the background. The image itself is only half done, it will look very realistic when I'm done especially when the background is in. I think then seeing the fabric suit in that setting will show that it's very possible to make a cool looking Batman with fabric. Even if it's not this particular style it can very much be done with today's technology and fabrics along with shading and airbrushing. I'll post this again when I'm done.

Here it, just change it to classic colors and it would look awesome on film. I don't think there is any need for rubber.

 

[batman_1982]

Here it, just change it to classic colors and it would look awesome on film. I don't think there is any need for rubber.

I gotta say that is incredible! Great work!

My theory on why we always end up seeing the rubber suit as opposed to a fabric suit is because the rubber suits help give the actors underneath a more impressive looking physique. Case in point would be Michael Keaton. It would make it very tough for the general public to buy in to the fact that michael keaton at 5' 10" and 190 lbs. could be running around gotham in a fabric batsuit dodging bullets, knives, getting into physical fights with some of the toughest looking thugs. Also it's probably harder to find very well built actors that could look like batman in a fabric suit like in the picture you created. Christian Bale is probably the most well built live action batman we've had, but I don't think even he would look that physically impressive or imposing in a fabric suit. What I really think makes it work for heros like spiderman in the fabric suit is the fact they have superpowers which allows people to buy into what they can do even in a fabric costume.

 

[phil]

I gotta say that is incredible! Great work!

My theory on why we always end up seeing the rubber suit as opposed to a fabric suit is because the rubber suits help give the actors underneath a more impressive looking physique. Case in point would be Michael Keaton. It would make it very tough for the general public to buy in to the fact that michael keaton at 5' 10" and 190 lbs. could be running around gotham in a fabric batsuit dodging bullets, knives, getting into physical fights with some of the toughest looking thugs. Also it's probably harder to find very well built actors that could look like batman in a fabric suit like in the picture you created. Christian Bale is probably the most well built live action batman we've had, but I don't think even he would look that physically impressive or imposing in a fabric suit. What I really think makes it work for heros like spiderman in the fabric suit is the fact they have superpowers which allows people to buy into what they can do even in a fabric costume.

I agree with the wimpier actors but I think Bale could pull it off with his body. If pro athletes can still look shredded in their undershirts he can too. And if Fox can make a fabric take any shape and allow a man to fly then why can't he make a bullet proof fabric even though a sniper could take him out on any given night by aiming for the face no matter what type of suit, lol